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Help me build a 5.1.4 Atmos setup

[Disclaimer: The focus is on Klipsch here because that's all I've looked at so far. Open to other recommendations as well. Also not very knowledgeable on HT speaker systems, so having a hard time differentiating excellent from mediocre equipment.]

Originally wanted a full-fledged flagship floorstanding setup (4x RF-7 III, 1x RC-64 III, 4x RP-500SA, 1x SPL-150SW) but the total cost compelled me to reconsider. So I'm considering bookshelves instead of floorstanders (or cheaper floorstanders) to bring the cost down without sacrificing too much in terms of audio quality. To provide some context, the setup is intended for a 10' by 10' room for movies and gaming on a PC and a PS4 Pro with an LG C9 as a screen.

Is there a Klipsch speaker, floorstander or otherwise, that has the same audio quality as the RF-7 III but doesn't cost as much?

I think I'm fine with the RP-500SA and SPL-150SW for Atmos and the sub. Please recommend front, surround and centre speakers that would best fit my needs. Ideally with as little compromise on the audio quality as possible, without breaking into the RF-7 III price range.

Also need recommendations on an AVR (220-240V), and any other accessories (cables and such) that I might need for the system.

Thank you!
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With JBL and Emotiva often going on sale up to 50% off, you should add them to your research list.
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[Disclaimer: The focus is on Klipsch here because that's all I've looked at so far. Open to other recommendations as well. Also not very knowledgeable on HT speaker systems, so having a hard time differentiating excellent from mediocre equipment.]

Originally wanted a full-fledged flagship floorstanding setup (4x RF-7 III, 1x RC-64 III, 4x RP-500SA, 1x SPL-150SW) but the total cost compelled me to reconsider. So I'm considering bookshelves instead of floorstanders (or cheaper floorstanders) to bring the cost down without sacrificing too much in terms of audio quality. To provide some context, the setup is intended for a 10' by 10' room for movies and gaming on a PC and a PS4 Pro with an LG C9 as a screen.

Is there a Klipsch speaker, floorstander or otherwise, that has the same audio quality as the RF-7 III but doesn't cost as much?

I think I'm fine with the RP-500SA and SPL-150SW for Atmos and the sub. Please recommend front, surround and centre speakers that would best fit my needs. Ideally with as little compromise on the audio quality as possible, without breaking into the RF-7 III price range.

Also need recommendations on an AVR (220-240V), and any other accessories (cables and such) that I might need for the system.

Thank you!
not much comes to mind for cost over the rf7III maybe rf7II would be less. Before you think the speakers you want are too much give sound distrubters a call and ask for a quote. You may be surprised.

I have a klipsch setup btw and use 5800cII for atmos x4. Older bi poles and bookshelves for surrounds similar to the RP line All Titanium CD.

The big difference on the rf line is the Compression driver is much nicer than the rest of the line. Clearer cleaner more dynamic and even more efficient. I wouldnt say it has way more bass or low end as your going to be running subs. And dont bother buying a klipsch sub. Something from SVS or Powersound audio is far superior for less money.

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Where can I avail the best prices? Which stores would you recommend I check? Any online store is fine.
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Where can I avail the best prices? Which stores would you recommend I check? Any online store is fine.
we cant talk price on here. You can PM if you like. Get some more posts first.

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we cant talk price on here. You can PM if you like. Get some more posts first.
My bad. Would it be a breach of T&C if you just named the stores? I can look up the prices myself.
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Power Sound Audio would be a good place to start.

https://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/speakers

If you wanted to try a different route the Polk flagship line is on sale. The LSiM 705 floorstanders are very good. Pair with 703's or 703F/X for rears and 706C for center.

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Tentative setup: 1x RC-504c, 4x RP-600Ms, 4x RP-500SA, 1x SPL-150SW, 1x Denon X3600H

1. Would you recommend the 600C instead?
2. Is there a cheaper alternative to the X3600H that would serve the purpose equally well?

Thank you.
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Power Sound Audio would be a good place to start.

https://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/speakers

If you wanted to try a different route the Polk flagship line is on sale. The LSiM 705 floorstanders are very good. Pair with 703's or 703F/X for rears and 706C for center.

