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Very nice and clean! What speaker mounts are you using for your front heights and center channel?
Thanks...if my wife would let me i would put a projector in the room because i like the cinematic effect of projectors when watching movies...i was also cosidering a bookshelves for fronts so i could put two big ported subs on the left and right spot in the room but then i decided on sealed to stay with towers and also the living room is on the small side so i get a pretty high room gain and it sounds much better than with the previous ported sub which sounded boomy in my room...oh and the mounts are just simple L shaped consoles for shelves very cheap and effective especially if they are not so intrusive or if you can hide them like i did

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Thanks...if my wife would let me i would put a projector in the room because i like the cinematic effect of projectors when watching movies...i was also cosidering a bookshelves for fronts so i could put two big ported subs on the left and right spot in the room but then i decided on sealed to stay with towers and also the living room is on the small side so i get a pretty high room gain and it sounds much better than with the previous ported sub which sounded boomy in my room...oh and the mounts are just simple L shaped consoles for shelves very cheap and effective especially if they are not so intrusive or if you can hide them like i did
Those wire management things are pretty nifty huh? I bought several packs from Amazon. I forget the brand.

A link would be nice! Sorry, I suppose I'm lazy or I see something that looks very nice and want to see exactly what it is

What size is your room? With a good amount of room gain, you might want to stay sealed and grab larger sealed subs. You will have much more extension with sealed, and if you go ported, your room correction might just start shaving off dBs of output at the port tune of the big bad ported subs meaning you could get the desired output level with a sealed sub.

I know output levels can be adjusted to your liking, I'm just trying to get you another headache to deal with

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Those wire management things are pretty nifty huh? I bought several packs from Amazon. I forget the brand.

A link would be nice! Sorry, I suppose I'm lazy or I see something that looks very nice and want to see exactly what it is

What size is your room? With a good amount of room gain, you might want to stay sealed and grab larger sealed subs. You will have much more extension with sealed, and if you go ported, your room correction might just start shaving off dBs of output at the port tune of the big bad ported subs meaning you could get the desired output level with a sealed sub.

I know output levels can be adjusted to your liking, I'm just trying to get you another headache to deal with
Ammmm thanks i already feel a headache because i want two of PSA S3600 ...if i lived in the states maybe i would have them...no seriously i am very happy with the setup and also i want the subs to serve me for at least a decade because they are expensive here in Europe but i wanted two and it seems that they are running everything i throw at them with ease. I usually listen at -15 and very rearly at -10 and i run the ultras 6db hot without dynEQ engaged if i watch a movie with dynEQ i put it 4db hot and ref.level offset at -5 because i dont like boosted surrounds...i think i might change next year the receiver for yamaha 2060? because i like the sound of their DSP effects (i tried sony DCS and i liked it) and i am constantly playing with audyssey settings and it is getting on my nerves .My room is around 1600 cubic feet and i think i will stay with sealed because as i said i like the sound better with sealed sub in my room...
I guess you are just lazy (sorry i had to ) because everything you see is pretty simple...wires are put in the simple how should i say plastic strip for laying electric or spiker wires i hope you know what i mean...i am fairly good with english but sometimes it is just hard to explain as i cant find the proper words in my head

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Just added the center speaker to at least get my main L-C-R trio all the same. KEF R500 for L-R, new center is a KEF R200C. For the forseeable future the rears of the 5.1 system are the KEF iQ10's that my younger son had gifted me, though I hope to upgrade those to R100 and add a pair of R800ds dipole to round out a true 7.1 system next spring.





The subwoofer is a new SVS SB1000 and because I'm really a fellow who engages 90% of the time in 2.1 music source, the smooth tight bass curve of that unit is ideal for my needs. Last week I had upgraded the TV to a Samsung UN55H6500 and got it away from the wall by 17". That's right to the back of the 10.7" deep speaker and fits nicely in between them. Loving it!
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Just added the center speaker to at least get my main L-C-R trio all the same. KEF R500 for L-R, new center is a KEF R200C. For the forseeable future the rears of the 5.1 system are the KEF iQ10's that my younger son had gifted me, though I hope to upgrade those to R100 and add a pair of R800ds dipole to round out a true 7.1 system next spring.





