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Replace L/R/C Speakers 1 6.67%
Add a 2nd BIC F-12 0 0%
Replace BIC F-12 11 73.33%
2x Bipoles for Side, Rear, or Overhead 1 6.67%
Floor Towers for Front L/R & Move Bookshelf to Rear Surrounds 1 6.67%
Other (please explaing) 1 6.67%
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Question Need Help! What's Next for Audio Upgrades?

After much deliberation and changing of screen size on the wall, I finally settled on a custom sized screen that will give me a 120" 16:9 picture and a 130" 2.35:1 picture. Now that that's settled, it's time to move on to audio!

I tend to go around in circles on these sorts of thins, so I'd really appreciate any help you guys could give! This will be an ongoing process so my ultimate budget it probably $3-5k, but looking to spend maybe $800-$1200 right now.

All my speakers are from like 2009. See below for my whole setup.

My Equipment

Projector: Epson 5050ub
Screen: Dark Engergy Screens 59"x120" (not here yet)
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V685 7.2
L/R Speakers: 2x Infinity Primus p162 Bookshelf
Center: Infinity Primus PC350
Subwoofer: BIC America F-12
Side/Surrounds: None (though I have one unused Primus p162 laying around).

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1. Replace L/R/C Speakers
These three speakers sound pretty good to me, but they're pretty old. Maybe it's worth replacing them?

2. Add a 2nd BIC F-12
Pretty cheap sub with not great low end, but adding a second for under $300 may be good bang for the buck?

3. Replace BIC F-12
Maybe it's time to replace the BIC altogether with a ported sub in the $500-$800 range.

4. 2x Bipoles for Side/Rear/Overhead?
This is going to be a little challenging with the odd shape of the room and because the joists are perpendicular to the long axis of the room. I was looking at maybe doing a couple of bipole speakers to the left/right of the couch on the wall as high as I could get them. Or alternatively, mounting them on the ceiling slightly behind the couch to just have some dispersed surround.

5. Get Floor Towers for Front L/R & Move Bookshelf to Rear Surrounds
I was thinking that maybe replacing the bookshelf speakers with floor towers might give me a little more oomph. Then I could put two rear surrounds way at the back on top of the fridge our mounted on the ceiling. It would be lacking the side surround effect but being so far back, I don't think that being able to localize the speaker would be an issue.



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$500-800 ported sub (Hsu VTF-3 would be my rec) unless you don't really care much for big budget action/thriller flicks.
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$500-800 ported sub (Hsu VTF-3 would be my rec) unless you don't really care much for big budget action/thriller flicks.
Big budget action/thriller flicks are my jam!
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Sub without question. That's a pretty big space and there's just no way that BIC is energizing the room adequately especially for big booming movies.
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Sub without question. That's a pretty big space and there's just no way that BIC is energizing the room adequately especially for big booming movies.
So if replacing the F-12 with something like a VTF-3 is definitely the way to go, would getting two VTF-3s before I do any of the other options be the next step after that?
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So if replacing the F-12 with something like a VTF-3 is definitely the way to go, would getting two VTF-3s before I do any of the other options be the next step after that?
Yes.

Two VTF-3 would be ideal, though I wouldn't kick 2 VTF-2 out of bed for eating cookies, either.
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Oh that 15H looks pretty nice! Is it actually on sale for Valentine's day at $839 or are they just saying that.

What's the major difference between this and the VTF-3?
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Oh that 15H looks pretty nice! Is it actually on sale for Valentine's day at $839 or are they just saying that.



What's the major difference between this and the VTF-3?
It has a lower port tune 16hz IIRC
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I'm a little surprised there's only one person voting for adding surrounds/rears. Maybe I just overestimated the impact that adding them would have.
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Oh that 15H looks pretty nice! Is it actually on sale for Valentine's day at $839 or are they just saying that.

What's the major difference between this and the VTF-3?
I've always wondered about the sale prices on their stuff. I bought a VTF-15H MK2 around 5 years ago when it was on the normal pricing and I think I paid about the same price as it's current sale price. The only difference is they have raised the shipping cost since then, so that's probably the difference there. If anything it's probably only $50-60 off right now, but it's a phenomenal sub and you'll get years of enjoyment out of it!
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I'm a little surprised there's only one person voting for adding surrounds/rears. Maybe I just overestimated the impact that adding them would have.
I have three vastly different home audio rooms I've set up in recent years, and in each one the most important factor has been the quality of the sub. I do love surround sound, and have 5.1 setups in my theater and game rooms, but in our current living room setup we only run 2.1 speaker setup due to space constraints. It's still a very enjoyable experience, especially after upgrading the sub in that room. The tactile response and LFE that pressurizes the room is a greater experience than rear surrounds will provide. Surrounds are neat for the 10% of most movies that it counts for. Bass is great throughout!
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Two or more "acclaimed" subs is in my opinion is the single most underrated upgrade that will provide the most pleasing sonic improvement to most systems most of the time! If that doesn't get you where you want to be, I recommend you start auditioning new center speakers until you find one you love and want to build the rest of your system around. Enjoy the hunt. Good Luck.
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I'm a little surprised there's only one person voting for adding surrounds/rears. Maybe I just overestimated the impact that adding them would have.
That's because respondents are real users, not greedy salesmen or industry shills who love to hype the "surround" gimmick...the more speakers you think you need, the more money goes into their pockets (plus receivers that can drive 9 or 11 channels rather than 7 will cost an arm and a leg more).
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So if replacing the F-12 with something like a VTF-3 is definitely the way to go, would getting two VTF-3s before I do any of the other options be the next step after that?
Even two VTF1s would crush your current sub.
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I don't know if you guys are a good influence or a bad influence, but I just placed my order for the VTF-15H MK2
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I don't know if you guys are a good influence or a bad influence, but I just placed my order for the VTF-15H MK2
It's a little from column A, a little from column B...