705 - only Cherry available
https://www.adorama.com/pkalsm705mv2...ce=rflaid62905

703 Cherry or Black
https://www.adorama.com/pklsm703mvc2...ce=rflaid62905
https://www.adorama.com/pklsim703b2....ce=rflaid62905

702F/X
https://www.adorama.com/pkalsim702.h...ce=rflaid62905

706C center - only Cherry available
https://www.adorama.com/pkalsim706cc...ce=rflaid62905


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If you like how klipsch sound you most likely will not like how the polks sound as I personally dont care for them. The Klipsch are more dynamic and efficient. Best pricing is never listed on sites you need to call the dealer.

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Well, I haven't heard any of these systems, and I don't have the option to demo anything, so it's going to be a blind purchase anyway. With the popularity of Klipsch, I assumed they would at least be a good enough option.

Apparently Klipsch subs have a bad reputation. Which sub should I get around the $1000 price point that would complement the rest of my setup?
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Well, I haven't heard any of these systems, and I don't have the option to demo anything, so it's going to be a blind purchase anyway. With the popularity of Klipsch, I assumed they would at least be a good enough option.

Apparently Klipsch subs have a bad reputation. Which sub should I get around the $1000 price point that would complement the rest of my setup?
Power Sound Audio would be a step up from Klipsch but the speakers are bigger and maybe a bit more expensive than your latest list of Klipsch speakers. I would call Tom V. at Power Sound Audio and see if you can get a deal on a nice package with sub.

For sub PowerSoundAudio, HSU or Rythmik are both very well regarded and have nice 15" subs in that price range.

https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/v1512df
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-15hmk2.html
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Power Sound Audio would be a step up from Klipsch but the speakers are bigger and maybe a bit more expensive than your latest list of Klipsch speakers. I would call Tom V. at Power Sound Audio and see if you can get a deal on a nice package with sub.

For sub PowerSoundAudio, HSU or Rythmik are both very well regarded and have nice 15" subs in that price range.

https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/v1512df
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-15hmk2.html
Thank you! I'll look into PSA.

Just out of curiosity, what is considered the ultimate highest-end premium brand for home theater audio?
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Tentative setup: 1x RC-504c, 4x RP-600Ms, 4x RP-500SA, 1x SPL-150SW, 1x Denon X3600H

1. Would you recommend the 600C instead?
2. Is there a cheaper alternative to the X3600H that would serve the purpose equally well?

Thank you.
Since you are planning on four 600Ms for the base layer, I would definitely recommend the 600C for the center. When the speakers in the bed layer match all around, there should be no worries with timbre matching.


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Thank you! I'll look into PSA.

Just out of curiosity, what is considered the ultimate highest-end premium brand for home theater audio?
You are going to get wildly varying answers to that question.
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Since you are planning on four 600Ms for the base layer, I would definitely recommend the 600C for the center. When the speakers in the bed layer match all around, there should be no worries with timbre matching.




You are going to get wildly varying answers to that question.
Does timbre matching outweigh the advantages the 504C has over the 600C?

And a man needs a name! The most expensive pair I've come across is this one: https://us.kef.com/speakers/flagship.../kef-muon.html

And I thought the Sennheiser Orpheus was expensive!
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JTR are considered one of the best for pure Home Theater but actually some DIY designs that cost less can be as good.

http://jtrspeakers.com/

DIY Sound Group website.
https://www.diysoundgroup.com/home-t...aker-kits.html

AVS DIY Forum
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/

Thread comparing high end HT speakers.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...omparison.html
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Does timbre matching outweigh the advantages the 504C has over the 600C?
You are probably right, the 504C would also be an excellent choice. Might want to ask opinions in the Klipsch owners thread though...


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And I thought the Sennheiser Orpheus was expensive!
"Most expensive" does not equal "best".
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the setup is intended for a 10' by 10' room for movies and gaming on a PC and a PS4 Pro with an LG C9 as a screen.
Wow, in such a small space those big Klipsch towers would be completely wasted and possibly cause internal damage if cranked up high.

In all seriousness, if all you're doing is movies and gaming, best way to go would be to get 5 identical bookshelves on stands with a good sub.

For example:
5 x Ascend 170SE or 200SE would run you under $800 shipped:
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages.../spkrlist.html

Add a good medium sized $600 sub like a Hsu VTF-2 or Rythmik LV-12F and you're set.
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Does timbre matching outweigh the advantages the 504C has over the 600C?

