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musicman777 12-02-2019 09:24 AM

New Klipsch Cornwall IV Horn Loudspeakers WOW!
 
Here's some great feedback from a Reviewer! :eeksurprise:

https://www.positive-feedback.com/sh...w-impressions/

coytee 12-02-2019 09:45 AM

Has nobody yet told that dufas that horns are honky??

:D

Dave in Green 12-02-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by coytee (Post 58902204)
Has nobody yet told that dufas that horns are honky??

:D

Did you read the review?

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However… the traditional downside of horn speakers for the majority of audiophiles has been unacceptable levels of horn coloration, with tinny, honky and forward midrange, sizzly, peaky treble, and a flat spatial presentation. This is the ugly sound of most PA speakers, and we've all heard it and cringed. The better high-efficiency speakers get away from the dreaded PA sound, but there's enough residual coloration that the mainstream audiophile won't accept them into their homes… due to size, colorations, or just a general dislike of that kind of sound.

agent.5 12-02-2019 12:39 PM

from the same article


""The other quality is a hidden, not-well-known virtue of horn speakers: they don't lose resolution and coherence as the sound levels go down. They sound exactly the same at 105 and 55 dB.

DreamWarrior 12-02-2019 02:59 PM

Looks like the mid-horn (err, waveguide, lol) in these is pretty similar to the design used in the JBL M2s. If I didn't already have speakers I was in love with, I'd probably give them a shot.

That said, I read some "reviews" on another forum and there were a lot of people pontificating about how much amplifier power to pair with them. Way too many folks were suggesting not to overpower them or "the bass becomes bloated" or the highs "get honky". Ugh! Guess those morons have never heard about input sensitivity and level matching.

Ryan Otis 12-02-2019 03:49 PM

nice post thanks!

musicman777 12-02-2019 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamWarrior (Post 58904100)
Looks like the mid-horn (err, waveguide, lol) in these is pretty similar to the design used in the JBL M2s. If I didn't already have speakers I was in love with, I'd probably give them a shot.

That said, I read some "reviews" on another forum and there were a lot of people pontificating about how much amplifier power to pair with them. Way too many folks were suggesting not to overpower them or "the bass becomes bloated" or the highs "get honky". Ugh! Guess those morons have never heard about input sensitivity and level matching.

I bet the all new Bakoon amp-13R Integrated amp would make these speakers SING!..:devil:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/bakoonintl/posts/

DreamWarrior 12-02-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by musicman777 (Post 58904416)
I bet the all new Bakoon amp-13R Integrated amp would make these speakers SING!..:devil:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/bakoonintl/posts/

No idea -- Google'd it, saw enough on the first page of results not to bother giving Bakoon the benefit of the doubt and click on the company link (won't give Google the satisfaction either). Moreover, I don't do Facebook, nor will I give their site clicks anymore, either.

musicman777 12-02-2019 10:17 PM

The Bakoon amp-13r at only 25 watts.. can make these hard to drive speakers sing! :eek:


agent.5 12-02-2019 10:22 PM

horn speakers are usually mated with tube amps, outputting a whopping 2 - 8W.

musicman777 12-02-2019 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by agent.5 (Post 58906078)
horn speakers are usually mated with tube amps, outputting a whopping 2 - 8W.

Go look what the reviewers are saying about the Bakoon amp-13r...:D

agent.5 12-03-2019 11:37 AM

I belong to the school that when you are listening to an amplifier, you are listening to the power supply. Big transformers, huge banks of capacitors, plus glowing vacuum tubes are all good qualities. Amplifiers with anorexia disorder, such as pretty much every products from Apple, are just bad.

mmiles 12-03-2019 07:51 PM

Still alive. I owned Cornwalls about 30 years ago.

hardeng 12-04-2019 05:21 AM

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Would be interesting to know what power amp was used to drive the Cornwalls at that show. If they're anything like the Klipschorns reviewed in Stereophile, they'll have a very different sound when using a high output impedance tube amp compared to a low output impedance solid state amp.

hardeng 12-04-2019 05:36 AM

Looks like it was a Cary Audio SLI-80HS tube amp.

https://www.caryaudio.com/2019/09/05...the-2019-rmaf/

From a Stereophile review of that amp:
The output impedance from the SLI-80HS's 8 ohm tap was fairly high in both Ultra-linear and triode modes, at 4.35 ohms, Ultralinear, and 3.2 ohms, triode...

