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Speaker advice for 3.1 in living room

Hi there all, this is my first post and I have been browsing around for quite some time. I love all the information on this site and really hope to benefit in future plans as well.


I have done my reading I have researched I have priced out and so on, and I still have no idea on which route to go.

What I'm looking for is speaker suggestions for my 3.1 system in my living room. On wall speakers only as I want to keep the room clean and tidy looking. The room is somewhat large at 16' x 24' with 12' cathedral ceilings as well as opening up to the kitchen and dining area.

I am looking for something that will not break the bank and is aestheticly pleasing enough(the obvious here is I want them to sound as good as they can for the budget). Say budget for the 3 would be say 700 to 1500. These will be almost exclusively used for TV and movies. It's for casual viewing as there will be a theatre in the basement. I will NOT be looking to upgrade from 3.1 either.

I've looked at cantons, axions, def tech, tribe, Martin's........yada yada yada. There are too many to list and I'm getting overwhelmed.

Can purchase a receiver as well but currently have a Yamaha rx v565 . I also have a a formula bic f12 subwoofer I could use for the time being if I don't feel like purchasing a new one for awhile.

Also as a side note I would love some information or a link that's worth reading on what is needed to run my receiver from the closet to the back of the TV(tcl 6 series but will upgrade to of oled at some point). HDMI vs cat6, Speaker wire and so on as I would like to know what is needed as I am moving my electrical up the wall as well.


Any questions, suggestions, information or what not would be much appreciated.


Thank you all in advance.
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On walls limit your options quite a bit.

Revel’s S16 is basically the M16 in an on wall format. Flatter and sealed.

$450 a piece, but can be had for $350 a piece easily.
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I was considering the m10 and c10 from revel but as mentioned was looking for more options and comparison's and so on.

I do know I am limited as I want on walls but this is just the asthetic I am going for and going in wall is not really feasable for the center channel so on walls it is.

Any other options to consider? I was also looking at the def tech mythos xtr50 or say the axiom m22 as well.
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I was considering the m10 and c10 from revel but as mentioned was looking for more options and comparison's and so on.

I do know I am limited as I want on walls but this is just the asthetic I am going for and going in wall is not really feasable for the center channel so on walls it is.

Any other options to consider? I was also looking at the def tech mythos xtr50 or say the axiom m22 as well.
$10/box to return on walls from Crutchfield within 6 months.

Many great options, including Revel, order two pairs, send the loser home, the return shipping charge comes out of the pair you choose to keep.

Listening in your own home is the only true "answer" but depending on who you buy from, can be inexpensive or expensive to return.

HTD also offers on walls with free returns.

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Hi there all, this is my first post and I have been browsing around for quite some time. I love all the information on this site and really hope to benefit in future plans as well.

Also as a side note I would love some information or a link that's worth reading on what is needed to run my receiver from the closet to the back of the TV(tcl 6 series but will upgrade to of oled at some point). HDMI vs cat6, Speaker wire and so on as I would like to know what is needed as I am moving my electrical up the wall as well.


Any questions, suggestions, information or what not would be much appreciated.

Thank you all in advance.
the HDMI spec is up to 10 meters. and while they make longer cables, you may run into problems( signal drop out etc. - I had this problem) there are several line amp/ booster solutions, as well as fiber otpic HDMI cables, and Baluns ( converts HDMI to 1 or 2 cat 5/6)

Which is best? Don't know.

I have used passive boosters ( worked) as well as powered booster ( works well. using that solution now) I have used Baluns as well ( works)

I have not used a fiber optic HDMI ( can be pricey) https://www.essenceelectrostatic.com...tic-cables-v2/ or https://sewelldirect.com/products/li...tic-hdmi-cable

as for other cables, run Ethernet ( x 2) co-ax and possible a second set of L/R - I did this with my remodel / Easy way to demo an alternate set of speakers - just make sure you lable everything well.