And a man needs a name! The most expensive pair I've come across is this one: https://us.kef.com/speakers/flagship.../kef-muon.html

And I thought the Sennheiser Orpheus was expensive!
I don't know about superlatives, but:

https://www.focal.com/en/home-audio/...-utopia-em-evo

$120k each (rather than $225k the pair).
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not much comes to mind for cost over the rf7III maybe rf7II would be less. Before you think the speakers you want are too much give sound distrubters a call and ask for a quote. You may be surprised.

I have a klipsch setup btw and use 5800cII for atmos x4. Older bi poles and bookshelves for surrounds similar to the RP line All Titanium CD.

The big difference on the rf line is the Compression driver is much nicer than the rest of the line. Clearer cleaner more dynamic and even more efficient. I wouldnt say it has way more bass or low end as your going to be running subs. And dont bother buying a klipsch sub. Something from SVS or Powersound audio is far superior for less money.
The RP/RF (excluding 7 series) line do not have compression drivers. They use a linear travel "s" something titanium tweeter- " LTS Vented Tweeter "

Only the heritage line including the RF7 series use compression drivers.

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[Disclaimer: The focus is on Klipsch here because that's all I've looked at so far. Open to other recommendations as well. Also not very knowledgeable on HT speaker systems, so having a hard time differentiating excellent from mediocre equipment.]

Originally wanted a full-fledged flagship floorstanding setup (4x RF-7 III, 1x RC-64 III, 4x RP-500SA, 1x SPL-150SW) but the total cost compelled me to reconsider. So I'm considering bookshelves instead of floorstanders (or cheaper floorstanders) to bring the cost down without sacrificing too much in terms of audio quality. To provide some context, the setup is intended for a 10' by 10' room for movies and gaming on a PC and a PS4 Pro with an LG C9 as a screen.

Is there a Klipsch speaker, floorstander or otherwise, that has the same audio quality as the RF-7 III but doesn't cost as much?

I think I'm fine with the RP-500SA and SPL-150SW for Atmos and the sub. Please recommend front, surround and centre speakers that would best fit my needs. Ideally with as little compromise on the audio quality as possible, without breaking into the RF-7 III price range.

Also need recommendations on an AVR (220-240V), and any other accessories (cables and such) that I might need for the system.

Thank you!
PSA MTM 210Ts are like $700 or so less than the Klipsch RF7s

I HIGHLY encourage you to give the PSA speakers a try. I just bought 2 PSA MTM210ts and 1 MTM210C. These things are monsters. They are absolutely fantastic for home theater use and there is zero ear fatigue. I crank these things and never get fatigue.

I would go with whatever PSA speakers you can fit/afford and go with dual SVS or PSA subs you can fit/afford and call it a day. You will not regret it. Trust me.

Any mid level AVR will power these things to levels beyond what you can take and the speakers will remain crystal clear with 0% distortion. I like Denon because I've never had a problem with them. I would get the cheapest Denon AVR that has Audyssey Mult EQ XT32 and SUB EQHT to EQ your dual subwoofers separately. Monoprice 14 or 12 gauge speaker wire, banana plugs (any will do I use Monster), and 2 SVS soundpath subwoofer interconnect cables and you will be good to go.

Good luck!
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Thank you everyone for your responses! (Where is that +REP button?)

Currently facing a different issue altogether. This is my room layout: https://imgur.com/a/pfEZoov

As you can see that the right rear speaker is supposed to be exactly where my door is. How can I circumvent this issue and still maintain correct speaker placement?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

EDIT:
I have since been made aware that that is indeed the wrong placement for 5.1.4. So that issue has been resolved.

Where exactly am I supposed to place the 4 Atmos speakers? On the ceiling or on the walls at an elevated height parallel to the other four speakers?

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On or in ceiling is best for atmos.
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You are probably right, the 504C would also be an excellent choice. Might want to ask opinions in the Klipsch owners thread though...




"Most expensive" does not equal "best".
No arguments there.
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Wow, in such a small space those big Klipsch towers would be completely wasted and possibly cause internal damage if cranked up high.

In all seriousness, if all you're doing is movies and gaming, best way to go would be to get 5 identical bookshelves on stands with a good sub.

For example:
5 x Ascend 170SE or 200SE would run you under $800 shipped:
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages.../spkrlist.html

Add a good medium sized $600 sub like a Hsu VTF-2 or Rythmik LV-12F and you're set.
Going with bookshelves, actually. Now only if I could find bookshelf speakers that produce the same quality of sound as their flagship floorstanding counterparts.

