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I have Energy Take 5.1 speakers, which I am happy with. The center is an Energy CC-5. I have to replace it (someone damaged it). Would upgrade to Energy CC-10 be compatible with the original front and rear speakers?
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I have Energy Take 5.1 speakers, which I am happy with. The center is an Energy CC-5. I have to replace it (someone damaged it). Would upgrade to Energy CC-10 be compatible with the original front and rear speakers?
ANY center speaker will be "compatible"---especially if you're just using the center for HT/TV not multi-channel music. The question is how good of a center the CC10 is...does it provide effortless voice clarity (so that you don't have to keep turning up the volume to understand dialogue) and tonal realism (do male voices sound "male" or do they sound like chipmunks?).

I'd get the CC-10 if you were 100% happy with the CC-5 and have a good return option behind it.

If not, I'd spend an extra $150 to get an Emotiva C1.

The center does 70-80% of the HT output and 99% of the dialogue, so it's the true backbone of any HT setup...it's the last place I would take any chances or cut corners.
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ANY center speaker will be "compatible"---especially if you're just using the center for HT/TV not multi-channel music. The question is how good of a center the CC10 is...does it provide effortless voice clarity (so that you don't have to keep turning up the volume to understand dialogue) and tonal realism (do male voices sound "male" or do they sound like chipmunks?).

I'd get the CC-10 if you were 100% happy with the CC-5 and have a good return option behind it.

If not, I'd spend an extra $150 to get an Emotiva C1.

The center does 70-80% of the HT output and 99% of the dialogue, so it's the true backbone of any HT setup...it's the last place I would take any chances or cut corners.
In a post I can't find now I asked about NHT Super Center vs. RSL C23. You commented there have been issues with the NHT Center (something along those lines). Could you elaborate. I am now deciding between NHT SuperZero and Center vs. RSL CG3 and CG23. The NHT is better on paper but we don't listen to paper. I will "test drive" both unless there is other info to consider. (BTW, have you ever listened to the Martin Logan Motion 2i? I listened to the Motion 4i and liked it but I can't find the 2i in a store.)
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In a post I can't find now I asked about NHT Super Center vs. RSL C23. You commented there have been issues with the NHT Center (something along those lines). Could you elaborate. I am now deciding between NHT SuperZero and Center vs. RSL CG3 and CG23. The NHT is better on paper but we don't listen to paper. I will "test drive" both unless there is other info to consider. (BTW, have you ever listened to the Martin Logan Motion 2i? I listened to the Motion 4i and liked it but I can't find the 2i in a store.)
Well, the NHT and ML speakers are available from Amazon, which means they're easily returnable esp. if you're a Prime member.

RSL provides free return shipping for all its speakers.

The ML is also available at Crutchfield, IIRC, which means $10 flat rate returns.

If you require small size but want the fewest compromises, I'd suggest the Ascend 200SE...but you'd have to pay for return shipping.

Easiest thing and best bet would be to go with full sized speakers, 5.25" woofer or larger. No getting around the laws of physics.

For the $470 which an RSL CG23 plus 2 x CG3, you could get for example a pair of Emotiva B1+ with C1+ center for $450 which would kill all of the speakers above.

PS. The Emotivas have similar AMT tweeters as the MLs, just not the pretty cabinets and inflated pricetags.

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Well, the NHT and ML speakers are available from Amazon, which means they're easily returnable esp. if you're a Prime member.

RSL provides free return shipping for all its speakers.

The ML is also available at Crutchfield, IIRC, which means $10 flat rate returns.

If you require small size but want the fewest compromises, I'd suggest the Ascend 200SE...but you'd have to pay for return shipping.

Easiest thing and best bet would be to go with full sized speakers, 5.25" woofer or larger. No getting around the laws of physics.

For the $470 which an RSL CG23 plus 2 x CG3, you could get for example a pair of Emotiva B1+ with C1+ center for $450 which would kill all of the speakers above.

PS. The Emotivas have similar AMT tweeters as the MLs, just not the pretty cabinets and inflated pricetags.
I am really now focusing specifically on whether there is something about the NHT super center. (I am available for private email if you prefer.) I've seen the ascend mentioned and will look at emotivas. Thanks. Considering the last speakers I bought was in 2003 I'm not going to let $20 drive my decision.
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I am really now focusing specifically on whether there is something about the NHT super center.
All I can tell you is, I'd guesstimate close to half of the folks who've tried them and reported on this forum, are not thrilled shall we say.

If you want to take your chances, that's what return policies are for.

If you're dead set on the SuperZeros because of their pricing, I'd sooner take a single NHT C1 as your center if you believe in the "timbre matching" hoo-ha.

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All I can tell you is, I'd guesstimate close to half of the folks who've tried them and reported on this forum, are not thrilled shall we say.

If you want to take your chances, that's what return policies are for.

If you're dead set on the SuperZeros because of their pricing, I'd sooner take a single NHT C1 as your center if you believe in the "timbre matching" hoo-ha.
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