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Here's what it looks like on a temporary bench.
Make sure it's aimed properly too. Sitting that low is still likely to be problematic though as the vertical dispersion is limited.


Best would be behind the screen with an acoustically transparent screen.

But then you have to move the screen forward and modify the wall so the center can recess and not have boundary issues.
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I just got the Signature S2 V3 speaker from an ebay seller, unfortunately the tweeter came damaged and broken I'm going to return back and get my money back. Funny thing is that it came in its original box with the original packaging and I think the foam pad crush the tweeter with its own weight. I think the box was set sideways during shipping. I did connected them and try out to hear how it sounds. Surprisingly, it sounded fine, but the higher frequencies did sounded like it was hissing and caused a bit of resonance. Man, I really wanted these speaker, now for the hassle of returning them and wait to get my money back
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You could also get the replacement cost of a new tweeter and ask for a partial refund to avoid the trouble of shipping the pair back.

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You could also get the replacement cost of a new tweeter and ask for a partial refund to avoid the trouble of shipping the pair back.
How much would a new tweeter cost? Does anybody in this forum know?

I also have to wait for the other speaker to arrived since it's not here yet to inspect it for any damages if there is any. I would probably just asked for a partial refund to pay off the new tweeter or tweeters if the second one came damaged.
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How much would a new tweeter cost? Does anybody in this forum know?

I also have to wait for the other speaker to arrived since it's not here yet to inspect it for any damages if there is any. I would probably just asked for a partial refund to pay off the new tweeter or tweeters if the second one came damaged.
A few years back I was toying with the idea of converting my
Studio 40's with Signature drivers. If I recall correctly the cost
For the Be tweeter was $400>$500 each!

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How much would a new tweeter cost? Does anybody in this forum know?

I also have to wait for the other speaker to arrived since it's not here yet to inspect it for any damages if there is any. I would probably just asked for a partial refund to pay off the new tweeter or tweeters if the second one came damaged.
I had a similar problem a year or so ago with shipping damage on a pair of Studio 100s. The seller requested the warranty replacement for me and all was well, ignoring the shipping hassles. Also, Paradigm allows eBay sales of discontinued models, so if you bought from an authorized dealer you may be under warranty yourself.
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A few years back I was toying with the idea of converting my
Studio 40's with Signature drivers. If I recall correctly the cost
For the Be tweeter was $400>$500 each!
Ouch, that's a lot of money. I decided to file a claim as soon as possible and return the speakers. The seller refused believe that it would get damaged at all and will dispute any claims from me, that just sounds a bit fishy and/or hostile to me.

I haven't received the second speaker yet, should I just leave it unopened and return it like that? I'm afraid to open it and find the second speaker with a damaged tweeter. I just want to return and get my money back as I spend a lot for them.

Check out the foam pad, you can easily see the imprint of the tweeter part of the speaker. So it was crushed by the foam pad. If seller still refused to believe that it was damaged by the packaging and/or during shipping, there will be problems.
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Faulty Woofer?

I've been playing around with REW software generating frequency response curves.
During running 15-20,000Hz sweeps for the calibration, I noticed that my right front Studio 60 speaker has a strange vibration sound around lower-to-mid sweep point. It's like a brash sound that my left front Studio 60 speaker doesn't exhibit (albeit it does a little on some sweeps).

I'm running these sweeps at about 98dB. My center CC-690 centre doesn't exhibit this sound at all ever (at the same volume levels).

Should I be bringing in my right front to get it looked at?
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Thanks for your help.

I've raised the speaker as high as I can given the current screen height and the sound is significantly improved.

I'll play around a bit more as I have the ability to raise the screen a couple more inches.

Here's what it looks like on a temporary bench.
i have seen someone put a clear piece of Plexiglas on the floor in front of the speaker.
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I just got the Signature S2 V3 speaker from an ebay seller, unfortunately the tweeter came damaged and broken I'm going to return back and get my money back. Funny thing is that it came in its original box with the original packaging and I think the foam pad crush the tweeter with its own weight. I think the box was set sideways during shipping. I did connected them and try out to hear how it sounds. Surprisingly, it sounded fine, but the higher frequencies did sounded like it was hissing and caused a bit of resonance. Man, I really wanted these speaker, now for the hassle of returning them and wait to get my money back
be mindful that if you replace the damaged tweeter, the new one may not gel well with the other working one which may have come from a batch several years ago. It's best to replace both at same time. That was my experience.
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be mindful that if you replace the damaged tweeter, the new one may not gel well with the other working one which may have come from a batch several years ago. It's best to replace both at same time. That was my experience.
Yeah, I figure they won't sync very well.