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What I'm looking for is speaker suggestions for my 3.1 system in my living room. On wall speakers only as I want to keep the room clean and tidy looking. The room is somewhat large at 16' x 24' with 12' cathedral ceilings as well as opening up to the kitchen and dining area.

I am looking for something that will not break the bank and is aestheticly pleasing enough(the obvious here is I want them to sound as good as they can for the budget). Say budget for the 3 would be say 700 to 1500. These will be almost exclusively used for TV and movies. It's for casual viewing as there will be a theatre in the basement. I will NOT be looking to upgrade from 3.1 either.

I've looked at cantons, axions, def tech, tribe, Martin's........yada yada yada. There are too many to list and I'm getting overwhelmed.

Can purchase a receiver as well but currently have a Yamaha rx v565 . I also have a a formula bic f12 subwoofer I could use for the time being if I don't feel like purchasing a new one for awhile.
The logical thing to do would be to simply TRY OUT a couple of speakers at home to see which are enough for your tastes, needs and standards. Nobody here can predict which is one will be "perfect" for you. I would start with the low/mid priced ones first, and then move up from there if needed.

These are reasonably priced and come from a well respected company that offers free return shipping:
https://www.htd.com/VERSA-HTS1

You can probably find similar offerings with $10 flat rate return shipping, from Crutchfield.com

Given the open plan nature of your space, the key factor will be adequate subwoofer(s). A single Hsu VTF-3 would be a light years improvement over that F12, which the savings from going with the HTDs would help pay for. A bare minimum upgrade would be adding a second F12 which would help with all that cubic footage.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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When it comes to the install and the run of cable I'll have to do a little more research. I'll definitely read up on what you suggested and what works for you........... I'll have to look into some return policies and what not. I understand that trying them in my house would be the best way to really choose which ones I like. The problem with that is there still 50 different options all the way up to $1,000 a piece and that's not really feasible. To purchase order mount on the wall in run wiring and so on. I'm really looking for suggestions to limit my choices as well as really send me another right direction. ........One thing about the HTD is that they are way too large for what I'm looking for....... The f12 is just a placeholder for the time being. The plan is to upgrade down the road to a better subwoofer.
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To purchase order mount on the wall in run wiring and so on. I'm really looking for suggestions to limit my choices as well as really send me another right direction. ........One thing about the HTD is that they are way too large for what I'm looking for.......
You audition a pair on stands vs another pair and then fill out from there.

Free or easy returns with cabinet sizes.

BOOKSHELF SPEAKER PAIRS WITH >4.9" MAIN DRIVER, UNDER $500 MSRP & FREE OR CHEAP RETURN SHIPPING

**equals free returns ^^equals $10/ box returns

NOTES: >note that most speakers do not actually reach within 10hz of their stated bass extension; check pro reviews

>CRUTCHFIELD carries many speakers that Best Buy does not listed below. Their return policy is very inexpensive and longer in time.

>check center speaker prices before choosing a pair for a surround system as some companies have VERY high prices for centers

MSRP/PR PORT? H/W/D ROUNDED TO NEAREST INCH

$149 REAR 11X7X9 3 way 5" [53hz] SONY CORE SSCS5, often 50% off Best Buy**

$150 SEALED 14X7X5 2 way 5.5" [100hz] JBL ARENA 120/ARENA B15 (B15 often on sale)**

$219 FRONT 12X7X10 2 way 5.25" [60hz] HTD LEVEL TWO**

$225 REAR 15X9X11 2 way 7" [55hz] JBL ARENA 130**

$250 REAR 13x7x9 2 way 5.25" [55hz] JBL STAGE A130**

$230 REAR 12x8x10 2 way 5.25" [50hz] POLK SIGNATURE 15 ^^

$250 FRONT 13X7X9 2 way 5.25" [46hz] ELAC DEBUT B5.2**

$300 FRONT 15X8X11 2 way 6.5" [44hz] ELAC DEBUT B6.2**

$300 REAR 15X9X14 2 way 6.5" [39hz] POLK SIGNATURE 20 ^^

$300 REAR 12X7X10 2 way 5.25" [65hz] PSB ALPHA B1^^

$319 FRONT 16X9X12 2 way 6.5" [47hz] HTD LEVEL THREE**

$349 REAR 12X7X8 2 way 5.25" [75hz] APERION INTIMUS 5B**

$350 DOWN 12X8X13 2 way 5" [55hz] WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 11.1^^

