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Seems I am this weeks NHT Insider Giveaway winner!
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Seems I am this weeks NHT Insider Giveaway winner!

Excellent.

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I won a pair of SuperZero 2.1s from NHT last year. And I never win anything.

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What did you win?
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What did you win?
I got a pair of their Superbud IEMs, was hoping for some Classic 4s!
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I got a pair of their Superbud IEMs, was hoping for some Classic 4s!
Still awesome to get something for free! Congrats! How do they sound compared to other brands you have tried?

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Still awesome to get something for free! Congrats! How do they sound compared to other brands you have tried?
I haven't gotten them yet, but I'll be sure to let you know. I have never tried other IEMs, more of an over-ear guy

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I haven't gotten them yet, but I'll be sure to let you know. I have never tried other IEMs, more of an over-ear guy
Same here. I have over-ears from AKG, Audio Technica, V-Moda, and some others (. A few IEM's, but don't use them much (plus the free ones that always come with cell phones - not great for music). I prefer full circumaural design (around the ear so it doesn't touch the ears, much more comfortable for long term use).

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I got a pair of their Superbud IEMs, was hoping for some Classic 4s!
When will you receive them? I could never buy those but wouldn't mind winning some. I buy the cheap ones at Best Buy, Skull candy? $10 is plenty cause they always end up breaking on me.

Lol, who wouldn't like to win a set of Fours!?
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Speaking of Fours, they seem to be outshining my new sub. Not sure if they are that good or if my sub isn't performing to its full potential. Even adjusted the XO to 80hz and they still sound better than my sub.... I was told to try and XO at 100-120hz. I played around in 2-channel mode and bumped the sub trim up to -6 and finally 0 to see what it could do. When it was on 0 it was intense but it didn't blend in with my speakers.

Right now I'm thinking I need to move my sub around to another location. I did the sub crawl and found 2 locations where it stood out. I picked the one that fit in with our living room. If I get some alone time tomorrow I'll push it to the other location. Any other tips??
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Speaking of Fours, they seem to be outshining my new sub. Not sure if they are that good or if my sub isn't performing to its full potential. Even adjusted the XO to 80hz and they still sound better than my sub.... I was told to try and XO at 100-120hz. I played around in 2-channel mode and bumped the sub trim up to -6 and finally 0 to see what it could do. When it was on 0 it was intense but it didn't blend in with my speakers.

Right now I'm thinking I need to move my sub around to another location. I did the sub crawl and found 2 locations where it stood out. I picked the one that fit in with our living room. If I get some alone time tomorrow I'll push it to the other location. Any other tips??
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Anything above 80 Hz is too high for the Fours IMO. The Fours play pretty solid down to 30 Hz and lower. Do try to optimize you sub first. Then try a lower XO to see if you like it better. For me with 2 channel music, both the 60 Hz and 40 Hz settings sounded best (having the sub play the lower octaves). For movies, I couldn't tell much of a difference.

After you optimize sub location and re-run Audyssey, play with your XO's. Also, you may want to first optimized the phase of your sub (before running Audyssey) if it has phase control (some only have just a reverse of 180 degrees). You'll then have to re-run Audyssey and you'll notice a difference in the sub distance. Sometimes tweaking the sub distance will also help, but Audyssey is pretty good at getting the acoustical distances correct.

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Just moved my 2.9's to a new home and removed the grills for packing. I discovered that the black foam long oval piece next to the midrange and tweeter is disintegrating (terrible black mess on the floor). How important is that foam piece...and if it's important, how do I replace it?
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Call NHT, they may have a replacement or suggestion. The foam strip absorbs the sound that would reflect off the baffle smearing it a bit (reduces the mix of direct and reflected sound from the tweeter). Take it off and see it it makes a difference to you. I've also used tweeter felt rings from Madisound to accomplish the same thing. You can also go to the hardware store and get the most dense foam stripping and cut to size. They're in the section for insulating doors/windows. There is one made for sitting camper shells on truck beds that is a dense foam.
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Hey all, just wanted to post here before classifieds. I have a pair of NHT Classic Two (black) speakers that I am going to try and sell.

I upgraded to the Threes for my front left/right. Was going to re-purpose the Twos to complete a 7.2 set-up but after consideration, mounting them to the sides are going to be too tedious. They are in mint condition... PM me if interested.
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Got my super buds in last night, they are built well and feel really solid. That said, maybe it's just me but I can't get them to stay in my ears. They came with a half dozen different size tips, and even some tacky foam ones, but everything falls out or doesn't give me a good seal.

They have a good sound if you hold them in, but until I can find a way to keep them in my ears, they aren't going to get much use.