Also I heard you can "upgrade" the current Studio speakers by swapping out the aluminium tweeters with the Sig's Beryllium tweeters, how does that work out?
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Yeah, I figure they won't sync very well.

Also I heard you can "upgrade" the current Studio speakers by swapping out the aluminium tweeters with the Sig's Beryllium tweeters, how does that work out?
Yeah, I checked that out...Paradigm recommended changing out
The crossover too. Of course the x-over on the tweeter only
Transitions from the woofer or mid-woofer to the tweeter.
Realistically probably not an audible change in x-over points.

I decided to stand pat on the 5 Sigs I already have. Running
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Seller offer a partial refund which is literally half of what I paid and it should cover for both tweeters. So I accepted and kept them. I'm not sure if I'll replace them both tweeters soon enough. The second speaker is 100% fine and the speaker with the damaged drivers works perfectly fine including the broken tweeter. After hooking up both speakers on my Anthem MRX 510, I'm not very impressed with the sound compare to my Studio 10 V5s. They sound way too neutral for my taste. Is that how the supposed to sound right? I know the Studios are bright sounding, but damm I just like them better.
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Seller offer a partial refund which is literally half of what I paid and it should cover for both tweeters. So I accepted and kept them. I'm not sure if I'll replace them both tweeters soon enough. The second speaker is 100% fine and the speaker with the damaged drivers works perfectly fine including the broken tweeter. After hooking up both speakers on my Anthem MRX 510, I'm not very impressed with the sound compare to my Studio 10 V5s. They sound way too neutral for my taste. Is that how the supposed to sound right? I know the Studios are bright sounding, but damm I just like them better.
Did you re-run the ARC on the MRX? Should be a big difference,
Especially down low. I found the Be tweeter not as harsh or bright
Compared to the Studios.
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be mindful that if you replace the damaged tweeter, the new one may not gel well with the other working one which may have come from a batch several years ago. It's best to replace both at same time. That was my experience.
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Yeah, I figure they won't sync very well. ....
Actually, this is not likely to be a problem with Paradigm's drivers because they are manufactured to such tight tolerances - for example their coils are wound to within +/- 1 turns. That's probably why Paradigm does not have to 'match' speakers by ear before shipping a pair like some other speaker manufacturers.

I would be stunned if anyone could hear the difference between a Signature speaker made today and one made 2 years ago. After all, Paradigm Signature speakers measure within +/- 2 dB across most of the audible spectrum.
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After hooking up both speakers on my Anthem MRX 510, I'm not very impressed with the sound compare to my Studio 10 V5s. They sound way too neutral for my taste. Is that how the supposed to sound right? I know the Studios are bright sounding, but damm I just like them better.
This does not sound right - at all. Yes, the Sigs are more 'neutral' than the Studio - that's just another way of saying they are more accurate - but there is no reason they should sound bad or 'dead'.

I stepped up to the Signature S2 from the Studio 20 a few weeks ago, and immediately heard a difference. Specifically, I heard a cleaner top end (like things coming into focus after getting new glasses), and a tighter low end. Coming from Studio 10s you should hear an even more significant improvement in the low end, and at least some improvement in the top end.

I would double-check the polarity of your connections and then re-run the calibration. You also have the option of adjusting your tone controls if your receiver allow it.
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This does not sound right - at all. Yes, the Sigs are more 'neutral' than the Studio - that's just another way of saying they are more accurate - but there is no reason they should sound bad or 'dead'.

I stepped up to the Signature S2 from the Studio 20 a few weeks ago, and immediately heard a difference. Specifically, I heard a cleaner top end (like things coming into focus after getting new glasses), and a tighter low end. Coming from Studio 10s you should hear an even more significant improvement in the low end, and at least some improvement in the top end.

I would double-check the polarity of your connections and then re-run the calibration. You also have the option of adjusting your tone controls if your receiver allow it.
There is a big difference in sound, way different. The low end sounds much deeper, while the highs are devoid of any brightness and harshness. I like to avoid adjusting the treble on the Anthem since there shouldn't be a need especially on the Studio 10s. No need for the Sigs as well, but I will try to run the room correction and see how they sound. I think these speakers need more room for breathing because of the sheer size.

In the end I up paying $750 for the pair of the S2s V3 after the partial refund, not too shabby. I only need to spend a few hundred dollars to replace the tweeter, and be set.
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Replacement tweeter for mini monitor v2

Any idea's where I can find a tweeter for my Paradigm mini monitor V2's?
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There is a big difference in sound, way different. The low end sounds much deeper, while the highs are devoid of any brightness and harshness. I like to avoid adjusting the treble on the Anthem since there shouldn't be a need especially on the Studio 10s. No need for the Sigs as well, but I will try to run the room correction and see how they sound. I think these speakers need more room for breathing because of the sheer size.