$400 REAR 11X7X10 2 way 5.25" [55hz] PSB ALPHA P5^^

$400 FRONT 16X6X6 2 way 2 X 4" [85hz] RSL CG 23**

$400 REAR 10X7X8 2 way 5.5" [55hz] MONITOR AUDIO BRONZE 1^^

$400 REAR 15X9X11 2 way 6.5" [52hz] JBL STUDIO 230**

$420 REAR 14x7x101 2 way 5.25" [48hz] KLIPSCH RP 500M**

$500 FRONT 14X8X10 2 way 6.5" [42hz] MONITOR AUDIO BRONZE 2^^

$500 DOWN 14X9X13 2 way 6.5" [48hz] WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 11.1^^

$500 REAR 13X8X10 2 way 6.5" [48hz] SVS PRIME BOOKSHELF**

$500 REAR 13X8X11 3 way 5.25" [46hz] ELAC UNIFI UB5, currently discounted ^^

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One thing about the HTD is that they are way too large for what I'm looking for...
One thing to bear in mind is FORM vs FUNCTION.

If you want something small and pretty, EXPECT to get small and not-so-pretty sound. At ANY price.

The laws of physics simply laugh at all the slick sales/marketing BS in the world, while the companies seducing you with that sales/marketing BS are laughing on their way to the bank.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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One thing to bear in mind is FORM vs FUNCTION.

If you want something small and pretty, EXPECT to get small and not-so-pretty sound. At ANY price.

The laws of physics simply laugh at all the slick sales/marketing BS in the world, while the companies seducing you with that sales/marketing BS are laughing on their way to the bank.
This I know. This is why I am trying to find a happy medium on both fronts. This doesn't need to be the best sound possible as it is only for casual viewing and not my main theater. I am just not looking to throw off proportions with the htd speakers since they are massive compared to the TV itself.

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You audition a pair on stands vs another pair and then fill out from there.

Free or easy returns with cabinet sizes.

BOOKSHELF SPEAKER PAIRS WITH >4.9" MAIN DRIVER, UNDER $500 MSRP & FREE OR CHEAP RETURN SHIPPING

**equals free returns ^^equals $10/ box returns

NOTES: >note that most speakers do not actually reach within 10hz of their stated bass extension; check pro reviews

>CRUTCHFIELD carries many speakers that Best Buy does not listed below. Their return policy is very inexpensive and longer in time.

>check center speaker prices before choosing a pair for a surround system as some companies have VERY high prices for centers

MSRP/PR PORT? H/W/D ROUNDED TO NEAREST INCH

$149 REAR 11X7X9 3 way 5" [53hz] SONY CORE SSCS5, often 50% off Best Buy**

$150 SEALED 14X7X5 2 way 5.5" [100hz] JBL ARENA 120/ARENA B15 (B15 often on sale)**

$219 FRONT 12X7X10 2 way 5.25" [60hz] HTD LEVEL TWO**

$225 REAR 15X9X11 2 way 7" [55hz] JBL ARENA 130**

$250 REAR 13x7x9 2 way 5.25" [55hz] JBL STAGE A130**

$230 REAR 12x8x10 2 way 5.25" [50hz] POLK SIGNATURE 15 ^^

$250 FRONT 13X7X9 2 way 5.25" [46hz] ELAC DEBUT B5.2**

$300 FRONT 15X8X11 2 way 6.5" [44hz] ELAC DEBUT B6.2**

$300 REAR 15X9X14 2 way 6.5" [39hz] POLK SIGNATURE 20 ^^

$300 REAR 12X7X10 2 way 5.25" [65hz] PSB ALPHA B1^^

$319 FRONT 16X9X12 2 way 6.5" [47hz] HTD LEVEL THREE**

$349 REAR 12X7X8 2 way 5.25" [75hz] APERION INTIMUS 5B**

$350 DOWN 12X8X13 2 way 5" [55hz] WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 11.1^^

