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Hey all, I'm considering grabbing 3 LSIM 703 for my front channels when they go on sale again and had a question. I see the top is curved but are the sides curved as well or flat? The reason I ask is because I'll have the center on it's side as a center channel until I can swing a setup where the center is vertically oriented as well.
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Hey all, I'm considering grabbing 3 LSIM 703 for my front channels when they go on sale again and had a question. I see the top is curved but are the sides curved as well or flat? The reason I ask is because I'll have the center on it's side as a center channel until I can swing a setup where the center is vertically oriented as well.
The sides are basically flat but with a curve at the front. You COULD lay the speaker on its side; however, I would advise against using an LSiM703 in that orientation. Unless, that is, you're the type of person who likes to eat his peas with a knife.

If for some reason you can't fit an LSiM704c in your room/budget (or if you are adamant about having identical L/C/R speakers) I would suggest getting another (cheap/used) placeholder center-channel speaker (e.g., you could pick up the compact but timbre-matched TL3 at the Polk Audio eBay Store for under $150 shipped) or do without one for the time being.

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703s are VG speaker at 40-50% off; love them + have 704c center and it's as good as my more expensive Revel C205.

I would NOT lay a 703 on it side

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Are you guys saying you wouldn't lay an lsim 703 on it's side for aesthetic reasons or you don't think it will sound as good? As good as the 704 and 706 center channels are I would think an identical center would be best for the front soundstage even if it wasn't in it's ideal vertical orientation.
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Are you guys saying you wouldn't lay an lsim 703 on it's side for aesthetic reasons or you don't think it will sound as good? As good as the 704 and 706 center channels are I would think an identical center would be best for the front soundstage even if it wasn't in it's ideal vertical orientation.
three of a kind is better they all need to be in the proper orientation. the center is a nice compromise when you can have your center take up a lot of vertical space.
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Are you guys saying you wouldn't lay an lsim 703 on it's side for aesthetic reasons or you don't think it will sound as good? As good as the 704 and 706 center channels are I would think an identical center would be best for the front soundstage even if it wasn't in it's ideal vertical orientation.
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three of a kind is better they all need to be in the proper orientation. the center is a nice compromise when you can have your center take up a lot of vertical space.
In what world would anyone label the LSiM706c a compromise? That thing is a monster!
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So the LSiM line goes on sale at least once a year. I've been considering a further upgrade to those because they make a size HUGE center channel in that line in the 706C, which I expect will solve the only issue I have with my older LSi's. But I'm wondering if it's worth the money even at 50% off.

Anybody out there have experience with *both* the LSi and the LSiM lines? Care to weigh in?
I'm kinda surprised nobody has responded. Maybe you should try the Polk Audio forum.

I have four LSiM703s and the 706c. The setup sounds pretty good to me, but I have no experience with the prior LSi line.

The LSiM line is available quite often at 50+% off at Adorama. If you're interested, keep an eye on Slickdeals.
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In what world would anyone label the LSiM706c a compromise? That thing is a monster!
It has nothing to do with size, but I thought it was pretty much accepted that 3 identical speakers for your LCR all vertically oriented is going to be the best sound possible. I've been using 3 identical 2 way bookshelf speakers as my LCR for the past few years and I would never go back, the 3 identical speakers create a much more seamless soundstage.
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It has nothing to do with size, but I thought it was pretty much accepted that 3 identical speakers for your LCR all vertically oriented is going to be the best sound possible. I've been using 3 identical 2 way bookshelf speakers as my LCR for the past few years and I would never go back, the 3 identical speakers create a much more seamless soundstage.
Three identical speakers work fine for a LCR setup, however, center channel speakers are designed so that their sound field emanates properly. That is why they have a symmetrical driver compliment with an equal number of mid drivers on each side and tweeters in the middle. You can't go wrong with a center channel from the same series. Go with the biggest center channel you can. 75 percent of a movie comes through that speaker.
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I'm kinda surprised nobody has responded. Maybe you should try the Polk Audio forum.

I have four LSiM703s and the 706c. The setup sounds pretty good to me, but I have no experience with the prior LSi line.