In the end I up paying $750 for the pair of the S2s V3 after the partial refund, not too shabby. I only need to spend a few hundred dollars to replace the tweeter, and be set.
If you ran ARC before and didn't reset your receiver those measurements will not work. Spacing and placement can be different even if only 1/2 inch off and frequency response, levels, etc... will all be different and not at all accurate from the studios to the sigs. My suggestion is to reset the receiver or at least try to clear ARC settings before you make any judgements. Run ARC after if you want.
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I went to listen to the new Persona and my jaw dropped!

The speakers disappear and the artists appear right in front of you like a private concert in the room with you!

http://persona.paradigm.com/persona/

I heard the http://persona.paradigm.com/persona/...del=persona-3f

and the http://persona.paradigm.com/persona/...odel=persona-b

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I went to listen to the new Persona and my jaw dropped!

The speakers disappear and the artists appear right in front of you like a private concert in the room with you!

http://persona.paradigm.com/persona/

I heard the http://persona.paradigm.com/persona/...del=persona-3f

and the http://persona.paradigm.com/persona/...odel=persona-b

Exactly my reaction when I heard the 3F. You were warned!

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Exactly my reaction when I heard the 3F. You were warned!

When will you be taking delivery?
The Personas are so good they have given me goosebumps multiple times. They are such a quantum leap past the performance of the Signatures its not even funny. I think they're going to sell really well and they should

Absolutely stunning.
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The Personas are so good they have given me goosebumps multiple times. They are such a quantum leap past the performance of the Signatures its not even funny. I think they're going to sell really well and they should

Absolutely stunning.
Not that I'll ever be able to afford them, but I really hope my local dealer picks them up at some point - would love to have a look and a listen. They so far have not picked the line up, but we're certainly in the area that has the cash to drop on these babies!
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If you ran ARC before and didn't reset your receiver those measurements will not work. Spacing and placement can be different even if only 1/2 inch off and frequency response, levels, etc... will all be different and not at all accurate from the studios to the sigs. My suggestion is to reset the receiver or at least try to clear ARC settings before you make any judgements. Run ARC after if you want.
I have the ARC set to off, that should make the speakers sound as is. I'm trying the speakers out tomorrow in my living where there is more room and further apart. I think the S2s are meant for larger rooms with more space, not in a small bedroom that is cram. Also one of the tweeters is broken, but produces sound fine for the most part.
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Not that I'll ever be able to afford them, but I really hope my local dealer picks them up at some point - would love to have a look and a listen. They so far have not picked the line up, but we're certainly in the area that has the cash to drop on these babies!
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Actually, this is not likely to be a problem with Paradigm's drivers because they are manufactured to such tight tolerances - for example their coils are wound to within +/- 1 turns. That's probably why Paradigm does not have to 'match' speakers by ear before shipping a pair like some other speaker manufacturers.

I would be stunned if anyone could hear the difference between a Signature speaker made today and one made 2 years ago. After all, Paradigm Signature speakers measure within +/- 2 dB across most of the audible spectrum.
I think it will depend on the type of driver. I have had the unfortunately situation to replace one tweeter and a midrange in my Signature S6v3. The tweeter I ended up replacing both even though one was still good, the midrange only one because I did not discern a difference. I don't know why, but I have to trust my ears and the thing that matters is that I am happy with the way both speakers sound as one.
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I heard the 15B's today. I thought my SE-1's went deep. Those 15B's are amazing for a bookshelf speaker. IMO,no subwoofer needed for two channel listening. If I were doing a theater setup with them then I would use a sub.

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Well I hook the Signature S2s V3 in my living for a much better environment to listen to these. While they can easily go loud with good deep bass, they are amazing sounding speakers. However, my mom prefers the Studios instead, and unfortunately I had to agreed. So I'm thinking of just swapping these for a floorstanding Studio speakers like the Studio 60 V5 or the 100 V5. I just like the Studios better.

After listening the S2s V3 for a while, there were certain songs where I couldn't hear certain parts at all while I can hear them on the Studio 10 just fine, this is on the fully working speaker.

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I heard the 15B's today. I thought my SE-1's went deep. Those 15B's are amazing for a bookshelf speaker. IMO,no subwoofer needed for two channel listening. If I were doing a theater setup with them then I would use a sub.
Oh yeah, I demoed those and they do sound amazing for something so small yet digs deep. I would hook those 15Bs on a first gen Anthem AVR because it produces far better bass than the newer Anthem AVRs.

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One of the best purchases I've made is my Stylus 370-SM's. It's 69 degrees today which is very unusual for the Philly area. Here I am grilling and enjoying Tidal through my outdoor speakers. Audiophile bliss!

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