So would likely add quite a bit of warmth to the Cornwalls compared to a typical solid state.

musicman777 12-04-2019 01:02 PM

If you can't afford these new Cornwall's you can get these Cornscala's for a lot less money and they are said to be even better! :eek:

https://critesspeakers.com/cornscala.html

sigpig 12-04-2019 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hardeng (Post 58911778)
Looks like it was a Cary Audio SLI-80HS tube amp.

https://www.caryaudio.com/2019/09/05...the-2019-rmaf/

From a Stereophile review of that amp:
The output impedance from the SLI-80HS's 8 ohm tap was fairly high in both Ultra-linear and triode modes, at 4.35 ohms, Ultralinear, and 3.2 ohms, triode...

So would likely add quite a bit of warmth to the Cornwalls compared to a typical solid state.

In other words, distortion...

brian6751 12-04-2019 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by musicman777 (Post 58913868)
If you can't afford these new Cornwall's you can get these Cornscala's for a lot less money and they are said to be even better! :eek:



https://critesspeakers.com/cornscala.html



Not even close [emoji6]

JonfromCB 12-04-2019 09:41 PM

These are "not even close"......http://voltiaudio.com/

Class A 12-05-2019 03:45 PM

My local dealer sells the Klipsch Heritage Speakers series. I heard both the new Heresy which is now rear ported instead of front. Much better base response. The new Cornwall IV has a big dynamic sound w/nice tight base. Both were powered by the Luxman SQ-N150 Integrated tube amp. 10wpc but plenty of power for both speakers. You can have normal listening levels at just 8:00 on the volume dial. 11:00 will chase you out of the room. The combo was smooth and dynamic. Excellent improvements on the Heritage line.:)

MUDCAT45 12-05-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Class A (Post 58919488)
My local dealer sells the Klipsch Heritage Speakers series. I heard both the new Heresy which is now rear ported instead of front. Much better base response. The new Cornwall IV has a big dynamic sound w/nice tight base. Both were powered by the Luxman SQ-N150 Integrated tube amp. 10wpc but plenty of power for both speakers. You can have normal listening levels at just 8:00 on the volume dial. 11:00 will chase you out of the room. The combo was smooth and dynamic. Excellent improvements on the Heritage line.:)

I have Heresy 111 and have also owned other versions. None had ports.

Class A 12-05-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 (Post 58919812)
I have Heresy 111 and have also owned other versions. None had ports.

I heard them today. They showed me the rear bass ports. New design.:)

MUDCAT45 12-05-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Class A (Post 58919858)
I heard them today. They showed me the rear bass ports. New design.:)

What do you think you actually listened to? :)

Class A 12-05-2019 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 (Post 58919868)
What do you think you actually listened to? :)

The new Hersey IV is rear ported. You can check out the new design. W/proper position gives you more bass. Also heard the Cornwall IV best Cornwall ever. Excellent upgraded designs.:)

MUDCAT45 12-05-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Class A (Post 58919954)
The new Hersey IV is rear ported. You can check out the new design. W/proper position gives you more bass. Also heard the Cornwall IV best Cornwall ever. Excellent upgraded designs.:)

Very inteeeeristing. Thanks for the info. They needed more bass. Still older versions make an excellent clear sounding center.

Class A 12-05-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDCAT45 (Post 58919978)
Very inteeeeristing. Thanks for the info. They needed more bass. Still older versions make an excellent clear sounding center.

Totally agree! A timeless design that's easy to place and can be powered by any amp you want. Very flexible when it comes to power. I prefer tubes but that's me.:)


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