$400 REAR 11X7X10 2 way 5.25" [55hz] PSB ALPHA P5^^

$400 FRONT 16X6X6 2 way 2 X 4" [85hz] RSL CG 23**

$400 REAR 10X7X8 2 way 5.5" [55hz] MONITOR AUDIO BRONZE 1^^

$400 REAR 15X9X11 2 way 6.5" [52hz] JBL STUDIO 230**

$420 REAR 14x7x101 2 way 5.25" [48hz] KLIPSCH RP 500M**

$500 FRONT 14X8X10 2 way 6.5" [42hz] MONITOR AUDIO BRONZE 2^^

$500 DOWN 14X9X13 2 way 6.5" [48hz] WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 11.1^^

$500 REAR 13X8X10 2 way 6.5" [48hz] SVS PRIME BOOKSHELF**

$500 REAR 13X8X11 3 way 5.25" [46hz] ELAC UNIFI UB5, currently discounted ^^
Oh I can understand the logic of how to go about running multiple different options easily. I am only looking for on wall speakers also. Bookshelves would surely not very good mounted to a wall with only a 3 inch protrusion of the TV.
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Oh I can understand the logic of how to go about running multiple different options easily. I am only looking for on wall speakers also. Bookshelves would surely not very good mounted to a wall with only a 3 inch protrusion of the TV.
Then just order two pairs from somewhere with good returns and send the loser home.

What is the maximum projection out from the wall and what is your color choice?

That easily narrows your list down.

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This I know. This is why I am trying to find a happy medium on both fronts. This doesn't need to be the best sound possible as it is only for casual viewing and not my main theater. I am just not looking to throw off proportions with the htd speakers since they are massive compared to the TV itself.

Bookshelves would surely not very good mounted to a wall with only a 3 inch protrusion of the TV.
In that case, maybe a 3-channel soundbar might be a good idea...this one is just 4" deep, so it would only be 1" thicker than your TV...and again, free returns if you don't like it.
https://www.htd.com/Versa-SB3

With the savings, you can easily get a pair of good subs...they don't even have to be huge, maybe just a pair of the RSL Speedwoofer 10S...added bonus of those is you can add a wireless module for just $50 so you could put one of them near your sitting position to maximize impact. And like HTD, you get free return shipping for peace of mind.

$350 HTD soundbar + $800 pair of RSL subs = well under your $1500 budget max.
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^^good option above.

Another option for you would be a pair of the Revel Concerta M8 ($250 each) forgo the center, and then get a sub like the HSU VTF-15 MK2. Crossover to the sub at 120 Hz. That would keep you right around $1500.

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Then just order two pairs from somewhere with good returns and send the loser home.

What is the maximum projection out from the wall and what is your color choice?

That easily narrows your list down.
I don't want a 6 or 7 inch bookshelf sticking out. I mean I am flexible but want it to look nice and clean. The HTD speakers are just too large for the TV vertically even and that won't have a clean look.

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In that case, maybe a 3-channel soundbar might be a good idea...this one is just 4" deep, so it would only be 1" thicker than your TV...and again, free returns if you don't like it.


With the savings, you can easily get a pair of good subs...they don't even have to be huge, maybe just a pair of the RSL Speedwoofer 10S...added bonus of those is you can add a wireless module for just $50 so you could put one of them near your sitting position to maximize impact. And like HTD, you get free return shipping for peace of mind.