The subwoofer is a new SVS SB1000 and because I'm really a fellow who engages 90% of the time in 2.1 music source, the smooth tight bass curve of that unit is ideal for my needs. Last week I had upgraded the TV to a Samsung UN55H6500 and got it away from the wall by 17". That's right to the back of the 10.7" deep speaker and fits nicely in between them. Loving it!
Nice looking setup you have there...those KEFs really looks gorgeous...oh and i love the minimal style of furniture

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My individual setups:
Living room
- Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5
- several Anthony Gallo Strada
- several Magnat Interior 5001 centers as surround speakers
- several Nubert subs AW-1300 (DSP) and AW-1000

Offices
- several pairs XTZ 99.26
- several pairs Canton subs 85.2 SC

Home cinema (13(+2).4)
- 3 pairs Magnat 705
- Magnat 703
- Magnat 716
- 2 pairs Magnat Interior IC-82
- 4x Magnat subs 730A

Master bed room
- 2 complete Magnat Interior 5001 setups in a 7.2 arrangement
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Just added the center speaker to at least get my main L-C-R trio all the same. KEF R500 for L-R, new center is a KEF R200C. For the forseeable future the rears of the 5.1 system are the KEF iQ10's that my younger son had gifted me, though I hope to upgrade those to R100 and add a pair of R800ds dipole to round out a true 7.1 system next spring.

The subwoofer is a new SVS SB1000 and because I'm really a fellow who engages 90% of the time in 2.1 music source, the smooth tight bass curve of that unit is ideal for my needs. Last week I had upgraded the TV to a Samsung UN55H6500 and got it away from the wall by 17". That's right to the back of the 10.7" deep speaker and fits nicely in between them. Loving it!
I really love this line from KEF. The simplicity of the drivers just look beautiful.

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My individual setups:
Living room
- Anthony Gallo Reference 3.5
- several Anthony Gallo Strada
- several Magnat Interior 5001 centers as surround speakers
- several Nubert subs AW-1300 (DSP) and AW-1000

Offices
- several pairs XTZ 99.26
- several pairs Canton subs 85.2 SC

Home cinema (13(+2).4)
- 3 pairs Magnat 705
- Magnat 703
- Magnat 716
- 2 pairs Magnat Interior IC-82
- 4x Magnat subs 730A

Master bed room
- 2 complete Magnat Interior 5001 setups in a 7.2 arrangement
Would love for you to blow up this thread with a million pictures! And I'm sure many others would as well
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I really love this line from KEF. The simplicity of the drivers just look beautiful.



Would love for you to blow up this thread with a million pictures! And I'm sure many others would as well
Trust me when I say they sound every bit as good as they look, if not BETTER.


I'm in pain not being able to round out the system with R100 and R800ds for a little while.
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Yup i did now sorry i guess i didnt see it because of the adblocker and ghostery in the CHROME ...i thought you were mad i called you lazy

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Just added the center speaker to at least get my main L-C-R trio all the same. KEF R500 for L-R, new center is a KEF R200C. For the forseeable future the rears of the 5.1 system are the KEF iQ10's that my younger son had gifted me, though I hope to upgrade those to R100 and add a pair of R800ds dipole to round out a true 7.1 system next spring.





The subwoofer is a new SVS SB1000 and because I'm really a fellow who engages 90% of the time in 2.1 music source, the smooth tight bass curve of that unit is ideal for my needs. Last week I had upgraded the TV to a Samsung UN55H6500 and got it away from the wall by 17". That's right to the back of the 10.7" deep speaker and fits nicely in between them. Loving it!