They are metal and heavier than your typical plastic ear bud, so maybe that is part of the problem with staying in.
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Got my super buds in last night, they are built well and feel really solid. That said, maybe it's just me but I can't get them to stay in my ears. They came with a half dozen different size tips, and even some tacky foam ones, but everything falls out or doesn't give me a good seal.

They have a good sound if you hold them in, but until I can find a way to keep them in my ears, they aren't going to get much use.

They are metal and heavier than your typical plastic ear bud, so maybe that is part of the problem with staying in.
I ALWAYS have problems with ear buds, no matter what brand. Same issue, they fall out. I see many people running with them and wonder how they stay in. Guess I don't have ears designed for them.
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So, I recently decided it was time to get some more capable subs for our media room. I went with a pair of PSA S3000I. They should be in on Monday but I may not be able to hook them up until Aug 5th as we're going out of town for a family vacation (visiting some family in Portland, (OR). The S3000I's look fairly compact considering 2-15" drivers. They are sealed which I prefer so we'll see how well they integrate.
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I ALWAYS have problems with ear buds, no matter what brand. Same issue, they fall out. I see many people running with them and wonder how they stay in. Guess I don't have ears designed for them.
Yeah I have no idea how they are supposed to stay in. I can wear those Apple Earpods (or whatever they call them), but these are a no go so far.

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So, I recently decided it was time to get some more capable subs for our media room. I went with a pair of PSA S3000I. They should be in on Monday but I may not be able to hook them up until Aug 5th as we're going out of town for a family vacation (visiting some family in Portland, (OR). The S3000I's look fairly compact considering 2-15" drivers. They are sealed which I prefer so we'll see how well they integrate.
What are you upgrading from? Those PSA's should be fantastic!

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What are you upgrading from? Those PSA's should be fantastic!
I currently have 2 NHT W1's (so really good, but falls off quickly below 20 Hz). They each have their own X1's with the 20Hz Mod (otherwise the lower shelf would be 26Hz). They are both powered with an Emotiva XPA2. They are excellent for music and pretty good for almost all movies but just can't hit below 20Hz with authority and a lot of the newer movies have that. The PSA's won't be much larger so should fit nicely. Basically the same design with built in amps, larger drivers, and much more headroom.

Without electronics, the W1's are 76 lbs, that's a lot just for 2-12" drivers and the cabinet. The PSA's are heavier of course since it's larger and includes the amp. Tom from PSA gave me a discount for purchasing the two and is extremely quick as responding to emails (have had the same luck with NHT also, direct emails from Chris).

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Fantastic! They should offer that sub-20hz bass that you can really feel! PSA fantastic, and everything is built in the USA too.

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Fantastic! They should offer that sub-20hz bass that you can really feel! PSA fantastic, and everything is built in the USA too.
That's another reason for me choosing PSA. I wish NHT would bring production back here. The last series totally made here was the 2.5i / 1.5. NHT also needs to work on making a sub that can compete with PSA, Outlaw, HSU, etc. Their current subs are great for music, but not quite good enough for that gut-wrenching bass for a lot of newer movies.

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So, I recently decided it was time to get some more capable subs for our media room. I went with a pair of PSA S3000I. They should be in on Monday but I may not be able to hook them up until Aug 5th as we're going out of town for a family vacation (visiting some family in Portland, (OR). The S3000I's look fairly compact considering 2-15" drivers. They are sealed which I prefer so we'll see how well they integrate.
Oh man Cav I'm seriously jealous! You are really in for a serious treat!

I am loving the dual V1500's. Sometimes I wish I would have gotten dual S3000i's or known that Tom was going to make V3600i's.... which probably would have been too big anyway.

Anyhow, I can't wait to hear your impressions. If I remember right, you have a pretty compact room? You gonna put them behind the couch like your previous subs?

I've been working on a DIY Dayton UM kit for my bedroom. I think I'll be starting another here in a few months (dual 15" UM in the bedroom???? That's serious stuff right!)

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I'm surprised nobody here has commented on the announcement on www.nhthifi.com. Classic and Absolute models will be phased out, and new models incl. ones that support Atmos will be introduced.

The way the new products are described makes me see an NHT soundbar in the future

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I'm surprised nobody here has commented on the announcement on www.nhthifi.com. Classic and Absolute models will be phased out, and new models incl. ones that support Atmos will be introduced.

The way the new products are described makes me see an NHT soundbar in the future
Interesting, just read that a little bit ago. Hopefully improved models!

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Oh man Cav I'm seriously jealous! You are really in for a serious treat!

