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Torn between KEF R300 and Klipsch RP-600M

So I've done quite some research on which speakers I want and it comes down to these two models. There's no possibility for me to listen to the R300's but I could try out the RP-600's,although it would be quite a hassle.

I will be using them for stereo music listening as well as in surround for HT use (will add rears, center and sub later).

As for music, i mostly listen to jazz (mostly tenor sax) and rock (Pink Floyd and the likes).

I will be placing them in a room that measures around 20m² and I can position them maximum 25cm from the back wall (approx. 1m from the side wall).

The will be amplified by an Onkyo TX-NR906.

Based on this info, which speaker would you recommend?

Thanks so much on advance!
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So I've done quite some research on which speakers I want and it comes down to these two models. There's no possibility for me to listen to the R300's but I could try out the RP-600's,although it would be quite a hassle.

I will be using them for stereo music listening as well as in surround for HT use (will add rears, center and sub later).

As for music, i mostly listen to jazz (mostly tenor sax) and rock (Pink Floyd and the likes).

I will be placing them in a room that measures around 20m² and I can position them maximum 25cm from the back wall (approx. 1m from the side wall).

The will be amplified by an Onkyo TX-NR906.
The R300 would be the safer bet, but it's very overpriced for $1800/pr.

Why would trying out the RP600 be "quite a hassle"---are you in the US, or Canada?

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Measurements are a good indication of a speakers sound quality. I’d personally pass on the Klipsch if good sound quality is the objective:


https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...-review.12138/


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KEF R300, hands absolutely down. Not even a question in my mind.
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That's like comparing a Toyota corolla(rp600m) to a Lexus IS-F(R300)
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I know I’m new around here but during my research for new HT equipment , when I also discovered this awesome forum by the way , I read numerous reviews of the RP-600’s. Almost all positive. I bought them along with a Marantz NR 1609 and currently running just a 2 channel system for now but I’m absolutely blown away by the sound. Now to be fair I had a 15 year old Yamaha receiver with a Bose cube system so maybe anything would sound this good.

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The R300 is the better music speaker. Much more balance and detailed. Killer midrange and imaging. Different league of speaker.

Rp600m is not a bad speaker for its price and has a very lively sound.

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you want good value ?.. check out stuff like ascend sierra 2ex, salk bmr ,maybe revel speakers .. forget the klipsch if you have 2 grand budget .. you can do way better .. between the 2 you listed it's not even close from what i can tell..
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Thanks for the the suggestions. It confirms what I already thought.

Yesterday I got a brief chance to listen to a pair of Dali Oberon 3's. Those sounded (and looked) great but I guess the Kef's are still the better choice, right?

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Thanks for the the suggestions. It confirms what I already thought.

Yesterday I got a brief chance to listen to a pair of Dali Oberon 3's. Those sounded (and looked) great but I guess the Kef's are still the better choice, right?

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The best choice is what sounds the best to your ears. Have you heard the R300s yet? Demoing is the best way to shop for speakers because we all have different preferences. I would try and get 2-3 pairs that you can demo at home and then return the ones you don't like.
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Trying to demo a bunch of speakers in showrooms is not the best way to select speakers, and it is not as subjective and different from person to person as many think. Yes, it’s a commonly held belief. No, it’s not entirely true. Research has shown that, *with accurate testing*, the vast majority of people all prefer the same basic thing: accurate, neutral speakers with excellent on and off axis response. So fortunately, you can rule out many speakers that have poor measurements and will naturally not sound as good as speakers that measure better.

So, find speakers in your price range that have excellent measured performance. Narrow things down to your preference of bookshelf or towers, output and extension capability, sensitivity, power handling and aesthetics. If you still have more than one speaker left to choose from, finally do a demo in your home of the narrowed down choices.


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Yesterday I got a brief chance to listen to a pair of Dali Oberon 3's. Those sounded (and looked) great but I guess the Kef's are still the better choice, right?
Only YOUR ears, listening under the unique room acoustic conditions of YOUR room, can answer that question.

Measurements, reviewers' opinions, and pricepoints don't mean squat in comparison.
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You may have a difficult time trying to find accurate measurements. They will tell you how the frequencies are responding in a controlled test environment. Beyond that you should try to listen to as many as possible in home.
Good measurements are not a guarantee that you will like the sound of a speaker. Go to the Revel forum and see how a Revel salesman responded when it was noted that an inexpensive pair of Infinity's measured comparably to Revels costing multiple thousands of $. He could only say that although they measure similar they will not sound as good as the expensive ones.
Hope that you do not get measurement paralysis like some others.
They will preach about blind testing. However, most have not heard the speakers that they criticize and only have very limited experience at listening to various brands.
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