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So a decent bedroom system then, I take it?

Yes, far better than soundbar, the sub is not bad but weak point in terms or articulation if you've heard better.

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I'm debating on swapping out my adp-350's for mini monitors for my side surrounds in a 7.2.4 Atmos set up. Good idea? If so any big difference in V1 vs. V4 in the mini's?
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How do you put the dipole ADPs in bipole mode like Dolby suggested?
I am uncertain of how or even if this can be done. I'll have to do some research or maybe someone here will chime in with an answer. I'm a couple of months away from purchasing my Atmos speakers so i have some time to figure this out. May have to contact Paradigm for the answer.

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prestige 85F opinions

Helo fellow enthusiasts

I recently purchased a PSB X2T set (L-R) and Imagine Center.

After moving to our new house, i felt like the system was lacking some punch. New home as a large open area (living/dining/kitchen) of 6000cubic feets.

I reached to the store i bought them from and they offered a trade in for upgrades.

The store carries PSB, Paradigm, B&W, Martin Logan.

For the price range i asked, they offered the following.

- Paradigm 85F + 55c
- B&W 703 S2 + center
- Martin Logans (motion 60xt i think).


Problem is the store keeps selling its Paradigm demos to avid customers. (good sign i guess).

I will be runing the speakers on a New Denon 3500h
Surrounds and sides are Monitor Audio MASS 10

Sub is currently a Goldenear Forcefield 4, but i have a PSA 1510 on order (Cant wait)

So far, based on review and overall opinion i am leaning towards the Paradigm. Also a bonus that i would support local brand.

Any advice/opinion is welcome.
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The 85F and 55C are an amazing combo in a well treated room, but I'd highly recommend an Anthem receiver. Anthem room correction works extremely well. I wouldn't even bother with better speakers unless you can try for the best speaker placement and soft furnishings around the room. I've heard 85F's stuck in a room with no treatments and I'd take the X2T's and an Anthem receiver instead.
Hmm damn well the Denon is pretty new wich would suck since i dont have the box and im pass the 30 days return. Is anthem a standalone receiver or is it a addon to an existing (still earling alot)
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Hmm damn well the Denon is pretty new wich would suck since i dont have the box and im pass the 30 days return. Is anthem a standalone receiver or is it a addon to an existing (still earling alot)

Anthem offers stand alone receivers as well as pre-pros. Your Denon should be fine, though many will argue that Anthem's ARC EQ system is better than Denon's Audyssey. And ARC is due to be upgraded soon. Still, I wouldn't sweat it too, too much.
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Hmm damn well the Denon is pretty new wich would suck since i dont have the box and im pass the 30 days return. Is anthem a standalone receiver or is it a addon to an existing (still earling alot)

Anthem offers stand alone receivers as well as pre-pros. Your Denon should be fine, though many will argue that Anthem's ARC EQ system is better than Denon's Audyssey. And ARC is due to be upgraded soon. Still, I wouldn't sweat it too, too much.
So the denon could be ok in your opinion...good one less thing to worry about hehe
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If this is inappropriate here then please advise me and I can delete.

Alas, I'm moving on from my 95Fs after about 3 years. I am far more into music and a pair of Maggie 1.7is fell into my hands very cheaply, and well, they're here to stay.

If anyone in the US is potentially interested in some midnight cherry 95Fs (one with a relatively minor cosmetic blemish) then feel free to PM me for details/pics. I thought I'd give the Paradigm fans first dibs before putting them out on the usual sites.

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The store carries PSB, Paradigm, B&W, Martin Logan.

For the price range i asked, they offered the following.

- Paradigm 85F + 55c
- B&W 703 S2 + center
- Martin Logans (motion 60xt i think).


Problem is the store keeps selling its Paradigm demos to avid customers. (good sign i guess).
I have not heard PSB in full disclosure. I auditioned the B&W 703 and there is a HUGE difference between those and their lower levels series. I was pretty impressed with their clarity. I did audition the ElectroMotion ESL's from Martin Logan in an A/B setting with the 85F's. Paradigm blew them away in energizing the room and the clarity...especially the vocal tones. Obviously, the sub on the ML made them better with the bass. Not sure with the 60xt...I believe they have a ribbon tweeter IIRC.