The LSiM line is available quite often at 50+% off at Adorama. If you're interested, keep an eye on Slickdeals.
What are you driving the LSIM"s with when you say they sound pretty good. I have mine pared with a Parasound 5250 and they sound excellent!

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What are you driving the LSIM"s with when you say they sound pretty good. I have mine pared with a Parasound 5250 and they sound excellent!
Right now, the front left and right are being driven by an old Yamaha M-80 that I recently had repaired. The center and rears are being driving by a Yamaha RX-A3040. I'm using the front pre-outs on the 3040 to feed the M-80. I've also got a Denon AVR-X6200W that I had been using when I only had fronts and a center, but it's currently sitting idle.

It sounds good to me, but I don't really have anything to compare it to. I want to get some subs, but the current setup puts on some pretty decent bass. I'm probably not getting much below 50 hz though. I also need to run some room correction software. I haven't done that yet. It will be interesting to see what kind of difference it makes whenever I get around to it.
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I currently use Polk RTi A3s as my front left and right. They are paired with a CSi A6 center and FXi A6 surrounds. I can only do 5.2 due to how my room is set up. I am thinking of replacing the A3s with A9s. Will I notice a difference? I have 2 sealed 18" subs, so the bass from the A9s isn't really a factor. My room is only 12' deep, so the couch and front sound stage are about 9' apart.
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I currently use Polk RTi A3s as my front left and right. They are paired with a CSi A6 center and FXi A6 surrounds. I can only do 5.2 due to how my room is set up. I am thinking of replacing the A3s with A9s. Will I notice a difference? I have 2 sealed 18" subs, so the bass from the A9s isn't really a factor. My room is only 12' deep, so the couch and front sound stage are about 9' apart.
If you are flush with cash and appreciate a large tower in your front sound-stage, then yes. I have the RTiA9s and the difference between them and the A3s from 80 Hz up to about 500 is big. With the CSiA6 center, the RTiA7s or RTiA9s will be a great addition to your sound-stage.

You WILL need an amp if you listen to movies above -15 dB main volume with the RTiA9s. That's another thousand bucks to consider. If you aren't willing to fork over the cash for a dedicated amp, don't spring for the A9s. It will be a waste of time going from the A3s to the A9s without an external 300W or larger amp.

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If you are flush with cash and appreciate a large tower in your front sound-stage, then yes. I have the RTiA9s and the difference between them and the A3s from 80 Hz up to about 500 is big. With the CSiA6 center, the RTiA7s or RTiA9s will be a great addition to your sound-stage.

You WILL need an amp if you listen to movies above -15 dB main volume with the RTiA9s. That's another thousand bucks to consider. If you aren't willing to fork over the cash for a dedicated amp, don't spring for the A9s. It will be a waste of time going from the A3s to the A9s without an external 300W or larger amp.

Half of the visual appeal of a system is the front sound stage size. Some like small speakers while some prefer ultra large, intimidating speakers.
I never really watch anything over -20 dB volume haha. I do like things to be loud, but not sure I'd actually need an external amp. The A3s get louder than I ever listen to them. The visual impact is the main appeal...that and the fact that when I get a larger tv, the bookshelf speakers will no longer fit on my tv stand without touching the tv and the edge, which doesn't seem super visually appealing or safe for the speakers.

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I currently use Polk RTi A3s as my front left and right. They are paired with a CSi A6 center and FXi A6 surrounds. I can only do 5.2 due to how my room is set up. I am thinking of replacing the A3s with A9s. Will I notice a difference? I have 2 sealed 18" subs, so the bass from the A9s isn't really a factor. My room is only 12' deep, so the couch and front sound stage are about 9' apart.
The A9 would be to big for your room the are almost 2' deep and need to be 1-2 feet from the wall.
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Haven't been around regularly but find myself needing some advice.

My first real system was older Polk models -- RT800i mains, CS400i center, RT800i surrounds -- and I was really pleased with it, coming from an HTiB satellite system before that.

Then about 3 years ago I picked up some used LSi7s and the matching center in near mint condition at a really good price, intending to resell and make a little money. But after setting them up for testing purposes before I listed them for sale, I had to keep them for music - I am a musician and music teacher, and as much as I loved the RT800i's for movies and radio listening, when listening to classical music from CD or vinyl you can't beat those ring radiator tweeters for clarity and detail. Music I've played or sung sounds a little like it's on the other side of a blanket on the RTi's - but on the LSi's it sounds close to sitting there in the chorus or band, just like I remember.

