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Help finishing home theater

Hello everyone, we recently finished building a new home and I need some help choosing speakers. The room is wide open with 14’ ceilings and I’ve already installed 6.5” in-ceiling surround channels. I am struggling on the LCR channels and could use your feedback. I was initially leaning towards in-wall speakers but I have a stud running right down the middle of the TV so that won’t work. I’m now looking at on wall speakers but struggling to find the right fit. Here is my criteria:

-Slim(ish). I don’t want 12” deep bookshelf speakers.
-On wall mount (no floor stands)
-Not an audiophile though I enjoy listening to music. Primary goal is better audio for shows and movies.
-Under $1k for all three channels

I have a Yamaha TSR-7810 receiver and a nice 12” subwoofer already. I like the look of the Bose speakers but I don’t need an entire surround-in-a box setup. I thought about a passive LCR sound bar which works aesthetically but I feel like we can probably get better quality at a lower price with separate channels.

Thanks in advance!
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I should mention that I have room for in-wall L and R channels so I could always go in wall there and on-wall for the center. Also, I have about 12” of clearance for an in-wall center before I hit the stud but I haven’t found an in-wall that fits in that space.

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Hello everyone, we recently finished building a new home and I need some help choosing speakers. The room is wide open with 14’ ceilings and I’ve already installed 6.5” in-ceiling surround channels. I am struggling on the LCR channels and could use your feedback. I was initially leaning towards in-wall speakers but I have a stud running right down the middle of the TV so that won’t work. I’m now looking at on wall speakers but struggling to find the right fit. Here is my criteria:

-Slim(ish). I don’t want 12” deep bookshelf speakers.
-On wall mount (no floor stands)
-Not an audiophile though I enjoy listening to music. Primary goal is better audio for shows and movies.
-Under $1k for all three channels

I have a Yamaha TSR-7810 receiver and a nice 12” subwoofer already. I like the look of the Bose speakers but I don’t need an entire surround-in-a box setup. I thought about a passive LCR sound bar which works aesthetically but I feel like we can probably get better quality at a lower price with separate channels.
1. In-walls for the front 3 are an absolute last resort---basically, if someone is holding a gun to your head. Dollar for dollar, a huge step down in sound quality. Also, impossible to easily change out if you get them in your room and decide you aren't crazy about them. And lastly, when you move they stay...money down the drain.

2. Physics is physics: tiny dainty little cubes like Bose will NEVER sound as good as even $100 apiece bookshelf speakers...at ANY pricepoint. Don't buy the marketing/sales BS. You want your front 3 speakers to have at least 5" woofers, or if 4" woofers than two of them not one. 4" woofers are ok for surrounds, god help you if you seriously want to enjoy music with single 4" woofers as your front L/R speakers.

3. Your room being big or small affects ONLY your subwoofer choice...be sure to include all adjacent open spaces, not just the listening area. Your actual LISTENING DISTANCE and preferred LOUDNESS levels is what determines your speaker choice.

4. There are a number of very good COMPACT bookshelf speakers that are no more than 6-7 inches deep, which can be easily wall mounted. Here are some I'd look into:
  • Ascend 200SE
  • RSL CG23
  • NHT SuperOnes

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Look at Canton Ateiler -- you can mount them either on-wall or in-wall
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...te-each/1.html

https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...te-each/1.html

Look at HTD Versa -- you can also purchase decorative end-caps and cover socks
https://www.htd.com/Versa-SB1

https://www.htd.com/Versa-SB-End-Caps

https://www.htd.com/Versa-SB1-Sock

Look at Elac Debut 2.0 on wall
https://www.amazon.com/Debut-OW4-2-W...3635148&sr=8-1

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_970DOW...2-0-OW4-2.html

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I have a Yamaha TSR-7810 receiver and a nice 12” subwoofer already. I like the look of the Bose speakers but I don’t need an entire surround-in-a box setup. I thought about a passive LCR sound bar which works aesthetically but I feel like we can probably get better quality at a lower price with separate channels.

Thanks in advance!
So smallish on walls.

I'd get three of these.

The tweeter is first rate, come with wall mounting hardware.

5.3 x 22.5 x 5.6 in

https://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-M...50465177&psc=1

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In walls hold some very substantial advantages over box speakers.....I'd consider using three matching, vertically oriented in wall speakers for LCR. Horizontal center is always a sound quality compromise so no need to fit wider than 12".

If looking for the most aesthetically unobtrusive speakers, you can't beat in walls, and they will perform drastically better than undersized on walls.

I'd check Revel and Kef. Not sure about Kef but you can get big discounts on Revel with a dealer.

Maybe three of these:
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...el-each/1.html

Kef makes very well designed speakers. I'd be willing to be that these would outperform most similarly priced bookshelves in tiny boxes.....the large wall cavity along with being mounted flush to the wall is a big sound quality advantage over box speakers...which usually have to be pulled way out into the room to overcome their comparatively deficient design.

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