$350 HTD soundbar + $800 pair of RSL subs = well under your $1500 budget max.

Currently have a sound bar and am looking to really just upgrade the look of it as well. Also have WAF so need to compromise on the wall a tad and she likes the three speaker look much more. Although I do like the idea of the wireless subwoofer. I was wondering where I could put it ha.

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^^good option above.

Another option for you would be a pair of the Revel Concerta M8 ($250 each) forgo the center, and then get a sub like the HSU VTF-15 MK2. Crossover to the sub at 120 Hz. That would keep you right around $1500.
I don't mind the concertas but why forgo the center channel? Wouldn't it be the main speaker needed for movies and TV?


So far I have heard really only two recommendations for speakers. HTD and revel. I think I'm going to stay away from the HTD just because of the size. And the revel are definitely an option. That is only one option though.

I do appreciate all the info and help though. I know I'm being kind of a pain. This has just been a long 6 months of research, reading, deciding, reading more and then changing my mind. It gets a tad frustrating ha.
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No love for say the axiom m22 on wall with the vp100 center channel? The wife loves the look of them. Just not sure if they are worth the 1k for the 3
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No love for say the axiom m22 on wall with the vp100 center channel? The wife loves the look of them. Just not sure if they are worth the 1k for the 3
For that $1K ballpark, I'd much sooner get the Martin Logan 8i for the center and a pair of their 6i for L/R from Crutchfield with its $10 flat rate return shipping policy.

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I can also get 3 def tech mythos xtr50 for 350 each. But I hear mixed reviews and they are a tad bit older as well.
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I can also get 3 def tech mythos xtr50 for 350 each. But I hear mixed reviews and they are a tad bit older as well.
I'd stick with ML if pretty-but-decent-sounding is what you're after. $10 flat rate returns means you'd be out $20-30 tops if they don't work out.

Don't overthink it. As you said, this is not even your primary HT setup anyhow.

Your wife should be thrilled with the MLs' cosmetics, I have never heard of a woman who wasn't.

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This is true, they do look nice. And it's true I am overthinking it A LOT. Hence why I've learned towards 12 different set ups. Just like using maybe goldear supersat 50c for the center and keep the LR smaller with the supersat 3's. I'd love to find some used stuff but on walls are hard to come by anyway
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This is true, they do look nice. And it's true I am overthinking it A LOT. Hence why I've learned towards 12 different set ups. Just like using maybe goldear supersat 50c for the center and keep the LR smaller with the supersat 3's. I'd love to find some used stuff but on walls are hard to come by anyway
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No love for say the axiom m22 on wall with the vp100 center channel? The wife loves the look of them. Just not sure if they are worth the 1k for the 3
I have a set of M22 on wall in the garage - doing A/B testing/listening with JBL 530s , Ascend CBM-170s ... on par with both. haven't heard the VP100 center

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But if I found a used deal and purchased then I'd be stuck and decisions would be over ha.

Good to know about the quality of the m22.
What are your thoughts on the supersat 50c and the two supersat 3 for LR?
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So after speaking in depth with a non angry wife, she has broken down the well......must haves....so with that being said these are what my options are down to.

Martinlogan slm xl
Revel m10
Goldenear supersat 50
Def tech mythos xtr 50
Klipsch rp640d

Obviously the slm are the premium here.

Thoughts or suggestions? Am I missing anything that is in the same realm?( She wants black, approx same height as tv but def not bigger, wants all 3 the same if possible and wants it to look clean)
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So after speaking in depth with a non angry wife, she has broken down the well......must haves....so with that being said these are what my options are down to.

Martinlogan slm xl
Revel m10
Goldenear supersat 50
Def tech mythos xtr 50
Klipsch rp640d

Obviously the slm are the premium here.