Since I'm on here...I am a Paradigm guy. I've looked for speakers that sounded better to me, but I have not found them. The first time I heard the Studio 60v5's I was seriously hooked and that took me to the Prestiges (see my signature). If it is a "WOW" Factor you are looking for, anyone that has been to my house and listened to my Paradigms has been enormously impressed. They say it is like hearing an old song for the first time. They play all different kinds of songs that they know and they all say that they hear things in the song they never knew were there. I don't know how to explain it...other than I highly recommend them.

Let us know what you choose...and tell us how it goes...
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The store carries PSB, Paradigm, B&W, Martin Logan.

For the price range i asked, they offered the following.

- Paradigm 85F + 55c
- B&W 703 S2 + center
- Martin Logans (motion 60xt i think).


Problem is the store keeps selling its Paradigm demos to avid customers. (good sign i guess).
I have not heard PSB in full disclosure. I auditioned the B&W 703 and there is a HUGE difference between those and their lower levels series. I was pretty impressed with their clarity. I did audition the ElectroMotion ESL's from Martin Logan in an A/B setting with the 85F's. Paradigm blew them away in energizing the room and the clarity...especially the vocal tones. Obviously, the sub on the ML made them better with the bass. Not sure with the 60xt...I believe they have a ribbon tweeter IIRC.

Since I'm on here...I am a Paradigm guy. I've looked for speakers that sounded better to me, but I have not found them. The first time I heard the Studio 60v5's I was seriously hooked and that took me to the Prestiges (see my signature). If it is a "WOW" Factor you are looking for, anyone that has been to my house and listened to my Paradigms has been enormously impressed. They say it is like hearing an old song for the first time. They play all different kinds of songs that they know and they all say that they hear things in the song they never knew were there. I don't know how to explain it...other than I highly recommend them.

Let us know what you choose...and tell us how it goes...
Thanks for the input! Highly appreciated
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Anthem offers stand alone receivers as well as pre-pros. Your Denon should be fine, though many will argue that Anthem's ARC EQ system is better than Denon's Audyssey. And ARC is due to be upgraded soon. Still, I wouldn't sweat it too, too much.
Let<s say i would add an anthem to my denon. I would need something like the MCA325 AMP right??
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Let<s say i would add an anthem to my denon. I would need something like the MCA325 AMP right??
The 85F and 55C have pretty high sensitivy and a power amp probably isn't needed. I suggested Anthem for the room correction system only. Dont buy a power amp at least until you hear the speakers without one. I highly doubt you'll need it. I'd just suggest getting an area rug and some soft furnishings around the room. Room treatments will make a big difference, taking away some of the need for better room correction.
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Anyone have experience with the Monitor 11 v7? Auditoned some at a store today, floor model priced at $750 for the pair. I enjoyed them quite a bit.

Just liking for an upgrade to something modern from my vintage DLK speakers I've been using the last couple of years.

Otherwise I've been eyeing the Q Acoustics 3050i, reviews look very positive and I love their design.

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Alas, I'm moving on from my 95Fs after about 3 years. I am far more into music and a pair of Maggie 1.7is fell into my hands very cheaply, and well, they're here to stay.

If anyone in the US is potentially interested in some midnight cherry 95Fs (one with a relatively minor cosmetic blemish) then feel free to PM me for details/pics. I thought I'd give the Paradigm fans first dibs before putting them out on the usual sites.
Be careful here. I once told someone if they were looking to get rid of an item on this forum I might be able to help and my post got deleted and I got a warning. However as in life I find that rules don't always apply to everyone equally so you might be ok. This place is run by humans and humans are extremely fallible.
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- Paradigm 85F + 55c
- B&W 703 S2 + center
- Martin Logans (motion 60xt i think).
The Bowers & Wilkins 700 speakers sounded pretty good to me, but the treble was kind of harsh. I don't know what frequency it was that bothered me, but it lacked the smoothness of the Prestige speakers. The Martin Logan Motion 60XT has really good bass and a very clear and smooth sound overall, but it lacked some warmth, or realism, with some music. In the end I went with two Prestige 15B's and a 45C, and I'll be getting couple of Rythmik FVX15's soon to handle bass, but I have to admit I was tempted by those Martin Logan's.