I am loving the dual V1500's. Sometimes I wish I would have gotten dual S3000i's or known that Tom was going to make V3600i's.... which probably would have been too big anyway.

Anyhow, I can't wait to hear your impressions. If I remember right, you have a pretty compact room? You gonna put them behind the couch like your previous subs?

I've been working on a DIY Dayton UM kit for my bedroom. I think I'll be starting another here in a few months (dual 15" UM in the bedroom???? That's serious stuff right!)
Jhughy,

That's awesome, great cabinet work! I'll have to get back into building some in the future, I remember how much fun it was. Dual 15" UM would be awesome in the bedroom...

Yes, I'll be placing the S3000i's where the current ones are, they should easily drop right in. Yes, the room is pretty compact and heavily treated (probably too much, but it makes the room sound much larger than it is). It was an extra room and the only one I could make into a dedicated media room. We've actually been looking at some houses, but may not be serious about moving until next summer. Just been looking at what can be had for the $$$ in our area (lots of open houses every weekend).
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Jhughy,

I looked up the V3600is, huge subs!!! If I had the room and $$$ I'd love a pair of T-18s. I really loved sealed subs, and these would be the ultimate! I can dream...

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The way the new products are described makes me see an NHT soundbar in the future
I missed that, but I will have to say, it's about time. This thread is within one month of being 10 years old.

Very curious to see what they come up with, although for me, Atmos is a non-starter.
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I looked up the V3600is, huge subs!!! If I had the room and $$$ I'd love a pair of T-18s. I really loved sealed subs, and these would be the ultimate! I can dream...
I don't think you are going to be even slightly disappointed with a pair of S3000i's!

If I were to do it all over again I think I would have opted for them over a pair of V1500's (budget though....)

What receiver do you have? I am considering upgrading my AVR to XT32 or MCACC pro (Pioneer SC-85? or Denon X4200W?)

The dual sub EQing is a must I feel. I'm not really interested in trying to learn REW again to do it myself. I spent one night (about 3 hours) walking myself through the popular REW guide and I felt more lost about EQing afterward than before. I think I'll just run Adyssey or MCACC and if I feel it sounds good I'll consider it done.
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I don't think you are going to be even slightly disappointed with a pair of S3000i's!

If I were to do it all over again I think I would have opted for them over a pair of V1500's (budget though....)

What receiver do you have? I am considering upgrading my AVR to XT32 or MCACC pro (Pioneer SC-85? or Denon X4200W?)

The dual sub EQing is a must I feel. I'm not really interested in trying to learn REW again to do it myself. I spent one night (about 3 hours) walking myself through the popular REW guide and I felt more lost about EQing afterward than before. I think I'll just run Adyssey or MCACC and if I feel it sounds good I'll consider it done.
I do use REW just for verification of my frequency response and room response (decay, etc.) but do not use it to EQ the room. For me, I think Audyssey really is the best auto room correction at the moment (XT32 that is). Yes, XT32 is pretty awesome! At the moment I'm still using the A100 (same as the 4311CI) with XT32. It does a great job of EQing 2 subs. I've set up MCACC (Pioneer), YPAO (Yamaha), Sony's version, and H&K's version and still prefer Audyssey. It does a great job. Many feel that you loose some bass, and that's because most folks are used to very hot bass. Easy fix- after running Audyssey just add +3db or more to the subs. I do use Audyssey Pro. I'm waiting to upgrade my AVR when all the newest formats are added. The process is happening now, so I will wait until next year. If not using Atmos, I think the best deal is the AVR-4520CI which was originally their flagship AVR with XT32 when it came out. It was $2500 at the time an can be had new for $1100 from accessories4less:

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I think your pair of V1500's would be pretty awesome and in most rooms won't be any different than a pair of S3000i's. The output specs are pretty close. I can't wait to have them in, as you stated, I don't think I'll be disappointed at all.

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Albuquerque, NM
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Just moved my 2.9's to a new home and removed the grills for packing. I discovered that the black foam long oval piece next to the midrange and tweeter is disintegrating (terrible black mess on the floor). How important is that foam piece...and if it's important, how do I replace it?
Get these from Steve. They are EXCELLENT, he also provides great instructions on how to really clean up and replace them. I bought some for my 3.3's . Between a very good cleaning and waxing (car polish and car wax), putting on new grill covers (get the good stuff from Parts express, the cheaper stuff looks brown) and these foams... my 3.3's are honestly looking like a 9.5/10 scale.

The foam may be relatively cheap, but getting the ends round like that is no small task. If you want, I'll post up some pictures of mine after putting them on there.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NHT-2-9-3-3-...item43e021a226

Steve is the sellers name, these foams are the real deal.
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