Actually planning on 4 identical bookshelves, 4 identical Atmos, a dedicated centre and a dedicated sub.

I'm curious as to why certain brands have speakers that cost the same as an entire system of another brand, and whether I would notice the increase in sound quality by going for a higher budget system. There isn't even a ranking for all the brands/speakers so that I can determine the best one in my budget.
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I don't know about superlatives, but:

https://www.focal.com/en/home-audio/...-utopia-em-evo

$120k each (rather than $225k the pair).
Ooh good find. Thanks!
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The RP/RF (excluding 7 series) line do not have compression drivers. They use a linear travel "s" something titanium tweeter- " LTS Vented Tweeter "

Only the heritage line including the RF7 series use compression drivers.
I'm assuming compression drivers are something that benefits sound quality? I'm not sure I need towers in such a small room though. What are the best bookshelf speakers I can get? (None of those $240K a pair ones though)
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PSA MTM 210Ts are like $700 or so less than the Klipsch RF7s

I HIGHLY encourage you to give the PSA speakers a try. I just bought 2 PSA MTM210ts and 1 MTM210C. These things are monsters. They are absolutely fantastic for home theater use and there is zero ear fatigue. I crank these things and never get fatigue.

I would go with whatever PSA speakers you can fit/afford and go with dual SVS or PSA subs you can fit/afford and call it a day. You will not regret it. Trust me.

Any mid level AVR will power these things to levels beyond what you can take and the speakers will remain crystal clear with 0% distortion. I like Denon because I've never had a problem with them. I would get the cheapest Denon AVR that has Audyssey Mult EQ XT32 and SUB EQHT to EQ your dual subwoofers separately. Monoprice 14 or 12 gauge speaker wire, banana plugs (any will do I use Monster), and 2 SVS soundpath subwoofer interconnect cables and you will be good to go.

Good luck!
Glad you commented here. So in addition to Klipsch, I've now also come across PSA and SVS. Also found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/commen...ound_sound_51/

So, that link seems to have the speakers listed in ascending order based on performance/quality. It has PSA listed as the best, with SVS second. Although it doesn't have the Klipsch RP-600M on the listed, so I'm not sure how it compares. If price is any indication of quality though, PSA and SVS do seem to cost a bit more.

To be completely honest, I'm a big fan of the glossy piano black finish, so the SVS Ultra looks absolutely exquisite. Not sure how they compare to PSA in terms of sound quality though.

Built this SVS system on their website: SVS Ultra 5.1.4 Surround

How would this perform in comparison to the aforementioned Klipsch system and the flagship PSA system?
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On or in ceiling is best for atmos.
Thank you! Can't do in-ceiling, so I'll just hang it from the ceiling.
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Came up with this SVS Ultra system and would like some opinions on it vs the Klipsch system (posted earlier) vs a PSA flagship system.
The Klipsch flagships (at least the towers) seem to be much higher priced than the other two? Which of these three systems would sound the best with their respective flagship LCR/height/sub speaker combo?
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Going with bookshelves, actually. Now only if I could find bookshelf speakers that produce the same quality of sound as their flagship floorstanding counterparts.

Actually planning on 4 identical bookshelves, 4 identical Atmos, a dedicated centre and a dedicated sub.

I'm curious as to why certain brands have speakers that cost the same as an entire system of another brand, and whether I would notice the increase in sound quality by going for a higher budget system. There isn't even a ranking for all the brands/speakers so that I can determine the best one in my budget.
The main audible advantage of towers is music listening in 2.0 mode...with a good sub this is largely moot, and for HT where 70-80% of the output comes out of the center speaker, entirely irrelevant.

Value-focused internet-direct speakers like the Ascend, Emotiva, and Chane mainly save you money by investing in quality drivers & hardware, instead of pretty cabinets. You want pretty, be prepared to pay extra for it...usually a LOT extra, when it comes to retail brands. There is no middle man taking his cut, and zero advertising costs...this is the main reason you almost never see them reviewed in the (heavily paid-for/corrupt) audio press. Most of the time, the manufacturer of the professionally reviewed products just HAPPEN (hahaha) to advertise in the reviewer's publication or website (especially for esoteric high dollar snake oil items like "audiophile" cables and power conditioners). Many years ago I got banned from one online audio forum for pointing out just that with regard to that forum's "Best Receivers" list was mainly comprised of the website's advertisers, lol.

