Originally Posted by tribesdude
Hello everyone! It has been like 5 years since I have set up my budget home theater system and I am now looking to upgrade it a little bit. My current setup is the following:
Front: Pioneer FS SP52
Center: Pioneer SP C22
Subwoofer: Jbl ES250P
Receiver: Denon S500BT
The room it will be setup is the living room (1br apartment) and I would guess that the total size of the living room is 500 to 600 (complete guess on my part). The ceiling is probably 10 feet tall and it's a popcorn ceiling. The couch is around 6 to 8 feet away from the TV/speaker setup. TV is setup next to den/sunroom with window door that slides (not sure if any of this matters but just in case haha).
The center was a super recent impulse addition admittedly (saw it on sale for 70ish and figured why note and got it without doing research figuring they were good. I am satisfied with them but have been reading on here that they are not great)
Primarily I want to upgrade in order to have an atmos setup and rear speakers. I am budgeting around 1200 for this (give or take, obviously less is better haha) and am currently thinking of the following:
Receiver: Either the Yamaha Rx V685 or Yamaha Rx A780 (they are the same price now so A780 makes more sense I think)
Rear: 2x Yamaha Musiccast 20 wireless speakers. I can not run long cables in the place for several reasons. A) current place is a rental and this will be setup in a living room and b) girlfriend would not approve of wires running around the floor or ceiling so wireless is my only option.
Front Height: This is the main area where I am not sure about. For similar reasons as for the rears I really can't have wires running around nor can I install speakers in a ceiling. So I am mostly looking at up firing speakers. These are the ones I am considering: elac debut 2.0 a4, pioneer sp-t22a-lr, klipsch r-41sa, klipsch rp500sa, svs elevation prime.
From the height ones I am strongly leaning towards the elac (seems like a good price/performance tradeoff but not sure). Would be fairly simply as well to just plop on top of my towers. That being said, I am also considering the klipsch and the svs because I am figuring maybe I could use them as up firing for now, and once we move to a different place (whenever that happens) I could then install those on the wall angled down. The issue is that from what I have been seeing, dimension wise, both the klipsch ones and the svs are longer/wider than my pioneer towers so they would be overhanging them which a) does not look great but more importantly b) could potentially negatively impact the performance. Could someone please confirm whether height speakers overhanging a tower is an issuer or not?
I am also rethinking about getting a new center but I am personally ok (for the most part) with the current centers. But after reading the forums I am having second thoughts. Plus Pioneer has a great deal on the pioneer elite ec73 center so considering potentially upgrading to those too (but at a later date). Any thoughts on this too?
Thank you so much for taking your time to read through this and your help. Looking forward to your thoughts.
Forget Atmos until you are in a space where you can do 5.1.4 with in ceiling speakers or 4 speakers mounted at the wall/ceiling junction.
If you are unwilling to run wires under a throw rug to have 5.1 just stick to 3.1 and replace your center with the Pioneer Elite and get a real subwoofer.
PORTED SUBWOOFERS $600 AND BELOW, DELIVERED
*THE LARGER PORTED SUBS DELIVER AT LEAST 40% MORE SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL
THAN THE SAME BRAND'S SEALED VERSION WITH SAME SIZE WOOFER AND AMP
*IF LOOKING AT LARGER/MORE EXPENSIVE SUBWOOFERS ADD PSA TO THE LIST OF BRANDS
*IF YOU ARE NOT AN ACTION MOVIE FAN A SUBWOOFER WITH 22-30HZ EXTENSION WOULD BE FINE
*FOR MUSIC A 30HZ SUB IS A FINE CHOICE
*BEFORE BUYING MAKE A CARDBOARD CUTOUT OF THE SIZE OF THE SUB TO MAKE SURE IT IS NOT TOO LARGE FOR YOU
Specs are from the manufacturer unless noted otherwise.
2 years 350watts =15w16h17d= 40 lbs 10" [30hz] $399 RSL SPEEDWOOFER 10S, (extension from Sound & Vision review)
5 years 300watts =15w19h20d= 46 lbs 10" [18hz] $499 SVS PB1000, (extension from Sound & Vision Review)
5 years 400watts =17w21hx22d= 66 lbs 12" [19hz] $500 SVS PB12 NSD, (extension from Sound & Vision Review)
5 years 500watts =15w19h20d= 72 lbs 10" [20hz] $500 MONOPRICE MONOLITH THX 10"
3 years 300watts =16w22h21d= 69 lbs* 12" [19hz] $599 RHYTHMIK LV12F
2 years 350watts =15w21h22d= 62 lbs 12" [18hz] $607 HSU VTF2 MK5, (extension from Audioholics review)
* = shipping weight
SEALED SUBWOOFERS $650 AND BELOW, DELIVERED
5 years 300watts =13w14h16d= 27 lbs 12" [23hz] $499 SVS SB1000, (extension from Sound & Vision)
2 years 220watts =16w16h18d= 41 lbs 12" [28hz] $500 Q ACOUSTICS Q B12
5 years 500watts =13w16h17d= 50 lbs 10" [20hz] $500 MONOPRICE MONOLITH MTS10 THX
3 years 300watts =14w14h16d= 58 lbs* 12" [18hz] $549 RHYTHMIK L12
5 years 300watts =13w24h17d= 55 lbs 2 X 10" [20hz] $600 TEKTON 2-10
5 years 500watts =14w15h17d= 35 lbs 12" [19hz] $649 SVS SB2000 outlet, (extension from Sound & Vision)
* = shipping weight