You will be very happy with that sub, I'm sure.

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I don't know if you guys are a good influence or a bad influence, but I just placed my order for the VTF-15H MK2
Thank you so much for ordering our VTF-15H Mk2! I've been corresponding with you over the sales email. Let me know if you have any other questions.

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Even two VTF1s would crush your current sub.
Looks like Hsu no longer makes the VTF-1, the VTF-2 is now their entry-level sub.

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Two VTF-3 would be ideal, though I wouldn't kick 2 VTF-2 out of bed for eating cookies, either.

Voted "Other" - replace BIC with not one, but nice two subs!
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Looks like Hsu no longer makes the VTF-1, the VTF-2 is now their entry-level sub.
Hah, how about that, you are absolutely right.

Have to believe a new VTF1 is coming out but likely coronavirus has interfered with production otherwise the "old" VTF1 would not be on their current site much like the STF1 is not.

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I don't know if you guys are a good influence or a bad influence, but I just placed my order for the VTF-15H MK2
Congrats, I think you are going to be happy with your purchase.
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Hah, how about that, you are absolutely right.

Have to believe a new VTF1 is coming out but likely coronavirus has interfered with production otherwise the "old" VTF1 would not be on their current site much like the STF1 is not.
Interesting...I discovered that while the VTF1 is no longer on the main drop-down menu, it is still on the "Subwoofer Comparison Chart" page and from that page alone, you can still click on a link which takes you to this page, where it appears to still be available:
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-1mk3.html

Wonder if Hsu had a website glitch or if they're trying to "hide" it for some reason.

EDITED: well never mind, when I try to add it to the cart, this message pops up:
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Interesting...I discovered that while the VTF1 is no longer on the main drop-down menu, it is still on the "Subwoofer Comparison Chart" page and from that page alone, you can still click on a link which takes you to this page, where it appears to still be available:
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-1mk3.html

Wonder if Hsu had a website glitch or if they're trying to "hide" it for some reason.

EDITED: well never mind, when I try to add it to the cart, this message pops up:
Maybe they are coming out with a newer model that might be closer to $400 shipped.

Fingers crossed as my sister in law's STF1 is a great sub; I was a bit surprised at just how good it was to be honest.
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That's because respondents are real users, not greedy salesmen or industry shills who love to hype the "surround" gimmick...the more speakers you think you need, the more money goes into their pockets (plus receivers that can drive 9 or 11 channels rather than 7 will cost an arm and a leg more).
Surround "gimmick"? What?? OP should definitely add surrounds to get up to 5.1, especially because he likes action movies. Surrounds are a no-brainer upgrade because they don't have to cost much.

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Thank you so much for ordering our VTF-15H Mk2! I've been corresponding with you over the sales email. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Can you give us an update on the VTF1?

Will there be a replacement coming soon?

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That's because respondents are real users, not greedy salesmen or industry shills who love to hype the "surround" gimmick...the more speakers you think you need, the more money goes into their pockets (plus receivers that can drive 9 or 11 channels rather than 7 will cost an arm and a leg more). [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Surround "gimmick"? What?? OP should definitely add surrounds to get up to 5.1, especially because he likes action movies. Surrounds are a no-brainer upgrade because they don't have to cost much.

These can be tucked about anywhere: "https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/bossoundwareblka/boston-acoustics-soundware-4.5-speaker-atmos-dts-x-on-wall-speaker-black-each/1.html"
These look interesting! At that price I could do the sub and the surrounds. And they look like they’d be easier to mount in my weird locations. But will these little speakers pack enough punch and dispersion?

I was looking at a pair of bipoles for like $300-400 to do the job for the surrounds. But they would be harder to position as they’re pretty big and bulky.
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These look interesting! At that price I could do the sub and the surrounds. And they look like they’d be easier to mount in my weird locations. But will these little speakers pack enough punch and dispersion?

I was looking at a pair of bipoles for like $300-400 to do the job for the surrounds. But they would be harder to position as they’re pretty big and bulky.
Depends how loud you listen. Dispersion will certainly be less than a bipole, but that may not matter as much if you plan to mount up high.

Honestly I can't imagine not having surround speakers in a home theater. The surround effect is incredible in some movies, and you don't need nice rear speakers to achieve it. I use small junky Dayton speakers as surrounds, and they get the job done (but I don't listen loud).

If you've got your heart set on those bipoles, this is what I'd do:
1) Do the sub upgrade suggested by others
2) Go buy/find some cheap/free crappy bookshelf speakers and use them as surrounds for now.
3) When funds allow, replace the crappy speakers with your bipoles. Or find another Primus P162 so that all your speakers are timbre matched. You may find that you are happy at step 2 and could put the $400 toward a different upgrade.

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