The only foolproof way for you to figure out what you really want is to order 2-4 pairs of bookshelves from different manufacturers, compare them in YOUR room (individual room acoustics make all the difference in the world) with YOUR gear and preferred content, absent some pushy salesman constantly trying to upsell or brainwash you. Send back the losers, buy the rest of the system from the winner. A pair of bookshelves will typically cost $40-60 to ship back, and some manufacturers offer free return shipping (HTD, RSL, SVS, JBL/Infinity) while Crutchfield.com has a sweet $10 per box flat rate return shipping policy.
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Ranking speakers from best to worst is very, very, very subjective. Speakers are very much a "personal preference" thing. Sure, you can find speakers that measure perfectly flat, have great sensitivity and quality components and one person may think they sound exquisite, and another may think they sound "dull" or "lifeless".

The only way to know which speakers you prefer is to audition as many as you can.


One thing to keep in mind with piano black; sure they look great with the lights on, but when it comes to movie time and the lights go off, the reflections can drive you crazy. Personally, I want speakers that "disappear" when the room is dark....but I also black out every single little LED visible in my system, so....
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Came up with this SVS Ultra system and would like some opinions on it vs the Klipsch system (posted earlier) vs a PSA flagship system.
The Klipsch flagships (at least the towers) seem to be much higher priced than the other two? Which of these three systems would sound the best with their respective flagship LCR/height/sub speaker combo?
SVS is one internet-direct manufacturer that has very little price to performance advantage over retail brands. They do make nice stuff, but compared to their ID competitors they offer lousy bang for the buck.

However, they do offer free return shipping and are very nice/prompt about it...so you have nothing to lose if you're curious, just be sure to have other stuff on hand to compare to.

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Came up with this SVS Ultra system and would like some opinions on it vs the Klipsch system (posted earlier) vs a PSA flagship system.
With your small room, if you want a one-stop shopping experience I'd look at RSL speakers instead of SVS...they are also quite attractive looking in addition to offering much better price-to-performance.

The SVS PB2000 would be more than plenty for your room size (and is SVS's best dollar for dollar value btw), as would any 12" subs in the $600 range from Hsu and Rythmik.

PS. Every salesman and marketing department wants us all to follow the "you get what you pay for" paradigm. Don't get suckered into that...the point of diminishing returns hit very quickly and early in this game!

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Ranking speakers from best to worst is very, very, very subjective. Speakers are very much a "personal preference" thing. Sure, you can find speakers that measure perfectly flat, have great sensitivity and quality components and one person may think they sound exquisite, and another may think they sound "dull" or "lifeless".

The only way to know which speakers you prefer is to audition as many as you can.


One thing to keep in mind with piano black; sure they look great with the lights on, but when it comes to movie time and the lights go off, the reflections can drive you crazy. Personally, I want speakers that "disappear" when the room is dark....but I also black out every single little LED visible in my system, so....
But at least if I get a "flat" speaker, I can adjust the equalizer to get it to my preference right? And besides, the electrostatic headphones I used to use were very much on the neutral side with less bass than most would prefer. After I got used to it, I am yet to find one that was as good. Granted I haven't tried many, but still.

Thanks for the heads up on the gloss finish. I'll just have to deal with it. If I can get the aesthetics on point without compromising quality, all the better for me.
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SVS is one internet-direct manufacturer that has very little price to performance advantage over retail brands. They do make nice stuff, but compared to their ID competitors they offer lousy bang for the buck.

However, they do offer free return shipping and are very nice/prompt about it...so you have nothing to lose if you're curious, just be sure to have other stuff on hand to compare to.
I'm looking more for the absolute best in performance in the price range as opposed to getting the same quality for less. So is there anything that's technically better than the SVS system in a similar price range?

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1. How do I mount bookshelf speakers to the ceiling if I want to use them as Atmos speakers? I've come across Omnimount, but how do I mount the speakers to the mount? The speakers don't have screw holes on them.
2. Can I get the best possible audio quality out of the SVS system without an external amp if I use the Denon X3600H?
3. The SVS Ultra lineup does not have elevation speakers, but their Prime lineup does. Would it be advisable to go for Prime elevations instead of Ultra bookshelves for the ceiling Atmos speakers?

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