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Replacing Home Theater System--What First?

Looking to upgrade my home theater system after at least a decade of the status quo. Here’s what I’m working with:

Sony STR DE945 receiver/amp
Polk Monitor 10B front speakers with stands
Polk CS-10 center speaker
Sony SA-W2500 subwoofer
No rear surround speakers (yet) because of challenging wiring problems.

The room is 14 ft. wide by 22 ft. long by 8 ft. but the seating area is about 8 feet from the TV screen.

I bought my Sony receiver off Craigslist 10 years ago and it’s plagued with intermittent problems—one front speaker channel will drop out. A “love tap” on the side of the cabinet will restore that channel. I’ve taken it apart twice so far and found cold solder joints that I’ve reflowed. This repair works for a couple of years and then it recurs. I think it’s time to move on...looking at Yamaha V685 or similar. I see the Yamaha V683 (last year’s model) is $270 less.

I love my Polk Monitor 10B speakers. I’m the original owner. They still sound great but they look rather dated and they’re so darn big. I’m thinking floor standing towers, but undecided on what to get. I’m kind of leaning toward Polk Signature S55’s but it’s just an idea. I would like the Polk S60’s but for budgetary reasons.

Polk CS-10 center speaker is fine, IMO.

The Sony 10” subwoofer is really there to fill in some bass notes, mostly for movies, but it also does OK for music. My college-aged son thinks I should start replacing components by first getting a good subwoofer. A 12” (minimum) with at least 350 watts. He says that will make my system sound much better and give it a totally new dimension in sound. Good subwoofers are not inexpensive so I’ve been looking on Craigslist for a used SVS or a Hsu Research, but it’s been barren. Other suggestions on subwoofers are welcomed.

I’d like to keep the total budget to $1,500 or less. I figure I can start replacing components one at a time and see how it changes the sound dynamic.

If you were going to replace components, where would you start and why? Receiver? Front speakers? Subwoofer?
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Looking to upgrade my home theater system after at least a decade of the status quo. Here’s what I’m working with:

Sony STR DE945 receiver/amp
Polk Monitor 10B front speakers with stands
Polk CS-10 center speaker
Sony SA-W2500 subwoofer
No rear surround speakers (yet) because of challenging wiring problems.

The room is 14 ft. wide by 22 ft. long by 8 ft. but the seating area is about 8 feet from the TV screen.

I bought my Sony receiver off Craigslist 10 years ago and it’s plagued with intermittent problems—one front speaker channel will drop out. A “love tap” on the side of the cabinet will restore that channel. I’ve taken it apart twice so far and found cold solder joints that I’ve reflowed. This repair works for a couple of years and then it recurs. I think it’s time to move on...looking at Yamaha V685 or similar. I see the Yamaha V683 (last year’s model) is $270 less.

I love my Polk Monitor 10B speakers. I’m the original owner. They still sound great but they look rather dated and they’re so darn big. I’m thinking floor standing towers, but undecided on what to get. I’m kind of leaning toward Polk Signature S55’s but it’s just an idea. I would like the Polk S60’s but for budgetary reasons.

Polk CS-10 center speaker is fine, IMO.

The Sony 10” subwoofer is really there to fill in some bass notes, mostly for movies, but it also does OK for music. My college-aged son thinks I should start replacing components by first getting a good subwoofer. A 12” (minimum) with at least 350 watts. He says that will make my system sound much better and give it a totally new dimension in sound. Good subwoofers are not inexpensive so I’ve been looking on Craigslist for a used SVS or a Hsu Research, but it’s been barren. Other suggestions on subwoofers are welcomed.

I’d like to keep the total budget to $1,500 or less. I figure I can start replacing components one at a time and see how it changes the sound dynamic.

If you were going to replace components, where would you start and why? Receiver? Front speakers? Subwoofer?
Your son is on the right track. A good sub will make a huge difference. You could do quite well with that budget and have a very nice sounding setup.

