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Lightbulb Looking for a good compact 2.1 Desk Speaker

HI,
I have a Sennheiser HD58X and HD6XX Headphone and I'm looking no also to buy a 2.1 Speaker for my Desk.
But i have a hard time to find something good. The only one i could find that was in my quality sound range was the 'Klipsch ProMedia 2.1' but that one is sold out and i can only import them for double the price and some people report problems with the power supply board after 1-2 years.
What would be the next best thing out there at a normal price?
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I bought my Klipsch 2.1 over 6 years ago, used. No issue with it what so ever. Where do you live that you have a hard time finding them?
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I bought my Klipsch 2.1 over 6 years ago, used. No issue with it what so ever. Where do you live that you have a hard time finding them?
I live in Germany. I have the feeling they have stop produced them.
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The standard question: what's your budget?

The Promedia 2.1 was a good value. I'm not sure whether the Logitech Z623 is as good, but it has the advantage of still being available. https://www.amazon.de/Logitech-Sound...0162806&sr=8-5

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The 'Klipsch ProMedia 2.1' is a lot better than the 'Logitech Z625' or 'Edifier S350DB'.
My budget would be around 300€. But i'm looking for a good value speakers. I would not pay 100€ more for something that is only 2% better.
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I couldn't find anything to compare them too. But i will put them on my section list.
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I couldn't find anything to compare them too. But i will put them on my section list.
Looks like the JBL 305p is available in Germany...I'd move them to the top of your list.
https://www.amazon.de/s?k=jbl+305p&_...f=nb_sb_noss_1

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Looks like the JBL 305p is available in Germany...I'd move them to the top of your list.
https://www.amazon.de/s?k=jbl+305p&_...f=nb_sb_noss_1
I haven't heard a pair of 305s, but they have a favorable reputation. (The "pro" inputs may cause fun for the OP, if it is unfamiliar and easily intimidated.)

How about a sub? Not needed?

Sadly, Realtek (most common onboard sound) doesn't offer a 2.1 configuration, AFAIK.
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if you can listen to audioengine I would demo.
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I haven't heard a pair of 305s, but they have a favorable reputation. (The "pro" inputs may cause fun for the OP, if it is unfamiliar and easily intimidated.)

How about a sub? Not needed?
For music not HT, most people are ok without a sub since the 305p have a respectable 3db roll off at 49Hz.

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jbl 305 which I owned and sent back have noise and honestly dont sound good sitting 2 ft away. maybe my pair was defective..but they were no bueno.

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Speakers with a good deep subwoofer is a must for me.
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jbl 305 which I owned and sent back have noise and honestly dont sound good sitting 2 ft away. maybe my pair was defective..but they were no bueno.
I have a pair of the 308s for my pc and tried to connect them to the onboard sound but had quite a bit of noise as well. Switching to a different wall outlet for the speakers helped but ultimately getting a stand alone DAC completely eliminated it. Im very happy with the way they sound now, well worth it.
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jbl 305 which I owned and sent back have noise and honestly dont sound good sitting 2 ft away. maybe my pair was defective..but they were no bueno.
I really liked the sound of these. I rented the bigger version from a store to have a karaoke party at home. Yes there was a bit of hiss but only when speaker is turned on but no music playing. It's also why i didn't buy it for my desktop since I may leave the speaker on but silent for periods of time
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NHT C-1 on Amazon for 185 Euros.

I have and earlier version of this speaker (NHT Absolute Zero) coupled with a mid-sized sub. This combination produces wonderful sound. The C-1 has the same speaker line-up as the Absolute Zero with a slightly different cabinet. I listen mainly to classical music but I'm sure these speakers will handle anything. Nice flat response but only down to about 70hz so a sub really helps with the low end.

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I just want to emphasize that you CANNOT use your computer's builtin sound card -- there is way, way to much electrical noise. You can either use digital out (coax / optical) or USB.

The easiest solution is probably the AudioEngine 2+, which has a sub out for hooking up a sub. I don't love it (I have one).

Another option is to get an external DAC / amp -- the SMSL variations on this theme are popular currently. Look for at least 24b / 192khz decoding all the way up to DSD decoding if you want. Then you can choose whatever speakers you want (I have no suggestions).
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I just want to emphasize that you CANNOT use your computer's builtin sound card -- there is way, way to much electrical noise. You can either use digital out (coax / optical) or USB.

The easiest solution is probably the AudioEngine 2+, which has a sub out for hooking up a sub. I don't love it (I have one).

Another option is to get an external DAC / amp -- the SMSL variations on this theme are popular currently. Look for at least 24b / 192khz decoding all the way up to DSD decoding if you want. Then you can choose whatever speakers you want (I have no suggestions).
This is helpful to me too. Setting up a desktop system trying Dynaudio Xeo 10 that has no USB input. My laptop has only USB and 3.5 mm outs. The 3.5 mm is well known to degrade audio along with the internal laptop DAC. AVS folks (Enrico) recommended ($549 Node 2i) external DAC like you. Crutchfield recommended a $399 Cambridge Audio Magic. Zorba recommended a $15 UGREEN and Geoff recommended a $99 Sabre.

Since the 3.5 mm will still play even if bad, as soon as my speaks arrive I plan to try in the following order and stop when it sounds good:

3.5 mm --> UGREEN dac --> Sabre --> Cambridge --> Node 2i (order of increasing price)
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if you can listen to audioengine I would demo.
Crutchfield recommended Audioengine A6+ ($599?) to me for a desktop system. Is something like that what you mean? they said it should go deep enough for non-bass-heavy music at lower desktop volume while I work. I thought Dynaudio Xeo 10 would be better but haven't actually listened to the Audioengine
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Crutchfield recommended Audioengine A6+ ($599?) to me for a desktop system. Is something like that what you mean? they said it should go deep enough for non-bass-heavy music at lower desktop volume while I work. I thought Dynaudio Xeo 10 would be better but haven't actually listened to the Audioengine

I have the liitle a2+ w/12in sub. they are really good. when you get to bigger speakers, if they sound like the samller ones, I think most would be impressed. they have silk tweets and image really well.
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I have the liitle a2+ w/12in sub. they are really good. when you get to bigger speakers, if they sound like the samller ones, I think most would be impressed. they have silk tweets and image really well.
Do any of them have a USB input such that i won't need a DAC? As someone said in the other thread, smaller woofers on the desk plus sub below the desk may actually look cleaner than 6.5" woofers on the desk....so your A2+ idea sounds good in a way

At many of my friends houses, i have heard very badly integrated subs playing music, such that you hear high freqs from one direction and then bass explosions suddenly startup from the sub, completely ruining the music. Hence, I'm weary of subs for music. I really have no time or patience for much tinkering, wiring, EQ, crawls, etc., to get it right ... i mean I can do a little tinkering but would rather spend time with family or work
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i have these and they have usb in...the newer model adds bluetooth/wireless I think...not sure. excuse my mess https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-A...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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i have these and they have usb in...the newer model adds bluetooth/wireless I think...not sure. excuse my mess https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-A...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Thanks, nice desk, now I recall why I selected Dynaudio Xeo 10 to audition first -- it has active biamping with active crossover on both speakers unlike A2+ and Kanto that have a passive slave...I don't even know if I'll be able to tell the diff but let me try both and report
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