Like me, you have a very big room to fill. But you are getting a great subwoofer in the form of a PSA 1510, and all of the speakers you listed will easily punch above my little bookshelves.
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Let<s say i would add an anthem to my denon. I would need something like the MCA325 AMP right??
What @Williams2 said in the post right below yours. But if you were to look for an amp, you could go with an Anthem, but of course you're not limited to that!

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Yeah, depends on the moderator - some of them are far more lenient than others.....

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The Bowers & Wilkins 700 speakers sounded pretty good to me, but the treble was kind of harsh. I don't know what frequency it was that bothered me, but it lacked the smoothness of the Prestige speakers.
Same findings for me too....hard to pinpoint, but it strikes a bit of a nerve with me.

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The Bowers & Wilkins 700 speakers sounded pretty good to me, but the treble was kind of harsh. I don't know what frequency it was that bothered me, but it lacked the smoothness of the Prestige speakers. The Martin Logan Motion 60XT has really good bass and a very clear and smooth sound overall, but it lacked some warmth, or realism, with some music. In the end I went with two Prestige 15B's and a 45C, and I'll be getting couple of Rythmik FVX15's soon to handle bass, but I have to admit I was tempted by those Martin Logan's.

Like me, you have a very big room to fill. But you are getting a great subwoofer in the form of a PSA 1510, and all of the speakers you listed will easily punch above my little bookshelves.
Great choice...enjoy. I too have the 15B's and 45C paired with a Marantz 5012 avr with Atom...last version made...wonderful.
Still hemming and hawing over replacing my aged PDR12 sub, with a replacement driver, and newer PDR100...they're ok but not up to the Prestige match...

Tell us how your system sounds once it's set up and you're ears have adjusted to the system.

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Same findings for me too....hard to pinpoint, but it strikes a bit of a nerve with me.
Taking my budget into account when I was looking for speakers, nothing else I listened to was quite as clear and smooth as the Prestige series of speakers, except for Revel's offerings and the KEF LS50. I only regret not hearing more of KEF's offerings, but I probably would have still gone with Paradigm even if I had.

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Great choice...enjoy. I too have the 15B's and 45C paired with a Marantz 5012 avr with Atom...last version made...wonderful.
Still hemming and hawing over replacing my aged PDR12 sub, with a replacement driver, and newer PDR100...they're ok but not up to the Prestige match...

Tell us how your system sounds once it's set up and you're ears have adjusted to the system.
I'll be sure to let everyone know if I made a mistake trying to pair a 15 inch subwoofer driver with a single 5.5 inch bookshelf driver. I figure I can get away with it because the 15B sounds a heck of a lot bigger than it is, but we'll see.
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Paradigm

Prestige 85F $2149 chaque + tax
Prestige 45C $1249 + tax
Prestige 55C $1849 + tax


B&W

704S2 $1500 ch

703S2 $2150 ch

HTM72S2 $1000

HTM71S2 $1650

Gona dent that bank account for sure.
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People don't generally pay retail for Paradigm though. I think my 85/55 setup was 4200? Definitely not close to retail.
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People don't generally pay retail for Paradigm though. I think my 85/55 setup was 4200? Definitely not close to retail.

Yeah, seems like deals are not terribly rare. And if they really are going to release a Prestige v2, then there could be some major deals going on in the near future....?

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Yeah, seems like deals are not terribly rare. And if they really are going to release a Prestige v2, then there could be some major deals going on in the near future....?
You guys are making me feel bad. At least I got mine tax-free in Oregon...
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Picked up a pair of the newest 2018? black matte Paradigm Monitor SE Atom bookshelf speakers, $140/ea no sales tax . I demo them against some GoldenEar/KLH/Klipsch/ELAC/MartinLogan bookshelfs and for the price point to quality these things are killer, very well rounded highs/mids and basic lows. I have a 2.1 setup with a Klipsch Reference 10in sub. Awesome budget/spare bedroom bookshelf speakers!