Option #1
HSU Hybrid 2 3.1 package.
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid2mk5pkg.html

Option #2
Chane A1.5 & A2.4 With HSU VTF-2 MK5
https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/ind...egory&path=100

Option #3
Emotiva T0 & C1 with HSU sub
https://emotiva.com/collections/loud...rmotiv-t0-pair
https://emotiva.com/collections/loud...ed-airmotiv-c1

This Denon has all the latest features and good room correction. It will easily drive any setup you choose.
https://www.accessories4less.com/mak...-w/heos/1.html

Use your current speakers as surrounds and upgrade them later if you feel you need to.
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I agree, start with receiver first, then sub.

From there you have tons of choices.

A good project for you and your son might be building your own speakers. DIYsoundgroup.com has tons of options and there are other options out there.

It really depends what you want out of the system and your use for it.

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Yes, old AV receiver and having trouble with it, get a decent receiver with audessey! And second the sub next idea. Just don't make my mistake...after buying about 4 subs in the 200-400 dollar range, I came to the conclusion that no sub that lists for less than 500 dollars is worth the money (new) and that the real good, value subwoofers are made NOT by speaker makers, but by companies who specialize in subwoofers- SVS, HSU (I know, they have speakers too), Outlaw, Rythmiks, PSA...all got their name on subwoofers!
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If you were going to replace components, where would you start and why? Receiver? Front speakers? Subwoofer?
The recommended path is usually Center/Sub first, then work your way outwards. AVR should be the last thing you upgrade.

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Given that you're having problems with the receiver I'd go with upgrading that first but a sub should follow quickly without question.
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A bargain 12" sub the SVS SB12-NSD is available from Amazon for $400. At this price it would be hard to find something better.

https://www.amazon.com/SVS-SB12-NSD-...2261635&sr=8-3
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I’d like to keep the total budget to $1,500 or less. I figure I can start replacing components one at a time and see how it changes the sound dynamic.

If you were going to replace components, where would you start and why? Receiver? Front speakers? Subwoofer?
You can do many things at once for $1500.

This is an excellent receiver; a bargain at $349.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-Receive...SAJ7WWH01397XY

One of these subs.

5 years 400watts =17w21hx22d= 66 lbs 12" [19hz] $500 SVS PB12 NSD, Amazon (extension from Sound & Vision Review)

5 years 500watts =15w19h20d= 72 lbs 10" [20hz] $500 MONOPRICE MONOLITH THX 10"

3 years 300watts =16w22h21d= 69 lbs* 12" [19hz] $599 RHYTHMIK LV12F

2 years 350watts =15w21h22d= 62 lbs 12" [18hz] $607 HSU VTF2 MK5, (extension from Audioholics review)

As you like Polk, a pair of these for $239 with $10/box returns within 60 days if not happy, available in 2 finishes.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RTI...A3-Cherry.html

$199 matching center with same return policy.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107CSI...ry.html?tp=189
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You can do many things at once for $1500.

This is an excellent receiver; a bargain at $349.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-Receive...SAJ7WWH01397XY
Why the Denon AVRX2500 instead of the Yamaha RX-V683? Curious...


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One of these subs.

5 years 400watts =17w21hx22d= 66 lbs 12" [19hz] $500 SVS PB12 NSD, Amazon (extension from Sound & Vision Review)

5 years 500watts =15w19h20d= 72 lbs 10" [20hz] $500 MONOPRICE MONOLITH THX 10"

3 years 300watts =16w22h21d= 69 lbs* 12" [19hz] $599 RHYTHMIK LV12F

2 years 350watts =15w21h22d= 62 lbs 12" [18hz] $607 HSU VTF2 MK5, (extension from Audioholics review)

That SVS PB12 NSD (12" driver, 400 watts, rolls off at 22 Hz) model is no longer available, bummer. I like the SVS brand. The replacement model is either the PB-1000 (10" driver, 300 watts, rolls off at about 27 Hz,) $499, or the SVS PB-2000 (12" driver, 550 watts, rolls off at 20 Hz, has app for your phone) $799.

I don't think the PB-1000 is going to light my fire. The PB-2000, at $800 is kind of pricey. I will research some more. That Hsu VTF-2 MK5 looks interesting and it's $539 from the manufacturer.


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As you like Polk, a pair of these for $239 with $10/box returns within 60 days if not happy, available in 2 finishes.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RTI...A3-Cherry.html

$199 matching center with same return policy.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107CSI...ry.html?tp=189
I've pretty much decided I want towers because they will move more air and also for aesthetic reasons. What are some competitors to the Polk Signature S55?