Nice set-up and also love the look of the outriggers on the towers


Have you tried to angle-up the center a little bit?
If not and want my instruction on how to do so, quote me, or PM me.
I will be more than happy to post them again, instead of you looking for them on other treads.


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Thanks Ray!


What benefit would I find in doing that? The Uni-Q does have excellent dispersion, one of the myriad reasons I went with the KEF speakers. I can test by just putting something under the front of the center speaker, and I'm interested in knowing more about your solution.


BTW, the "outriggers" on the R500 floorstanding speakers are the "factory" supplied item, not something I came up with. I do think about embellishing with something I could make in my machine shop out of solid stainless steel though.
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Ok..I'll play.
I have in a dedicated Theater.
Ft L&R..
Mirage OM-5's
Center..
DefTech CLR3000
Sides L&R..
DefTech CLR2500
Back L&R..
Mirage OM-5's

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Emotiva
2 XPA-1 Mono blocks for front OM-5's
Emotiva
XPR-5 for the rest of the speakers.

Preamp/processor..
Emotiva UMC-200

DVD..
OPPO 103D zone free

Projector..
Panasonic AE-4000

Screen..
Elite fixed 135" screen
With DIY automated masking

There's more but you get the idea.
I'd like to update my theater. I recently acquired another set of Mirage om5's to replace my DefTech CLR 2500 side surrounds.
Now I'm running six om5's with the DefTech CLR 3000 center channel speaker.
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I have just upgraded from some old Dali Suite 2.8 and Dali Evidence c70 to kef r series speaker. Like KenM10759 I'm very satisfied. I decided to go with r600c and it blends perfectly with r500. Now I have to save some money for a 3 channel amp to justify those speakers.
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I have just upgraded from some old Dali Suite 2.8 and Dali Evidence c70 to kef r series speaker. Like KenM10759 I'm very satisfied. I decided to go with r600c and it blends perfectly with r500. Now I have to save some money for a 3 channel amp to justify those speakers.
Congratulations! Those are stunning, and having seen the Piano Black High Gloss finish in person (on R700's), I'd have it if not for the huge discount I got on those I have.


What characteristics of the R500/R600C do you enjoy over the previous Dali set?
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I have the CM50 studio monitor speakers...I love them!
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I have just upgraded from some old Dali Suite 2.8 and Dali Evidence c70 to kef r series speaker. Like KenM10759 I'm very satisfied. I decided to go with r600c and it blends perfectly with r500. Now I have to save some money for a 3 channel amp to justify those speakers.

How about this one
https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-3


Descent price, and you will never run out of juice since it is all channel driven at all frequencies
I use a seven channel and two mono block, from Outlaw Audio, but I don't think they make a 3 channel.


Nothing wrong with AVR, but once you go into separate with real power amp.
You will never go back
And from there, maybe a real Audio/ Video processor, but lots of AVR can do a very good job.


Christmas is around the corner, all I want for Christmas is an (talking to your better half, this is how I got all my stuff). XPA-3 and I will pay it my self.


Nice set-up by the way.


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Hey Ray
There's an XPA-3 on Audiogon right now.
There's also one on the Emo Lounge for an even better price.
Maybe an early Christmas present is in order...lol

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Congratulations! Those are stunning, and having seen the Piano Black High Gloss finish in person (on R700's), I'd have it if not for the huge discount I got on those I have.
What characteristics of the R500/R600C do you enjoy over the previous Dali set?
The first thing I noticed when I turn on the music was the bass, it came so much more bass from the r500, and even it was not burned in. The Dali suite is front ported, it may play a role. And the sound was much more crisp, easier to identify instruments in the music. May be placebo, but everything is better, hehe.
I wanted the white r700, but I could not bear the price. And my daughter is 10 month old now, and I am so afraid she is going to use the white speakers as a drawing board. That’s why I bought the black gloss.

