Originally Posted by adam2434
Wow, you like the TFEs more than LSiMs! Curious about what you like better about the TFE presentation?
And yes, I've also commented about the TFE100 bass heaviness...and I'm also crossing them over at 100 Hz in our gym system. Running them full range, I think they would need a lot of distance from walls to not sound bass heavy (or maybe some bass reduction via tone control or EQ).
I'd like to give the TFE60 a spin too, but have several other pairs of bookshelf speakers in stock and not being used.
Sure! My take is as follows. I had the 703s as my LCRs for my setup (the Sony Cores were my surrounds). I never really did any AB testing or anything when I got them, I just assumed they were better than my Boston M25s I had so I just threw them in. Figured I hadn't bought anything for my living room in 5 years, and saw people saying the TFE was better than the JBL 5 series, so I figured why not. Let's see.
When they arrived I was curious if they really were these giant slayers so I put them side by side in my living room and started playing around for the weekend. Never did AB testing before, and no, I know it's not scientific, because even a few inch difference in a room can change the sound signature, but still figured I may as well try something. Switching back and forth through out the days, in pure direct, with the spl meter in hand, the differences though were quite interesting.
Listening to jazz, things like Brecker Bros, Dave Brubeck, Mingus and the like, the LSiM703 was crazy detailed in terms of mouth noise on the sax, fingers on the fretboard, etc. They REALLY were absolutely eerily strange to listen to in that regard. It was really cool, definitely a "WTF wow" moment when I heard a voice actors saliva mouth noise front, loud, and center in an anime scene with these speakers when AB testing some anime scenes. But everything felt... Flat. lifeless really.
Even pianos felt hollow when put next to the full body piano sounds the TFE were producing. I put on some orchestral music, some video game music, and like... To put it lightly, you didn't feel anything. Powerful vocals that were rich and filling the room with the TFE just kinda felt 'there' with the Polks. Almost filtered, thats how lifeless it felt. The speaker lacked any sort of dynamical range in my room it was like. It was odd. It was like most sterile speaker that wasn't commanding me at all. When any sort dynamical movement happened, it just happened and didn't move me at all. Musical build ups lacked anything as everything just sounded similar without any change or dynamics.
The TFE 60s, and obviously 100s on the other hand when the timpani drum or anything with range struck, it would fillllll the room with energy and power. Like there was still a hint of that detail that the LSiMs had, it just wasn't up front and in your face like those, but it was still there, which made me happy, but these had a more commanding presence in my room.
I kinda summed it up to a friend as the LSiMs felt like I was in the studio with the Pat Metheny, behind the glass, with a pencil on my ear looking at numbers. The TFEs felt like I was at the Blue Note in NYC with Pat Metheny jamming in front of me. And since this is a setup for games, movies, and music, I figured the highly detail, with lack of any body or richness in the sound, of the LSiMs just didn't work for me like the TFEs.
In the end I definitely see the purpose in the LSiMs. I guess thats why people say they are very treble heavy and have a harsh treble and upper mid range? I guess that is what might lead to that "detail rich" but lacking rich sound. After doing the side by side I did poke around online and boy do a lot of people complain about the treble and upper ranges of the Polks. Really this is just one of those personal sound signature things.
Though you made me drag out a 703 from the computer room and put it in the living room to test it again.
Played The Praetorium Theme from Final Fantasy XIV and yeah.... yeah no, the LSiM703s in my living room do NOT do that any justice at all. It's almost comical how tame it sounds.