Thoughts or suggestions? Am I missing anything that is in the same realm?( She wants black, approx same height as tv but def not bigger, wants all 3 the same if possible and wants it to look clean)
Yes, free return HTD offers the Versa HTS1 which can be used as a center or a left and right speaker, alternately you can use the SB1 for the left and right with the HTS1 as center.

https://www.htd.com/Products/Speaker...binet-Speakers

Alternately you can use three of these for left, right and center; I use one as my center in my secondary room (with a sub of course) and the clarity and ability to play far louder/clearer than one might think is an advantage. Comes with wall mounting hardware.

https://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-M.../dp/B0035FZ13I

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Hi there all, this is my first post and I have been browsing around for quite some time. I love all the information on this site and really hope to benefit in future plans as well.


I have done my reading I have researched I have priced out and so on, and I still have no idea on which route to go.

What I'm looking for is speaker suggestions for my 3.1 system in my living room. On wall speakers only as I want to keep the room clean and tidy looking. The room is somewhat large at 16' x 24' with 12' cathedral ceilings as well as opening up to the kitchen and dining area.

I am looking for something that will not break the bank and is aestheticly pleasing enough(the obvious here is I want them to sound as good as they can for the budget). Say budget for the 3 would be say 700 to 1500. These will be almost exclusively used for TV and movies. It's for casual viewing as there will be a theatre in the basement. I will NOT be looking to upgrade from 3.1 either.

I've looked at cantons, axions, def tech, tribe, Martin's........yada yada yada. There are too many to list and I'm getting overwhelmed.

Can purchase a receiver as well but currently have a Yamaha rx v565 . I also have a a formula bic f12 subwoofer I could use for the time being if I don't feel like purchasing a new one for awhile.

Also as a side note I would love some information or a link that's worth reading on what is needed to run my receiver from the closet to the back of the TV(tcl 6 series but will upgrade to of oled at some point). HDMI vs cat6, Speaker wire and so on as I would like to know what is needed as I am moving my electrical up the wall as well.


Any questions, suggestions, information or what not would be much appreciated.


Thank you all in advance.
Sounds very similar to the situation I was in. Lots of great advice here. I went with the RSL CG23 3.1. Couldn't be happier, amazing customer service, 30 day free return policy. Also front ported so perfect for wall mounting which I aim to do this weekend. Attaching a picture of the setup too. Be aware, their stock on the speakers in black is low, but I love the white personally.

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Of all those you have listed, I have only heard the SuperSats. They are capable speakers, but you will need a competent subwoofer to augment bass.
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Sounds very similar to the situation I was in. Lots of great advice here. I went with the RSL CG23 3.1. Couldn't be happier, amazing customer service, 30 day free return policy. Also front ported so perfect for wall mounting which I aim to do this weekend. Attaching a picture of the setup too. Be aware, their stock on the speakers in black is low, but I love the white personally.

https://rslspeakers.com/products/new...heater-system/
I know you don't want to pull the center forward closer to the hands of your toddlers so go ahead and place a stack of books under the center to raise it up as far as you can and pull the speaker to the front edge of the books.

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Sounds very similar to the situation I was in. Lots of great advice here. I went with the RSL CG23 3.1. Couldn't be happier, amazing customer service, 30 day free return policy. Also front ported so perfect for wall mounting which I aim to do this weekend. Attaching a picture of the setup too. Be aware, their stock on the speakers in black is low, but I love the white personally.
Do you have a photo of the white RSLs with the grilles off? Just wanted to compare.

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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So after speaking in depth with a non angry wife, she has broken down the well......must haves....so with that being said these are what my options are down to.

Martinlogan slm xl
Revel m10
Goldenear supersat 50
Def tech mythos xtr 50
Klipsch rp640d

Obviously the slm are the premium here.

Thoughts or suggestions? Am I missing anything that is in the same realm?( She wants black, approx same height as tv but def not bigger, wants all 3 the same if possible and wants it to look clean)
Your wife vetoed even the ML 8i/6i combo? Sheesh, she's one tough customer!

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If your wife has that many constraints, just go with an in-wall setup. And make HER do all the work.
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