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https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-3
Descent price, and you will never run out of juice since it is all channel driven at all frequencies
I use a seven channel and two mono block, from Outlaw Audio, but I don't think they make a 3 channel.
Nothing wrong with AVR, but once you go into separate with real power amp.
You will never go back
And from there, maybe a real Audio/ Video processor, but lots of AVR can do a very good job.
Christmas is around the corner, all I want for Christmas is an (talking to your better half, this is how I got all my stuff). XPA-3 and I will pay it my self.
Nice set-up by the way.
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I live in Norway, and I have to import xpa-3. The shipment will cost from 150-200 dollar and I have to pay 25% tax of the total price. It’s better to find a used xpa-3. I have used so much money lately, so this Christmas would be no more presents for me Just looked at your home cinema, very nice. I have to buy a new house to have a dedicated cinema room. One day I will get there.
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The first thing I noticed when I turn on the music was the bass, it came so much more bass from the r500, and even it was not burned in. The Dali suite is front ported, it may play a role. And the sound was much more crisp, easier to identify instruments in the music. May be placebo, but everything is better, hehe.
I wanted the white r700, but I could not bear the price. And my daughter is 10 month old now, and I am so afraid she is going to use the white speakers as a drawing board. That’s why I bought the black gloss.


I live in Norway, and I have to import xpa-3. The shipment will cost from 150-200 dollar and I have to pay 25% tax of the total price. It’s better to find a used xpa-3. I have used so much money lately, so this Christmas would be no more presents for me Just looked at your home cinema, very nice. I have to buy a new house to have a dedicated cinema room. One day I will get there.

I heard, Norway is a beautiful place.
For the 25% tax, is it a fix price?
If so you at least know how much your end price will be
In Canada, we are at the mercy of the normal tax (Provincial and Federal), than the brokage fee, wish is always a surprise


Most expensive piece of equipment can cost you a lot (normally 15-20%), since they seem to sit at the border the longest
But it is always a guessing game.
I once order a $40 frame for a poster and the fee was $75 (over 100%).


Thank you for the compliment about my room


If I find a power amp for your part of the word, I will come back to you.


Ray


Like I said, at the mercy of the broker, not the tax man.
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I heard, Norway is a beautiful place.
For the 25% tax, is it a fix price?
If so you at least know how much your end price will be
In Canada, we are at the mercy of the normal tax (Provincial and Federal), than the brokage fee, wish is always a surprise


Most expensive piece of equipment can cost you a lot (normally 15-20%), since they seem to sit at the border the longest
But it is always a guessing game.
I once order a $40 frame for a poster and the fee was $75 (over 100%).
Yes, its a fix tax in Norway. So there would not be any surprises. The tax system in Canada is just unbelievable.

Thanks for the offer, just let me know if you could find emotiva amps near Norway.
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Yes, its a fix tax in Norway. So there would not be any surprises. The tax system in Canada is just unbelievable.

Thanks for the offer, just let me know if you could find emotiva amps near Norway.

Fix tax are good to have. You can always budget on price with the exchange, shipping and tax.
For me the Broker fee is the problem.


Anyhow, you can always send them an e-mail to find out if they ship to Europe and have the voltage required for your Country.


I did some search, but could not find anything, that would cost you more.
Maybe if you have access to amazon, you could get the Emotiva through them.
http://www.amazon.com/Emotiva-XPA-3-.../dp/B008O37ELI


I have no idea what is sold in Europe, maybe a member from Europe can help.
All I have found was stuff from
http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Produ...roductId=MC303
http://hometheaterreview.com/parasou...wer-amplifier/
http://www.anthemav.com/products-current/type=amplifier
All on the expensive side, or very expensive.


Even going with 3 mono amp from Outlaw Audio would cost you more
https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/2200.html, I got 2 of these + this one
https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/7700.html as you can see, I like Outlaw Audio product, but also believe Emotiva make nice stuff


Maybe you will have to bit the bullet, and pay more than our US friends.
I think it will be worth-it at the end, unless someone can come with better suggestions.


