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Arrow New Klipsch Cornwall IV Horn Loudspeakers WOW!

Here's some great feedback from a Reviewer!

https://www.positive-feedback.com/sh...w-impressions/
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Has nobody yet told that dufas that horns are honky??

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Has nobody yet told that dufas that horns are honky??

Did you read the review?

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However… the traditional downside of horn speakers for the majority of audiophiles has been unacceptable levels of horn coloration, with tinny, honky and forward midrange, sizzly, peaky treble, and a flat spatial presentation. This is the ugly sound of most PA speakers, and we've all heard it and cringed. The better high-efficiency speakers get away from the dreaded PA sound, but there's enough residual coloration that the mainstream audiophile won't accept them into their homes… due to size, colorations, or just a general dislike of that kind of sound.
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""The other quality is a hidden, not-well-known virtue of horn speakers: they don't lose resolution and coherence as the sound levels go down. They sound exactly the same at 105 and 55 dB.
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Looks like the mid-horn (err, waveguide, lol) in these is pretty similar to the design used in the JBL M2s. If I didn't already have speakers I was in love with, I'd probably give them a shot.

That said, I read some "reviews" on another forum and there were a lot of people pontificating about how much amplifier power to pair with them. Way too many folks were suggesting not to overpower them or "the bass becomes bloated" or the highs "get honky". Ugh! Guess those morons have never heard about input sensitivity and level matching.
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Looks like the mid-horn (err, waveguide, lol) in these is pretty similar to the design used in the JBL M2s. If I didn't already have speakers I was in love with, I'd probably give them a shot.

That said, I read some "reviews" on another forum and there were a lot of people pontificating about how much amplifier power to pair with them. Way too many folks were suggesting not to overpower them or "the bass becomes bloated" or the highs "get honky". Ugh! Guess those morons have never heard about input sensitivity and level matching.
I bet the all new Bakoon amp-13R Integrated amp would make these speakers SING!..

https://www.facebook.com/pg/bakoonintl/posts/
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I bet the all new Bakoon amp-13R Integrated amp would make these speakers SING!..

https://www.facebook.com/pg/bakoonintl/posts/
No idea -- Google'd it, saw enough on the first page of results not to bother giving Bakoon the benefit of the doubt and click on the company link (won't give Google the satisfaction either). Moreover, I don't do Facebook, nor will I give their site clicks anymore, either.
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The Bakoon amp-13r at only 25 watts.. can make these hard to drive speakers sing!

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horn speakers are usually mated with tube amps, outputting a whopping 2 - 8W.
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horn speakers are usually mated with tube amps, outputting a whopping 2 - 8W.
Go look what the reviewers are saying about the Bakoon amp-13r...
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I belong to the school that when you are listening to an amplifier, you are listening to the power supply. Big transformers, huge banks of capacitors, plus glowing vacuum tubes are all good qualities. Amplifiers with anorexia disorder, such as pretty much every products from Apple, are just bad.
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Still alive. I owned Cornwalls about 30 years ago.

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Would be interesting to know what power amp was used to drive the Cornwalls at that show. If they're anything like the Klipschorns reviewed in Stereophile, they'll have a very different sound when using a high output impedance tube amp compared to a low output impedance solid state amp.
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Looks like it was a Cary Audio SLI-80HS tube amp.

https://www.caryaudio.com/2019/09/05...the-2019-rmaf/

From a Stereophile review of that amp:
The output impedance from the SLI-80HS's 8 ohm tap was fairly high in both Ultra-linear and triode modes, at 4.35 ohms, Ultralinear, and 3.2 ohms, triode...

So would likely add quite a bit of warmth to the Cornwalls compared to a typical solid state.
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If you can't afford these new Cornwall's you can get these Cornscala's for a lot less money and they are said to be even better!

https://critesspeakers.com/cornscala.html
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Looks like it was a Cary Audio SLI-80HS tube amp.

https://www.caryaudio.com/2019/09/05...the-2019-rmaf/

From a Stereophile review of that amp:
The output impedance from the SLI-80HS's 8 ohm tap was fairly high in both Ultra-linear and triode modes, at 4.35 ohms, Ultralinear, and 3.2 ohms, triode...

So would likely add quite a bit of warmth to the Cornwalls compared to a typical solid state.
In other words, distortion...
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If you can't afford these new Cornwall's you can get these Cornscala's for a lot less money and they are said to be even better!



https://critesspeakers.com/cornscala.html


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These are "not even close"......http://voltiaudio.com/
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My local dealer sells the Klipsch Heritage Speakers series. I heard both the new Heresy which is now rear ported instead of front. Much better base response. The new Cornwall IV has a big dynamic sound w/nice tight base. Both were powered by the Luxman SQ-N150 Integrated tube amp. 10wpc but plenty of power for both speakers. You can have normal listening levels at just 8:00 on the volume dial. 11:00 will chase you out of the room. The combo was smooth and dynamic. Excellent improvements on the Heritage line.
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My local dealer sells the Klipsch Heritage Speakers series. I heard both the new Heresy which is now rear ported instead of front. Much better base response. The new Cornwall IV has a big dynamic sound w/nice tight base. Both were powered by the Luxman SQ-N150 Integrated tube amp. 10wpc but plenty of power for both speakers. You can have normal listening levels at just 8:00 on the volume dial. 11:00 will chase you out of the room. The combo was smooth and dynamic. Excellent improvements on the Heritage line.
I have Heresy 111 and have also owned other versions. None had ports.
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I have Heresy 111 and have also owned other versions. None had ports.
I heard them today. They showed me the rear bass ports. New design.
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I heard them today. They showed me the rear bass ports. New design.
What do you think you actually listened to?
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What do you think you actually listened to?
The new Hersey IV is rear ported. You can check out the new design. W/proper position gives you more bass. Also heard the Cornwall IV best Cornwall ever. Excellent upgraded designs.
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The new Hersey IV is rear ported. You can check out the new design. W/proper position gives you more bass. Also heard the Cornwall IV best Cornwall ever. Excellent upgraded designs.
Very inteeeeristing. Thanks for the info. They needed more bass. Still older versions make an excellent clear sounding center.
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Very inteeeeristing. Thanks for the info. They needed more bass. Still older versions make an excellent clear sounding center.
Totally agree! A timeless design that's easy to place and can be powered by any amp you want. Very flexible when it comes to power. I prefer tubes but that's me.
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