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Speaker help (from the experts) decisions, decisions

Hi All,

I am in search of speakers to replace my current Kef floor standing models. The reason is due to a recent move and lack of space.

Background on room:14 by 17 and open on 2 sides ( one side leading to kitchen the other to the entry way and stairs). Also, I do have a SVS sub and a Yamaha receiver.

I am struggling to decide between a high quality bar and a 3-1 set up. My local place let me borrow a Yamaha YSP 5600 sound bar which I like but not sure if it is good as standard speakers and I do not want to regret down the road. My price point is around 1500.

My question is should I go the sound bar route as noted above or do 3 speakers? My place has PSB, Kef, Paradigm, Martin Logic, etc. as options. I am sticking with them as I can trade in my old speakers.

Any thoughts/opinions are greatly appreciated.

Ryan
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what are the speaker dimensions and with a room that size, what is the lack of space? do you mean that you have so much stuff that will be that close to the speakers that they won't fit? is there no way they will work?

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Hi All,

I am in search of speakers to replace my current Kef floor standing models. The reason is due to a recent move and lack of space.

Background on room:14 by 17 and open on 2 sides ( one side leading to kitchen the other to the entry way and stairs). Also, I do have a SVS sub and a Yamaha receiver.

I am struggling to decide between a high quality bar and a 3-1 set up. My local place let me borrow a Yamaha YSP 5600 sound bar which I like but not sure if it is good as standard speakers and I do not want to regret down the road. My price point is around 1500.

My question is should I go the sound bar route as noted above or do 3 speakers? My place has PSB, Kef, Paradigm, Martin Logic, etc. as options. I am sticking with them as I can trade in my old speakers.

Any thoughts/opinions are greatly appreciated.

Ryan
If you like how the Kef sound, just get smaller speakers such as Q150 or LS50's. You have a pretty good sub that easily handle a 90-100hz crossover. A soundbar will not even come close.

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Thanks both. The reason for the lack of space is we have sort of a half wall due the openings on both sides and a large fireplace cabinet. The speakers kind of stick out in the openings.

I should mention that I was looking for on wall options, knew I missed something...
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to keep us from imagining/trying to understand, may I suggest pictures, nice clear pictures!

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Picture a good idea although struggling to attach with iPad. I did take a pic but struggling...
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I couldn't find where Paradigm or Martin Logan (same parent company as Anthem, BTW) have any true on-wall speakers. The only ones KEF has at the moment are the KEF T-series, including T201 and T301 variants.

As much as I like KEF, the best true on-wall speakers I've ever heard are the Totem Acoustics Tribe series.

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Hi All,

I am in search of speakers to replace my current Kef floor standing models. The reason is due to a recent move and lack of space.

Background on room:14 by 17 and open on 2 sides ( one side leading to kitchen the other to the entry way and stairs). Also, I do have a SVS sub and a Yamaha receiver.

I am struggling to decide between a high quality bar and a 3-1 set up. My local place let me borrow a Yamaha YSP 5600 sound bar which I like but not sure if it is good as standard speakers and I do not want to regret down the road. My price point is around 1500.

My question is should I go the sound bar route as noted above or do 3 speakers? My place has PSB, Kef, Paradigm, Martin Logic, etc. as options. I am sticking with them as I can trade in my old speakers.
You can spend as little as $400-500 for 3 bookshelf speakers (mostly internet-direct brands not retail ones) that would easily run circles around any soundbar at any price. Physics is physics.

Spending much more than say, $1K on your front 3 speakers will simply get you prettier cabinets, if that is high on your list of priorities.
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Thank you. I will check them out.
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Thank you. I will check them out.
I have this as my center speaker in my secondary room.

Plays surprising loud and clear for such a small box.

Come with hardware to mount vertically or horizontally as the tweeter has equal dispersion horizontally and vertically.

The slightly curved cabinet seems to take care of any "lobing issues" related to the mid/tweeter/mid design.

Plus is they are small and relatively attractive.

Unfortunately the "new" version of this speaker is $450 a retailers which is ridiculously high so unless your dealer can work with you on getting that price closer to this price, (the "new" and "old" are essentially identical), you might not be interested.

https://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-M...50465177&psc=1

You can also use these for left and right and save some money. They also come with wall brackets.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_839MO4...Motion-4i.html

Here is a review AVS Forum did of that kind of system:

https://www.avsforum.com/martinlogan...system-review/

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