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Best floorstanders under $2K

Just curious about getting a variety of opinions on the topic. I’ll toss a vote out there for the Revel F36. Just ordered a set, not second guessing but interested to see what folks think on this topic. Thanks in advance for your input!


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I think the F36 will be tough to beat at the price but a cheaper option that should sound very good are the Chane A5 towers or the Emotiva equivalent, it might be worth trying a set to see if the extra money is worth it.
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Best floorstanders under $2K

Thanks for weighing in Aaron. I suppose I should list what I feel are the strengths of the F36, the things that swayed me towards choosing them

1). 91 dB sensitivity along with 200 watts power handling. This should make them very capable for home theater
2) Spinorama data available. I know without a doubt what I am getting.
3). Beautiful piano gloss black finish...they are going in my living room
4). Love love love the look of the front baffle. Soooo clean looking. Better than Revels higher tier products imo.
5) All three 6.5” drivers provide output below 600 Hz for more surface area than even a 10” driver.
6) wide dispersion design with very good spins for, hopefully, very very good music reproduction.


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Thanks for weighing in Aaron. I suppose I should list what I feel are the strengths of the F36, the things that swayed me towards choosing them

2) Spinorama data available. I know without a doubt what I am getting.
Can't argue with that, more of us should start demanding better measurements.
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Just curious about getting a variety of opinions on the topic. I’ll toss a vote out there for the Revel F36. Just ordered a set, not second guessing but interested to see what folks think on this topic. Thanks in advance for your input!


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F36's are gonna be hard to beat.

I'm debating between F36's and Q950's for a second room but unfortunately the nearby KEF dealer only brings in LS50's. It wouldn't surprise me if the F36's are superior though, hopefully one day i'll be able to a/b them.

I was completely blown away by the concerta2 M16's and F36's.
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Did you pair the F36s with Revel's C25?
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I run some Revel F35s and have used the M16s as well so am squarely on that train, but their retail price is definitely up there at the top end of this particular threshold. If we're talking performance/price ratio I'm very impressed with my Emotiva C2 and assuming that the T1s and T2s perform the same way those are major values. I've also been pretty pleased with the Paradigm 700F and 800Fs I've heard though those are also near the Revel pricepoints.
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psb xt2 sound good...in this price range the spl and sound is limited imo.
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F36's are gonna be hard to beat.

I'm debating between F36's and Q950's for a second room but unfortunately the nearby KEF dealer only brings in LS50's. It wouldn't surprise me if the F36's are superior though, hopefully one day i'll be able to a/b them.

I was completely blown away by the concerta2 M16's and F36's.
I considered KEF but my other half didn't care for how they looked. Glad to hear you liked how the F36's sounded. Where did you hear them? Were they crossed to subs?
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Did you pair the F36s with Revel's C25?
I did. I'm a little concerned with the C25 being able to keep up for home theater, but I love the aesthetic match and hoping the sound quality match it will give for musical performance in multichannel will pay off. The spin for the C25 looks quite excellent for an MTM center channel.

If not, my backup plan is to upgrade to the new JBL HDI center channel down the road someday if the specs and measurements pan out. But that would be a ways out...I'll probably consider an external amp as my next upgrade after these speakers.
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psb xt2 sound good...in this price range the spl and sound is limited imo.
You mean in general or for the PSB? SPL/capability was/is a concern for me as well. In this regard, I like that the F36 has 91 dB sensitivity and the cone area of dual 8" woofer towers. Or more cone area than a single 10" woofer.

When you say sound is limited, do you mean output or sound quality?
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You mean in general or for the PSB? SPL/capability was/is a concern for me as well. In this regard, I like that the F36 has 91 dB sensitivity and the cone area of dual 8" woofer towers. Or more cone area than a single 10" woofer.

When you say sound is limited, do you mean output or sound quality?
last I heard f36 or f35 was 4 yrs ago or so. they sound great. just didnt get that loud with a marantz avr back then. maybe it was dealer not pushing em...revel/psb/focal were my top picks when auditioning. psb was darkest, focal had some "it" and revel was in middle.
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NHT speakers are on sale. The C4 floor stander is $1k each. Hard to beat.
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Paradigm Premier 800F might be a contender at $2k. Measurements look good.
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Salk Songtower has always been a 2k choice. Though with shipping may just cross the line
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I considered KEF but my other half didn't care for how they looked. Glad to hear you liked how the F36's sounded. Where did you hear them? Were they crossed to subs?



full range, powered by what looked to be a very expensive front end. Medium sized room and they had no problem filling to room with authority.


what impressed me the most with revel it just how MASSIVE the soundstage is. I've never heard anything like it, not even remotely close at this price range.


I originally A/B'd the M16 vs LS50's, they both had their pro's and con's but i'll go as far to saying the M16 soundstage was BIGGER than the Klipsch RP6000F and Monitor Audio Silver 200 TOWERS they had setup next to them. The KEF did have sharper more precises imaging but the Revels soundstage is something you could marvel at for hours!

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full range, powered by what looked to be a very expensive front end. Medium sized room and they had no problem filling to room with authority.


what impressed me the most with revel it just how MASSIVE the soundstage is. I've never heard anything like it, not even remotely close at this price range.


