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Next up calibration I guess? Running the X-850 which supports PBK. I have to order the kit for that right?
Looked like it. I'm surprised it wasn't included with the X-series.
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Is any one familiar with the paradigm PW 2200?
My local high end A/V store has one as they took it in as a trade in. They are asking $200 for it I'm not sure if that's a good price for a sub that's nearly 20 years old. The guy on the phone said it was in pristine condition. I don't think they would treat me bad with it because this store has extremely high end audio equipment. I'm talking about hi and McIntosh plus $15,000-$20,000 speakers. What are your thoughts? I also have the SVS SB 1000 as my other sub in mind.
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Is any one familiar with the paradigm PW 2200?
My local high end A/V store has one as they took it in as a trade in. They are asking $200 for it I'm not sure if that's a good price for a sub that's nearly 20 years old. The guy on the phone said it was in pristine condition. I don't think they would treat me bad with it because this store has extremely high end audio equipment. I'm talking about hi and McIntosh plus $15,000-$20,000 speakers. What are your thoughts? I also have the SVS SB 1000 as my other sub in mind.

Well, looks can be deceiving. It really depends on the mileage, and that might be hard (impossible) to determine. And if you plan on using it hard - difficult to say how much more life the amp will give you. Pushing 20 years gets around the time capacitors might be thinking about retiring. OR it could run for many more years. A bit of a gamble in my opinion, but it might be worth taking a look/listen. And see if they'd give you like a 30-day warranty or something like that, worth asking!
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Is any one familiar with the paradigm PW 2200?
My local high end A/V store has one as they took it in as a trade in. They are asking $200 for it I'm not sure if that's a good price for a sub that's nearly 20 years old. The guy on the phone said it was in pristine condition. I don't think they would treat me bad with it because this store has extremely high end audio equipment. I'm talking about hi and McIntosh plus $15,000-$20,000 speakers. What are your thoughts? I also have the SVS SB 1000 as my other sub in mind.




I wouldn't invest money in a sub with almost 20 years... even for $200/Paradigm.
Save some money and get a newer model.


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I've got a PW-2200 sitting in my basement unused at the moment. I replaced it with a Paradigm Reference Sub 12 many years ago. I really liked it when I had it in my system. It would play loud and clean, and for a ported sub, was quite good for music. The Sub 12 is a different beast, but I never had any issues with the 2200.

If it's in good shape and you aren't concerned about something of that age, $200 doesn't seem that unfair to me. There are many things in audio you could spend allot more on and get no benefit, LOL.
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Is any one familiar with the paradigm PW 2200?
What version?
V1 - 250 watt RMS amp
V2 - 400 watt RMS
V3 - 500 watt RMS

V2 or 3 would probably be a good deal.
V1 I'd pass.
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Putting in an In Ceiling Elite E80-R in my basement HT and using it as a center channel.
Currently using two Studio 60v5 and two In Ceiling CI Pro P80-A as rear surrounds. Will see how it goes. If I don't like it, it will go above the pool table.
I'm thinking that it is a bit cheaper and a lower extension than the regular center channels.
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Hello -

I'm currently running at Atmos system, with the "ground level" being composed of various lines of Paradigm speakers that mostly voice match closely enough, with the exception of my rears.

Up front are some Signature S4 V1s, on J23s.
Sides are Studio 20 v5s on J29s.
Rears are Atom v7s also on J29s.

I'm considering another pair of Studio 20 v5s for the rears, to replace the Atoms.

To be honest the biggest motivator for me to upgrade the rears is the lack of matching aesthetic, but would I actually benefit sonically by doing so, to any significant degree?

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I'm considering another pair of Studio 20 v5s for the rears, to replace the Atoms.



To be honest the biggest motivator for me to upgrade the rears is the lack of matching aesthetic, but would I actually benefit sonically by doing so, to any significant degree?
For movies or multichannel music?

I doubt you'll hear much difference with movies.

But music I expect you'll notice.
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For movies or multichannel music?

I doubt you'll hear much difference with movies.

But music I expect you'll notice.
While I do listen to quite a bit of multichannel music, I have next to nothing that goes beyond 5.1, and I'm asking about the rears, not the sides. So for the purposes of this question, it would be for movies.

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Hello -

I'm currently running at Atmos system, with the "ground level" being composed of various lines of Paradigm speakers that mostly voice match closely enough, with the exception of my rears.

Up front are some Signature S4 V1s, on J23s.
Sides are Studio 20 v5s on J29s.
Rears are Atom v7s also on J29s.

I'm considering another pair of Studio 20 v5s for the rears, to replace the Atoms.

To be honest the biggest motivator for me to upgrade the rears is the lack of matching aesthetic, but would I actually benefit sonically by doing so, to any significant degree?
I run Studio 20's for rears and front height. Rears which were upgraded from Atoms and I noticed an improvement in sound quality for both movies and my 7.1 music.