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Fix tax are good to have. You can always budget on price with the exchange, shipping and tax.
For me the Broker fee is the problem.

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Thanks for the effort Ray. Right now I'm on the budget, so Mcintosh and Parasound is out of reach. The Outlaw 7700 would be perfect in the system, but again it's pricey. The only way is to look after used amps.

Emotiva will ship to Norway, and the statics says that Norway is the top export country for Emotiva. The Norwegian currency has fallen more than 30% this year, so that will cause even higher price for me.

The xpa-3 from amazon would cost me 1364,10 US dollar included shipping cost and tax. That's pay for two get one price.
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Thanks for the effort Ray. Right now I'm on the budget, so Mcintosh and Parasound is out of reach. The Outlaw 7700 would be perfect in the system, but again it's pricey. The only way is to look after used amps.

Emotiva will ship to Norway, and the statics says that Norway is the top export country for Emotiva. The Norwegian currency has fallen more than 30% this year, so that will cause even higher price for me.

The xpa-3 from amazon would cost me 1364,10 US dollar included shipping cost and tax. That's pay for two get one price.

Unfortunately
We are both at the mercy of, money exchange, tax a and duty.


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Hey Ray, in reference to post number 4218, what audio/video processor would you recommend? A budget that fits well with the KEF r700s I suppose.

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My signature explains my setup, but for those whose aren't able to see it that (some phones, apps, tablet, etc.):

Receiver : Denon x4100
Speakers : Martin Logan Motion 40s/Motion 15 (center)/HTD Level 2 (surrounds)
Subwoofer : Dual UM-18s

(Infinity Primus 363s/Pioneer FS52s)

The first pictures shows the completion of my DIY UM-18s (link found in signature)
The 2nd shows the UM-18 with an Infinity 1262 (12" driver) next to it.
The 3rd pictures shows the corner placed UM-18. You can also see some of the drivers peaking out on the Primus 363.
The last pictures shows the subs placed for the first time. I was too excited and took the picture before replacing my speakers and cleaning up

*I'll try to edit and add a couple pics that display the setup better.

I still need to finish hanging some panels. I'm hoping to try out front heights, and dipole rear surrounds on the back wall for a 9.2 setup - waiting for Black Friday though.
I also want to dump the entertainment center and get two component stands so I can push the subs in some, and use a matching tower for a center channel.
I'm also thinking about auditioning some other main speakers. With these subs, my movie watching percentage has just greatly increased






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Front Stage : L/R - Statements by Jim Holtz
Surround Speakers : Klipsch RF-82II x 4 / RP-280F x 2
Subwooferage : 6 UM18/4 HT18 Subwoofer Log

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My signature explains my setup, but for those whose aren't able to see it that (some phones, apps, tablet, etc.):

Receiver : Denon x4100
Speakers : Martin Logan Motion 40s/Motion 15 (center)/HTD Level 2 (surrounds)
Subwoofer : Dual UM-18s

(Infinity Primus 363s/Pioneer FS52s)

The first pictures shows the completion of my DIY UM-18s (link found in signature)
The 2nd shows the UM-18 with an Infinity 1262 (12" driver) next to it.
The 3rd pictures shows the corner placed UM-18. You can also see some of the drivers peaking out on the Primus 363.
The last pictures shows the subs placed for the first time. I was too excited and took the picture before replacing my speakers and cleaning up

*I'll try to edit and add a couple pics that display the setup better.

I still need to finish hanging some panels. I'm hoping to try out front heights, and dipole rear surrounds on the back wall for a 9.2 setup - waiting for Black Friday though.
I also want to dump the entertainment center and get two component stands so I can push the subs in some, and use a matching tower for a center channel.
I'm also thinking about auditioning some other main speakers. With these subs, my movie watching percentage has just greatly increased






EDIT: I found one more pic:

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A new pic as requested earlier just got the 12's and loving them
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