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Parasound a51 going to Energy RC-70’s and RC-LCR for R/C/L.


Looking at BJC and they basically offer 3 types of speaker cable:

Belden 10
Belden 12
Canare 4S11


Coming from Monster Cable Z2 series that I’ve had for ten years but moving into a new house.

With cost not being a factor, Which cable do I buy?

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Whichever looks best to your eye. They will sound the same.
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I chose the Canare 4S11, but all of them are very good options. I agree with jdcrox, get what looks best to you.
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I’ve used both with no difference in perceived sound quality. Choosing the proper gauge is most important. I used the canare when I was bi-wiring my speakers; That made no difference to me either 🙂
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I’ve used both with no difference in perceived sound quality. Choosing the proper gauge is most important. I used the canare when I was bi-wiring my speakers; That made no difference to me either 🙂
I would in fact bi-wire the front 3 if I went with the Canare.

What kind of speakers do you have where it made no difference?

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I’️ve used both with no difference in perceived sound quality. Choosing the proper gauge is most important. I used the canare when I was bi-wiring my speakers; That made no difference to me either 🙂
I would in fact bi-wire the front 3 if I went with the Canare.

What kind of speakers do you have where it made no difference?
I have all Aerial Acoustics for my 7 bed layer speakers. I only bi-wired because I didn’t have any jumpers for the speakers’ binding posts.
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Parasound a51 going to Energy RC-70’s and RC-LCR for R/C/L.


Looking at BJC and they basically offer 3 types of speaker cable:

Belden 10
Belden 12
Canare 4S11

With cost not being a factor, Which cable do I buy?

Are you making them yourself, or buying terminated ones? The 10 will be overkill, and also a little more challenging to terminate depending on your particular connector. I myself love overkill, so if you're not worried about it and cost is no issue, and buying the pre-terminated ones, I'd go 10. Make yourself, 12 is just fine and just a bit easier to work with but you can do 10. They'll sound the same. Canare'd be fine too. You won't go wrong with any one of those.
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Are you making them yourself, or buying terminated ones? The 10 will be overkill, and also a little more challenging to terminate depending on your particular connector. I myself love overkill, so if you're not worried about it and cost is no issue, and buying the pre-terminated ones, I'd go 10. Make yourself, 12 is just fine and just a bit easier to work with but you can do 10. They'll sound the same. Canare'd be fine too. You won't go wrong with any one of those.
I don't make ANYTHING myself....haha.....I have no skills!


I think I have it narrowed down to the 10 or the Canare Bi-wire.

House will be completed Jan 9th.

Sold everything I own and will be moving in with nothing but a dream home theater system. I will have to sit on the floor to watch it.....furniture all ordered from Italy and it will not be here til March.....ugh.....

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Parasound a51 going to Energy RC-70’s and RC-LCR for R/C/L.


Looking at BJC and they basically offer 3 types of speaker cable:

Belden 10
Belden 12
Canare 4S11


Coming from Monster Cable Z2 series that I’ve had for ten years but moving into a new house.

With cost not being a factor, Which cable do I buy?
If money is no object as you say, just toss a coin. Draw straws. Shoot dice. Pick whichever one looks prettier. Has a snazzier name. Consult some tarot cards. Or ask your favorite astrologer.

It won't make a whit of difference A, B, or C.
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If money is not a concern, then buy some Nordost cabling. They make the prettiest speaker cables I have seen.

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If money is not a concern, then buy some Nordost cabling. They make the prettiest speaker cables I have seen.
MOney is not an object in THIS decision as the speaker cables are all about the same price, dude.

In all honesty, I don't care enough about home theater to spend Nordost kind of money on cabling.....but I don't cheap out on things, either. No Monoprice for me.....LoL

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MOney is not an object in THIS decision as the speaker cables are all about the same price, dude.

In all honesty, I don't care enough about home theater to spend Nordost kind of money on cabling.....but I don't cheap out on things, either. No Monoprice for me.....LoL
I was just having a little fun. I use Blue Jeans cables for most everything in my system.
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I was just having a little fun. I use Blue Jeans cables for most everything in my system.


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...but I don't cheap out on things, either. No Monoprice for me.....LoL

If there's no difference in performance or reliability, then it's not really "cheaping out."
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What will be your longest single speaker wire length?
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I went with Belden 12. Canare isn't certified for in-wall use. Second coat of spackle went up today... I'm still about a month away before I can hook up any equipment.
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What will be your longest single speaker wire length?
13/10/3 feet for R/L/C.

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I went with Belden 12. Canare isn't certified for in-wall use. Second coat of spackle went up today... I'm still about a month away before I can hook up any equipment.
I won’t be running this cable in-wall.

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12/10/3 feet for R/L/C.
For a 12' run, any of the three options should be adequate. Personally, I would go with the Belden 12, the Belden 10 may be overkill. You may be tossing away a $ or three.
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For a 12' run, any of the three options should be adequate. Personally, I would go with the Belden 12, the Belden 10 may be overkill. You may be tossing away a $ or three.

Yes, for runs shorter than 50', there's no benefit to the Belden 10. There's only disadvantages - more money and thicker/harder to work with. For L/C/R, I ordered Belden 12 with welded banana plugs on each end. For my ceiling speakers, I'm going to attach them with bare wire in the ceiling. For my surround towers, I bought set screw banana plugs that I'll attach after the construction is done, but I ordered ALL welded banana plugs on the amp side of the cables. I also ran a Cat6a cable from downstairs, through the floor to the front of the room and 7 hdmi cables (for the new and my old system). All in cost me $728.
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