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Is it worth to update from Studio CC490 v5 to SVS Ultra center speaker? Has not heard SVS center speaker since I am a long time Paradigm speaker fan? I mostly used for watching tv and movies.

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Is it worth to update from Studio CC490 v5 to SVS Ultra center speaker? Has not heard SVS center speaker since I am a long time Paradigm speaker fan? I mostly used for watching tv and movies.

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I’d say go take a listen if you can. I’ve heard various SVS speakers and they are quite good. I also recently purchased Prime Elevations for my Atmos setup and I’m very impressed with them. So much so, that if I were to upgrade the rest of my speakers I would seriously SVS. I’m already thinking about upgrading my subs to SVS.

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I’d say go take a listen if you can. I’ve heard various SVS speakers and they are quite good. I also recently purchased Prime Elevations for my Atmos setup and I’m very impressed with them. So much so, that if I were to upgrade the rest of my speakers I would seriously SVS. I’m already thinking about upgrading my subs to SVS.
A couple of SVS subs would definitely take your PDR's to school. Paradigm Defiance X series subs would also be a big step up.
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A couple of SVS subs would definitely take your PDR's to school. Paradigm Defiance X series subs would also be a big step up.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. And I thought I was done upgrading.....shame on me

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Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. And I thought I was done upgrading.....shame on me

Is one ever truly done upgrading.....? FWIW, I love my SVS subs (not a fan of the grills though, so I run them nude....).

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A couple of SVS subs would definitely take your PDR's to school. Paradigm Defiance X series subs would also be a big step up.
A friend of mine has dual Defiance subs, and REW measured them going down to only 25Hz. A PB1000 or PB2000 would easily outperform them...
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A friend of mine has dual Defiance subs, and REW measured them going down to only 25Hz. A PB1000 or PB2000 would easily outperform them...
That's disappointing for how much they're going for. The X15 & X12 claim an 18hz & 20 hz F3 respectively whereas the X10's F3 is 29hz according to Paradigm's web site. I'd be very upset if I spent $1650 for a sub and couldn't get 20 hz out of it.

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That's disappointing for how much they're going for. The X15 & X12 claim an 18hz & 20 hz F3 respectively whereas the X10's F3 is 29hz according to Paradigm's web site. I'd be very upset if I spent $1650 for a sub and couldn't get 20 hz out of it.
An advantage to the Defiance series is the ability to run ARC Mobile / ARC Genesis with them. I have the X12 and ARC Genesis was able to correct down to 15 HZ, with a fairly flat corrected response down to 20 HZ.
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An advantage to the Defiance series is the ability to run ARC Mobile / ARC Genesis with them. I have the X12 and ARC Genesis was able to correct down to 15 HZ, with a fairly flat corrected response down to 20 HZ.
It could be achieved with the Audyssey remote app now. That said, I've never used the Paradigm remote app, so no idea how the would compare. It does however allows someone with a $500-600 sub more freedom to adjust setting without having to spend $1500 + for a sub with remote app.

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PW600 goes in and out from wifi

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So I have two Paradigm PW600's. Both are connected to my wireless router. The one closest to the router keeps on disappearing from my list of Play-Fi speakers in the Play-Fi app. And it's always the slowest to register on the ARC Genesis page. I've tried rebooting, factory reset, 2.4 Ghz, 5 GHz. But nothing works. Any idea how to fix this issue? Thanks!
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A friend of mine has dual Defiance subs, and REW measured them going down to only 25Hz. A PB1000 or PB2000 would easily outperform them...
Are those X-series Defiance subs though? I wouldn't doubt at all that one of the lower series Defiance would not measure past 25 Hz. My X12 easily gets to 20 Hz in my room with ARC, and at very satisfying levels. That sub is seriously the bee's knees.

And I got a pretty nice 26% off of list on all of my Paradigm speakers. It's what hooked me into even demoing the X12 in the first place.
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So I have two Paradigm PW600's. Both are connected to my wireless router. The one closest to the router keeps on disappearing from my list of Play-Fi speakers in the Play-Fi app. And it's always the slowest to register on the ARC Genesis page. I've tried rebooting, factory reset, 2.4 Ghz, 5 GHz. But nothing works. Any idea how to fix this issue? Thanks!

Interesting that it is the one closest to the router, but I'd swap it with the other one and just see what happens. If the problem follows the unit, then maybe something buggy with the unit. If the problem does not follow and attaches to the new one, then something about the location, perhaps some kind of interference or other weirdness.

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So I have two Paradigm PW600's. Both are connected to my wireless router. The one closest to the router keeps on disappearing from my list of Play-Fi speakers in the Play-Fi app. And it's always the slowest to register on the ARC Genesis page. I've tried rebooting, factory reset, 2.4 Ghz, 5 GHz. But nothing works. Any idea how to fix this issue? Thanks!
are you rebooting your router or the speaker? Hopefully both but see if your router has an auto reboot and set it to do it every few days if possible.

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