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That SVS PB12 NSD (12" driver, 400 watts, rolls off at 22 Hz) model is no longer available, bummer. I like the SVS brand. The replacement model is either the PB-1000 (10" driver, 300 watts, rolls off at about 27 Hz,) $499, or the SVS PB-2000 (12" driver, 550 watts, rolls off at 20 Hz, has app for your phone) $799.

I don't think the PB-1000 is going to light my fire. The PB-2000, at $800 is kind of pricey. I will research some more. That Hsu looks interesting.




I've pretty much decided I want towers because they will move more air and also for aesthetic reasons. What are some competitors to the Polk Signature S55?
I've never heard anyone on AVS claim Yamaha YPAO is better than Audyssey for EQ.

The HSU VTF2 has more EQ options than any SVS or Monoprice.

As you must have towers I'd just replace the receiver and sub with your budget.

Are you located near any of these guys?

ACCESSORIES 4 LESS*** NEAR ORLANDO FLORIDA
APERION* NEAR PORTLAND OREGON
ASCEND** NEAR LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA
CHANE TAMPA FLORIDA
CRUTCHFIELD*** CHARLOTTESVILLE VIRGINIA
DEEP SEA SOUND SUBS NEAR KNOXVILLE TENNESSEE
DIYSOUND GROUP CINCINNATI OHIO
EMOTIVA NEAR NASHVILLE TENNESSEE
HI FI HEAVEN*** GREEN BAY WISONSIN
HSU NEAR LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA
HTD* NEAR DALLAS TEXAS
JTR NEAR MILWAUKEE WISCONSIN
MONOPRICE NEAR RIVERSIDE CALIFORNIA
MUSIC DIRECT*** CHICAGO ILLINOIS
NHT NEAR SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA
OHM BROOKLYN NEW YORK
PSA NEAR YOUNGSTOWN OHIO
RBH NEAR SALT LAKE CITY UTAH
RHYTHMIK SUBS NEAR AUSTIN TEXAS
RSL* NEAR LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA
SALK AUDIO PONTIAC MICHIGAN
SATURDAY AUDIO--- CHICAGO ILLINOIS
SEATON SOUND NEAR CHICAGO ILLINOIS
SELAH AUDIO NEAR RALEIGH NORTH CAROLINA
SVS* YOUNGSTOWN OHIO
TEKTON NEAR PROVO UTAH
TYLER ACOUSTICS NEAR LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY
WORLDWIDE STEREO*** NEAR PHILADELPHIA PENNSYLVANIA

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FUNK AUDIO NEAR VANCOUVER CANADA
PARADIGM NEAR TORONTO CANADA
PSB NEAR TORONTO CANADA
TOTEM NEAR MONTREAL CANADA
* free return shipping but not always on towers
**Ascend also carries Rhythmik subwoofers on site
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That SVS PB12 NSD (12" driver, 400 watts, rolls off at 22 Hz) model is no longer available, bummer. I like the SVS brand. The replacement model is either the PB-1000 (10" driver, 300 watts, rolls off at about 27 Hz,) $499, or the SVS PB-2000 (12" driver, 550 watts, rolls off at 20 Hz, has app for your phone) $799.



I don't think the PB-1000 is going to light my fire. The PB-2000, at $800 is kind of pricey. I will research some more. That Hsu VTF-2 MK5 looks interesting and it's $539 from the manufacturer.









I've pretty much decided I want towers because they will move more air and also for aesthetic reasons. What are some competitors to the Polk Signature S55?


You’re on the right path with a sub. Don’t settle for one that’s less than 12”. I would get the HSU sub. Audyssey is better than yamaha for sub eq purposes. Denon and Marantz guarantee a certain amt of watts from each channel with all channels driven. It’s like 70% of stated for 2 channels. Yamaha power drops off more with multi channel. Try to get audyssey 32xt if you can with your AVR.


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I've never heard anyone on AVS claim Yamaha YPAO is better than Audyssey for EQ.
Exactly what my son said: Audyssey is better than Ypao, and Denon is generally easier to setup and use.

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It's looking promising.

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As you must have towers I'd just replace the receiver and sub with your budget.
Budget is $1,500. Hsu sub = $539. Denon receiver = $349. I have a lot of $$ remaining.

