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5.1 in ceiling suggestions

Hello everyone

I have been looking for a couple weeks now but its hard to make a choice. Just looking for suggestions. I know in ceiling is not good for center.left.right. But this is not my main the theater room. That one is done the proper way. This room is where we plan to have the kids around the most, so best if i did not have wires and huge speakers around. So far i really like the rls speakers i’ve seen many people recommend, also Acoustic Audio CS-IC83.

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Not sure what your budget is, but check out Triad.
All of mine are in ceiling, with the exception of the center. It's in the AV cabinet directly under the TV.

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So far i really like the rls speakers i’ve seen many people recommend, also Acoustic Audio CS-IC83.

The RSLs are a very good value, and it's a great company. You do have a lot of options, but like RagtopFE already mentioned, knowing a budget would be helpful.

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My apologies, so somewhere between 2000-1000 range for speakers alone, reciver and sub I already have
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One thing i did no consider is putting bookshelves speakers hanging on the side and top of tv, is there anyways i could use the pre wired holes for the LCR as atmos?
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One thing i did no consider is putting bookshelves speakers hanging on the side and top of tv, is there anyways i could use the pre wired holes for the LCR as atmos?
Yes, if you can wall mount by all means do it---especially for the critical front 3.

And yes to your second question.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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One thing i did no consider is putting bookshelves speakers hanging on the side and top of tv, is there anyways i could use the pre wired holes for the LCR as atmos?
Yes, if you can wall mount by all means do it---especially for the critical front 3.


And yes to your second question.
That would be awesome only problem I face is that the holes I have are not on the center of the room but very close to the wall where the tv would be, could that work as Atmos speakers

LCR - bookshelf
Two surround
And I have 3 holes for LCR near the tv wall
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That would be awesome only problem I face is that the holes I have are not on the center of the room but very close to the wall where the tv would be, could that work as Atmos speakers
Should be fine as front height speakers. The two in the back would serve as your rear height speakers if doing 5.1.4 or 5.2.4 ... you can confirm this with say, Crutchfield's excellent customer support (just don't order any in-ceilings from them, they're likely to upsell you to more expensive in-ceilings than you need).

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Should be fine as front height speakers. The two in the back would serve as your rear height speakers if doing 5.1.4 or 5.2.4 ... you can confirm this with say, Crutchfield's excellent customer support (just don't order any in-ceilings from them, they're likely to upsell you to more expensive in-ceilings than you need).
Would Polk Audio 80F be a good idea, since my system us all polk anyways

for LCR I have: S35 and two S60s
and surround 4 Polk Audio 70-RT
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Would Polk Audio 80F be a good idea, since my system us all polk anyways
If that's what you like/want then why not. I wouldn't think or spend much on height speakers personally, but that's just me.

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Kids grow up but speakers stay the same forever! You may regret it in a couple years.
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Have 4x RSL C34E - They do a great job.
do you think the RSL C34E ceiling speakers will be fine for my front LCR for my 5.1 home theatre in living room. considering an additional 2 for rears.

or should i stick with the martin logan electromotion IC 6.5
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do you think the RSL C34E ceiling speakers will be fine for my front LCR for my 5.1 home theatre in living room. considering an additional 2 for rears.

or should i stick with the martin logan electromotion IC 6.5
They mount in the ceiling only and are angled in such a way that if you turned them vertically I don't think it would work. Are you wanting to have your front stage in the ceiling?

Maybe I am misunderstanding. Are you asking if the ceiling speakers would work with your mains? If so I'm sure they would be fine, I don't think atmos speakers have to be a match in timbre to LCR.

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They mount in the ceiling only and are angled in such a way that if you turned them vertically I don't think it would work. Are you wanting to have your front stage in the ceiling?

Maybe I am misunderstanding. Are you asking if the ceiling speakers would work with your mains? If so I'm sure they would be fine, I don't think atmos speakers have to be a match in timbre to LCR.

I am looking to buy 3 amazing in ceiling speakers. I will be first to admit I have no idea what I should be looking for but what i gather is it needs to be an angled speaker. it is a 10 ft ceiling, and my viewing area is 10-12 ft away. tv will be sitting over the fireplace

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You really need to consider not ceiling mounting your front three. The angles do not work well for clarity and dispersion.

Having said that, as far as in ceiling speakers go, there are a number of good options. I like the RSLs, but your budget can do better. The clarity and fullness of my Paradigms are better than the RSLs, though they do cost a significant amount more.

If you can get your front three to on wall, in wall, or merely mounted bookshelves, that will sound better with the right angle and dispersion.

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If you mount the speakers further away than about 7 feet from your seated ears, you would be better off with a speaker that has more angle. Look at Paradigm for speakers that are angled at 30 degrees. Also Golden Ear 7000 series. Both significantly more expensive than the RSL.

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I am looking to buy 3 amazing in ceiling speakers. I will be first to admit I have no idea what I should be looking for but what i gather is it needs to be an angled speaker. it is a 10 ft ceiling, and my viewing area is 10-12 ft away. tv will be sitting over the fireplace
Yeah I wouldn't use these speakers for LRC. They are designed to be pretty much over your head, Mine are about 2-3 feet in front/diagonal and rear/diagonal in reinforced drop ceiling panels. If you don't use regular speakers for LCR you are going to have major staging issues and dialogue will be very disconnected from the TV. You would want to have your center channel below the screen if possible.

Also understanding space may be limited, I would try to avoid putting your screen over the fireplace if possible, otherwise your neck is craned up. Understand space is the limiter though, at our old house we had to have our tv over the fireplace, but it wasnt a dedicated HT.

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