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You guys are making me feel bad. At least I got mine tax-free in Oregon...

Well, don't feel too badly - I had to pay 9.25% sales tax here in good ole' Taxifornia.....

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People don't generally pay retail for Paradigm though. I think my 85/55 setup was 4200? Definitely not close to retail.

Especially if you deal with the same dealer all the time. I got a 95F/55C/25S/1000SW setup for $7785CDN/$5885US before taxes. Pretty much a deal of a life time I couldn't pass up. After selling my Studio setup, I paid about $4k CDN out of pocket. No upgrading for me for a while, even if they come out with a Prestige V2.

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Especially if you deal with the same dealer all the time. I got a 95F/55C/25S/1000SW setup for $7785CDN/$5885US before taxes. Pretty much a deal of a life time I couldn't pass up. After selling my Studio setup, I paid about $4k CDN out of pocket. No upgrading for me for a while, even if they come out with a Prestige V2.

Dang! That is a swinging deal no doubt.

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Hi all,

New to forum but have had Paradigms for about 10 years. Hope I'm using this reply function correctly...!

Just picked up a pair of new Monitor 7 v7s for $249 each to go in place of my Mini Monitor v6s as fronts in a 5.1 system, powered by a Yamaha V663. The Mini Monitors on stands were not exactly friendly for the toddlers I have in the house. I also have a Sub 10 v7, and Atom Monitor v7's mounted from back ceiling as rear/side surrounds. It's all being used in a medium-sized living room, about 17' long and 14' wide, with one of the 14' sides being relatively open into a kitchen, but with a big beam coming down from the ceiling and a bar that together contain some of the sound in the living space.

It's a combo home theater and music-listening room, so I'm excited to now have the Monitor 7s.

My current center is a Paradigm CC-190. I'm wondering, should I wish to upgrade that (does it make sense?), which Paradigm Center most makes sense? Without negotiation, and while they last, I'm able to get a Center 1 v7 for $199, or a Center 3 v7 for $299.

Any thoughts on which center would match best with the Monitor 7's, or if I should sit tight and see how it works as is?
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Without negotiation, and while they last, I'm able to get a Center 1 v7 for $199, or a Center 3 v7 for $299.

Any thoughts on which center would match best with the Monitor 7's, or if I should sit tight and see how it works as is?
I'd jump on that Center 3 v7. It'll be a giant upgrade from your CC-190. The Center 1 isn't bad, but it only goes down to 75hz and will sound a bit wimpier than the 3. I think the center speaker is the most important one in your setup (followed by subs, then everything else) and that's not a place to skimp. See if they'll take $250 though, can't hurt to ask
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Any thoughts on which center would match best with the Monitor 7's, or if I should sit tight and see how it works as is?
Agree with ratbuddy. Go for the 3.
I'm contemplating a similar change to my older but similar setup (v2 era).
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Hi all,

New to forum but have had Paradigms for about 10 years. Hope I'm using this reply function correctly...!

Just picked up a pair of new Monitor 7 v7s for $249 each to go in place of my Mini Monitor v6s as fronts in a 5.1 system, powered by a Yamaha V663. The Mini Monitors on stands were not exactly friendly for the toddlers I have in the house. I also have a Sub 10 v7, and Atom Monitor v7's mounted from back ceiling as rear/side surrounds. It's all being used in a medium-sized living room, about 17' long and 14' wide, with one of the 14' sides being relatively open into a kitchen, but with a big beam coming down from the ceiling and a bar that together contain some of the sound in the living space.

It's a combo home theater and music-listening room, so I'm excited to now have the Monitor 7s.

My current center is a Paradigm CC-190. I'm wondering, should I wish to upgrade that (does it make sense?), which Paradigm Center most makes sense? Without negotiation, and while they last, I'm able to get a Center 1 v7 for $199, or a Center 3 v7 for $299.

Any thoughts on which center would match best with the Monitor 7's, or if I should sit tight and see how it works as is?
Get the Centre 3 v7. Centre is by far the most important speaker for HT.

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