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HI FI HEAVEN*** GREEN BAY WISONSIN
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SEATON SOUND NEAR CHICAGO ILLINOIS
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I'm in Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Are you asking to reduce shipping charges and/or for returns?
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In my humble opinion, your speakers and your amps are the heart of your system. What do you listen to most? Your front speakers. Start there.
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one thing to consider with the new receiver is the wireless ecosystem. Denon=HEOS, Yamaha=Musicast. I have/use HEOS, daily. app control is the feature you never knew you needed before you started using it.

Supposedly, the Yamaha receivers will allow you to use the wireless speakers as your surrounds. I have never used or set up a Yamaha/musicast receiver. So that is something to consider.

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Audyssey vs. Ypao. This can't be the deciding factor, is it? Once you get your system set up, will you ever use these tools again?

Looking around this forum, the consensus seems to be that Audyssey can tune your subwoofer to below 30 Hz; apparently Ypao can't go below 30 Hz. Since subwoofer size is going to limit the ideal placement, is this 30 Hz barrier a big deal?

What about reliability, sound quality, features?

I see that the Denon will not accept a video analog signal input and convert it to HDMI. The Yamaha does. I might actually use that feature.

As for power, the Yamaha says 150 total watts, the Denon says 95 watts per channel. Well, for the Yamaha 70% of 150 watts is 105 watts per channel.

Decisions, decisions...
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one thing to consider with the new receiver is the wireless ecosystem. Denon=HEOS, Yamaha=Musicast. I have/use HEOS, daily. app control is the feature you never knew you needed before you started using it.

Supposedly, the Yamaha receivers will allow you to use the wireless speakers as your surrounds. I have never used or set up a Yamaha/musicast receiver. So that is something to consider.

Good luck
The 2020 Yamaha mid-range receiver, RX-V685 will let you go wireless on the rear surrounds; the 2018-2019 model I'm looking at, the RX-V683 will not. Since I'm planning on mounting my rear surrounds on a wall, so running power wires for wireless speakers would be problematic.

From what I can gather the Denon HEOS system will let you use any brand wireless speaker whereas with the Yahama MusicCast you must use Yamaha MusicCast wireless speakers. Is that correct? This may or may not be a factor, I guess it depends on what else the MusicCast speakers can do compared to any other wireless speaker.
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In my humble opinion, your speakers and your amps are the heart of your system. What do you listen to most? Your front speakers. Start there.
Usually I would agree with you, but my front speakers, Polk Monitor 10B's, are the strongest part of my overall system. I've had them for 30 years and they still sound great. I'm kind of curious to hear what they sound like paired to a new receiver and a new sub. I can always swap them out later. My receiver is (literally) broken and my sub is basically a toy.
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The 2020 Yamaha mid-range receiver, RX-V685 will let you go wireless on the rear surrounds; the 2018-2019 model I'm looking at, the RX-V683 will not. Since I'm planning on mounting my rear surrounds on a wall, so running power wires for wireless speakers would be problematic.

From what I can gather the Denon HEOS system will let you use any brand wireless speaker whereas with the Yahama MusicCast you must use Yamaha MusicCast wireless speakers. Is that correct? This may or may not be a factor, I guess it depends on what else the MusicCast speakers can do compared to any other wireless speaker.
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Budget is $1,500. Hsu sub = $539. Denon receiver = $349. I have a lot of $$ remaining.
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Audyssey vs. Ypao. This can't be the deciding factor, is it? Once you get your system set up, will you ever use these tools again?
You will use it ("it" being the EQ filters applied to your system to correct your in-room frequency response) every single time you listen to the system.


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Looking around this forum, the consensus seems to be that Audyssey can tune your subwoofer to below 30 Hz; apparently Ypao can't go below 30 Hz. Since subwoofer size is going to limit the ideal placement, is this 30 Hz barrier a big deal?
Under 30Hz is where a whole lot of movie sound effects live. If you don't ever watch action movies, then maybe not a concern for you.


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What about reliability, sound quality, features?
Yamaha is said to have a slight edge in reliability, but to be honest, all the top AVR manufacturers are pretty dang reliable.
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Yes, I agree.







