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Getting New Computer Speakers and Need a DAC

I am looking to upgrade the computer speakers in my home office and want to get really good sounding speakers for the Computer for music listening.

I've been doing research listening to demo's on YouTube and I really like the Edifier S2000 Pro Speakers. I like the mids and the highs are not too bright. They are at the top of my list so far in my budget range.

The one problem is, I believe I'm going to need a DAC because my computer is a Dell 8930 with the sound built on the motherboard.

What would be a good DAC to buy without breaking the bank?
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I'm not sure about a DAC but am I reading correctly that you are performing listening tests to the speakers via YouTube?
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I'm not sure about a DAC but am I reading correctly that you are performing listening tests to the speakers via YouTube?
Yes plus been reading lots of reviews and what I heard matches what the reviewers have said
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What would be a good DAC to buy without breaking the bank?
Something like this $21 device is all you need:
https://www.amazon.com/Signstek-Coax...dp/B00FEDHHKE/
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Yes plus been reading lots of reviews and what I heard matches what the reviewers have said

If at all possible see what you can do to audition in person. By listening on YouTube you are hearing the speaker passed through a microphone, recorded at who-knows-what resolution, uploaded to the internet, and played back on your existing system. That's pretty much a recipe for disaster as far as knowing what they actually sound like. It would be akin to me taking a picture of a photograph with the camera on my phone then emailing it to you for you to view on your computer. The colors and saturation would be significantly different from where they started.


Can you find them on sale somewhere that offers a good return policy so you can get them into your home office?
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I am looking to upgrade the computer speakers in my home office and want to get really good sounding speakers for the Computer for music listening.

I've been doing research listening to demo's on YouTube and I really like the Edifier S2000 Pro Speakers. I like the mids and the highs are not too bright. They are at the top of my list so far in my budget range.

The one problem is, I believe I'm going to need a DAC because my computer is a Dell 8930 with the sound built on the motherboard.

What would be a good DAC to buy without breaking the bank?
I have always heard nothing but good things about the JBL Professional 305P MkII.
When I was doing research for similar speakers 4-5 years ago they (JBL 305p) kept popping up in almost every thread I read.
I personally went with the Emotiva Airmotiv 5 which are no longer in production.

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Something like this $21 device is all you need:
https://www.amazon.com/Signstek-Coax...dp/B00FEDHHKE/
Thanks! I thought I was going to have to spend quite a bit more money when I was googling DAC's. There are some really expensive DAC's out there.
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Thanks! I thought I was going to have to spend quite a bit more money when I was googling DAC's. There are some really expensive DAC's out there.
Just the usual audiophool snake oil, like $200/ft power cables, interconnects or speaker cables.
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Yes, there is absolutely NOTHING you can learn about how a speaker sounds by you tube. You can learn about feature, build quality, etc, but you are at the mercy of the reviewer. A couple years ago, I saw a you tube review of my Philharmonic BMR speakers on you tube, played on my Phil BMRs and what the guy was playing sounded completely different than whenI played it on the Phil BMRs...
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I really like my Topping D30 DAC. Does DSD and measures very well.

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Yes, there is absolutely NOTHING you can learn about how a speaker sounds by you tube. You can learn about feature, build quality, etc, but you are at the mercy of the reviewer.
Truer words have never been spoken!
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Truer words have never been spoken!
Understandable to try and listen before one buys, but there are no places locally that carry most of these speakers, plus with the state of the country, there are no stores open either.
There are places that have 30 days returns etc as an option.


Here is the Youtube channel that at least helps in the process. I realize its not perfect but its a help:

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In order last to first
4. Listen on you tube...a very low last.

3. Listen at a store like Best buy or some local AV store. Best Buy has limited selections and terrible acoustics and often local AV store any carry certain dealer brands and often have rooms with perfect acoustics, unlike most of our rooms.

2. Maybe you have a friend/family/Fellow AVS member with the speakers you are interested in...and willing to let you listen.

1. YOUR house/your room WAY BETTER than any of the options listed above. The smartest strategy is to budget a couple hundred dollars as return money and order from companies that have the 30 day return policy and then compare the speakers in your room, with your ears and at the same time! This will help you with the what if factor...let say you always wanted Sierra 2 or PSA MT110s (very different speakers but reasonably similar in price)...if you just bought one, liked it and kept it, you would never know if you choose correctly. If you ordered both, listen carefully for a couple weeks and then sent back the least good speaker, you will always have piece of mind that between those two speakers, you chose correctly. it will ding your credit car temporarily...then spend 100 sending back the pair you didn't like and all is good. That can be more expensive with tower speakers.
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Why do you think that you need a DAC?

Your PC has a built-in Realtek audio device, with a stereo output. Perhaps you should give it a try before spending any funds. You may find it adequate, unless you're a serious audiophile.

I admit that I'm using a pair of Kef Eggs with a USB connection (digital signal). The sound chip on the motherboard isn't used. They have a subwoofer output, which I'm using with an 8" Sunfire sub. Accessories4less has cerified Egg refurbs for $300.
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What are the type and resolution of the source files that you want to play?

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Topping, Schiit, SMSL are some of the cheaper but good dac's according to the many reviews out their.

Check this site to see what features you need and the budget you have and then search the web for reviews.
https://apos.audio/collections/dac-d...alog-converter

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The Schiit Modi 3 DAC is supposed to be very good for $100.

Made in the USA and has a 2 year warranty, if that means something to you.

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