I originally A/B'd the M16 vs LS50's, they both had their pro's and con's but i'll go as far to saying the M16 soundstage was BIGGER than the Klipsch RP6000F and Monitor Audio Silver 200 TOWERS they had setup next to them. The KEF did have sharper more precises imaging but the Revels soundstage is something you could marvel at for hours!

Thanks for your feedback. One of the main things I hope to achieve is to have the speakers disappear. I don’t want to be able to point to the speaker and say all the sound is coming from there.


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Thanks for your feedback. One of the main things I hope to achieve is to have the speakers disappear. I don’t want to be able to point to the speaker and say all the sound is coming from there.


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well you'll get that in spades! In my experience anyways

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The new Klipsch rf-7 mk3's might be the best speakers for the money on the market right now

FRYS.COM has these speakers for 40% off sometimes so watch for their sales

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The new Klipsch rf-7 mk3's might be the best speakers for the money on the market right now

I would personally take Revel Performa3 F208/KEF R11/Focal Aria 936/Paradigm Prestige 95F before Klipsch rf-7 mk3.

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I know of a person that will ship his GoldenEar T5 for $1400 ($2200 MSRP)

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Hard to beat that but maybe the 90db sensitivity Monitor Audio Silver 300s as the Silver 200s measured quite well.

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I would personally take Revel Performa3 F208/KEF R11/Focal Aria 936/Paradigm Prestige 95F before Klipsch rf-7 mk3.
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I'm a dealer of 3 out of those 5 (Revel, Klipsch, KEF) and think that, depending on what you're doing with them and the room they're going into, the RF& III is an outstanding option.

For example, at low to upper medium volumes or full throttle in a large room, correct electronics, genres, and a proper setup in a room I think that speaker is nearly unbeatable for anywhere near it's price point. In a large space or larger recordings the scale, size, and impact the RF7 III presents isn't going to be touched by Performa3 or R Series. There are other instances where I wouldn't touch it, so, as with any speaker discussion.... there are variables at play.
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I'm a dealer of 3 out of those 5 (Revel, Klipsch, KEF) and think that, depending on what you're doing with them and the room they're going into, the RF& III is an outstanding option.
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I would personally take Revel Performa3 F208/KEF R11/Focal Aria 936/Paradigm Prestige 95F before Klipsch rf-7 mk3.
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The new Klipsch rf-7 mk3's might be the best speakers for the money on the market right now[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]

FRYS.COM has these speakers for 40% off sometimes so watch for their sales[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
I'm a dealer of 3 out of those 5 (Revel, Klipsch, KEF) and think that, depending on what you're doing with them and the room they're going into, the RF& III is an outstanding option.

For example, at low to upper medium volumes or full throttle in a large room, correct electronics, genres, and a proper setup in a room I think that speaker is nearly unbeatable for anywhere near it's price point. In a large space or larger recordings the scale, size, and impact the RF7 III presents isn't going to be touched by Performa3 or R Series. There are other instances where I wouldn't touch it, so, as with any speaker discussion.... there are variables at play.
I wasn't impressed by the klispch but dynamics are at the bottom of my priorities.

Soundstage depth, pin point imaging and off axis response is what I lean towards.

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As to the OP's question...

Some really high value, higher performing floor standing loudspeakers for under $2,000, in no particular order.....

- Revel F36 $2,000/pair
- Klipsch RP-8000 $1,378/pair
- Monitor Audio Silver 8 (barely makes it, IMO, but a really great sounding speaker) $2,000/pair
- KLH Kendall $1,300/pair

There are some other options just above $2k MSRP from Golden Ear& Martin Logan, but I think the F36 is a better all around speaker in most respects. The GE stuff has powered subwoofers and are basically a sub/sat system in a single housing. I would think a pair of Revel M16 or RP600 and 2 subs would be a killer under $2k setup as well if going that route.
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There isn't a room or fancy gear around that is going to fix this mess:

I love to read about this stuff. Could you post a link or PM me a link to that so I can read and learn more? Just a graph grab doesn't do a ton for me, but I would enjoy the article if there's one to it?
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I wasn't impressed by the klispch but dynamics are at the bottom of my priorities.

Soundstage depth, pin point imaging and off axis response is what I lean towards.
And you have the KEF Q series to accomplish all of that? We all like or value different things, that's for sure. That's what makes this hobby so much fun! Personally, I don't care for most of the KEF Q series, and I'm a KEF dealer! That doesn't mean they don't have good traits or features - they definitely have the off axis response covered with Uni-Q, which is an outstanding technology. I just think it's fun that everyone likes different stuff.

The nicer (non-THX) KEF architectural product is all voiced like Q series and is a really strong line of product. I just don't think that the Q series in-room stuff holds up to Klipsch RP or Revel Concerta2. I just think they're were too technical or clinical to me. Very polite. However, some people love that. When turned up, some Klipsch can melt faces, and be brutal. I tend to not listen THAT loudly, but everyone uses their gear differently.
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I love to read about this stuff. Could you post a link or PM me a link to that so I can read and learn more? Just a graph grab doesn't do a ton for me, but I would enjoy the article if there's one to it?
If the on-axis is that bad, nothing else really matters in my opinion. I got the graph from this review: https://www.henleyaudio.co.uk/shop/p...&ProductId=937
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