Audyssey vs. Ypao. This can't be the deciding factor, is it? Once you get your system set up, will you ever use these tools again?



Looking around this forum, the consensus seems to be that Audyssey can tune your subwoofer to below 30 Hz; apparently Ypao can't go below 30 Hz. Since subwoofer size is going to limit the ideal placement, is this 30 Hz barrier a big deal?



What about reliability, sound quality, features?



I see that the Denon will not accept a video analog signal input and convert it to HDMI. The Yamaha does. I might actually use that feature.



As for power, the Yamaha says 150 total watts, the Denon says 95 watts per channel. Well, for the Yamaha 70% of 150 watts is 105 watts per channel.



Decisions, decisions...


Yes, room correction is a big deal and absolutely below 30hz is important. Most good to great subs are tuned to have decent output down to 20hz. Amazing subs are tuned down to single digits. Also, the room impacts what you hear more than anything after the speakers themselves. You’re right that it’s something you don’t mess with once the initial calibration is done “correctly”. There are best practices to doing a calibration properly and it does matter and the adjustments after the calibration matter as well. There’s two threads dedicated to audyssey for calibration and best practices, recommended tweaks, etc. The room isn’t the only factor as I mentioned. Power when driving multiple speakers matters as well. Of course you need to look at the initial claimed output and whether it’s all channels driven, 2 channels, & apparently some are quoted as 1 channel driven now. The denon is definitely not 95 watts all channels driven. Likely 2 channels driven. I personally prefer marantz as I think they their AVRs with HDAMs make a difference to my hears in terms less edge to the sound. YMMV. I haven’t taken time to compare the models you’re looking at. Just trying to provide general guidelines. You should definitely consider the features that are most important to you in selecting a AVR. Hope all that helps.


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Usually I would agree with you, but my front speakers, Polk Monitor 10B's, are the strongest part of my overall system. I've had them for 30 years and they still sound great. I'm kind of curious to hear what they sound like paired to a new receiver and a new sub. I can always swap them out later. My receiver is (literally) broken and my sub is basically a toy.
Gotcha! Guess I didn't read your whole post. Sorry about that!
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Here's my advice, along with a few reasons why.

1) You *need* an AVR, so start there. Given your budget, I'd go with a Denon X3500 from Accessories4Less, about $500.

Why: Audyssey XT32 and Sub EQ HT. XT32 will let you limit eq to below Schroeder frequency of around 300 Hz or so....this is ideal for sound quality with well designed speakers. Full range eq is generally not a great idea unless you have lousy speakers.
Sub EQ HT does a fantastic job eq'ing single or dual subs. This will make a big difference for sound quality.

2) I agree with the Hsu VTF2.5 given your budget. If budget allows VTF3.5 would be even better.

3) For speakers, although I generally think bookshelves on stands are a silly idea and prefer towers, I would go with three Ascend 340's. These are a larger stand mount, dual woofer speaker....Ascend sells matching stands that give the appearance of a tower speaker.

I think this would come in close to your budget, maybe a little over, but would be an *extremely* capable system for the money, one that would require a large increase in budget for any appreciable upgrade.
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Here's my advice, along with a few reasons why.

1) You *need* an AVR, so start there. Given your budget, I'd go with a Denon X3500 from Accessories4Less, about $500.

Why: Audyssey XT32 and Sub EQ HT. XT32 will let you limit eq to below Schroeder frequency of around 300 Hz or so....this is ideal for sound quality with well designed speakers. Full range eq is generally not a great idea unless you have lousy speakers.
Sub EQ HT does a fantastic job eq'ing single or dual subs. This will make a big difference for sound quality.
Crutchfield has new 3500H's for $549.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AVX...0H.html?tp=179
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I'm in Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Are you asking to reduce shipping charges and/or for returns?
To audition speakers and maybe even bring floor models home which is what I did when I bought my towers.

Picked the floor models up the afternoon before they closed for two days, returned them in the AM when the opened.

Didn't buy the floor models but bought same model in a different finish.

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I don't think the PB-1000 is going to light my fire. The PB-2000, at $800 is kind of pricey. I will research some more. That Hsu VTF-2 MK5 looks interesting and it's $539 from the manufacturer.
I would look at the Rythmik LV12-F ... costs just a little less than the VTF-2 when you include shipping.

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