So I perused Craigslist and picked up a pair of LSiF/X for surrounds, bought a new AVR with pre-outs, and a used Adcom 5 channel amp in great condition - and that's been my system for over two and a half years now.

Problem: the LSi line only ever came with the one size center channel, which doesn't have a lot of "oomph" to it. The CS400i never had much of a problem presenting dialog even in the summer when the window AC unit is blowing crosswise between my listening position and the speakers. The LSiC struggles with that situation and I wind up adjusting volume and playing with options daily when listening, from late May to early October.

Last week I put the CS400i back in, and it solves the volume/presence problem, but 2.5 years of the better quality speaker means now I even hear the "behind a blanket" issue with dialog and effects in movies.

So the LSiM line goes on sale at least once a year. I've been considering a further upgrade to those because they make a size HUGE center channel in that line in the 706C, which I expect will solve the only issue I have with my older LSi's. But I'm wondering if it's worth the money even at 50% off.

Anybody out there have experience with *both* the LSi and the LSiM lines? Care to weigh in?
I have both. LSiM 703's /704/LSiM FX and LSi 15s plus LSi center. I prefer the LSiMs. But if you are having trouble hearing your LSi center, why not just boost the decibels on the center channel?

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Right now, the front left and right are being driven by an old Yamaha M-80 that I recently had repaired. The center and rears are being driving by a Yamaha RX-A3040. I'm using the front pre-outs on the 3040 to feed the M-80. I've also got a Denon AVR-X6200W that I had been using when I only had fronts and a center, but it's currently sitting idle.

It sounds good to me, but I don't really have anything to compare it to. I want to get some subs, but the current setup puts on some pretty decent bass. I'm probably not getting much below 50 hz though. I also need to run some room correction software. I haven't done that yet. It will be interesting to see what kind of difference it makes whenever I get around to it.
Room correction can make a huge difference in the way they sound i would run it. Also get a subwoofer no matter how loud the bass is from a speaker a sub will be louder and cleaner while doing it and free up power for a dynamic sound.

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Room correction can make a huge difference in the way they sound i would run it. Also get a subwoofer no matter how loud the bass is from a speaker a sub will be louder and cleaner while doing it and free up power for a dynamic sound.
My plan at the moment is to get two SVS SB16-Ultras. It's just a matter of saving up the money and pulling the trigger.
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Did anyone else get an email about the RTi 50% off sale? I'm debating whether or not to pick up a fourth A9 so I'll have an even number of pairs. I guess this means the RTiA's are at the end of their life cycle.
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Did anyone else get an email about the RTi 50% off sale? I'm debating whether or not to pick up a fourth A9 so I'll have an even number of pairs. I guess this means the RTiA's are at the end of their life cycle.
No just 40% off. I don't know if they are end of life they seem to rotate this sale between RTiA and LSIM every so often we might just be seeing the death of the in store business model.
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I never really watch anything over -20 dB volume haha. I do like things to be loud, but not sure I'd actually need an external amp. The A3s get louder than I ever listen to them. The visual impact is the main appeal...that and the fact that when I get a larger tv, the bookshelf speakers will no longer fit on my tv stand without touching the tv and the edge, which doesn't seem super visually appealing or safe for the speakers.
How about the RTI A5's instead? They have a great midrange and you obviously don't need the bass from the 9's. Also, the 5's are easily driven with without an external amp. I have the older version of the 5's (RTI8) and once broken in they have been outstanding for both HT and music.

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How about the RTI A5's instead? They have a great midrange and you obviously don't need the bass from the 9's. Also, the 5's are easily driven with without an external amp. I have the older version of the 5's (RTI8) and once broken in they have been outstanding for both HT and music.
The A5 speakers would be ideal, however the deal in getting on local A9s is really really good. Cheaper than I can get new A5s
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The A5 speakers would be ideal, however the deal in getting on local A9s is really really good. Cheaper than I can get new A5s
If you can get that good of a deal on the A9's, then you should probably do so. Every time I've heard the 9's they were with additional power, but I've always suspected that without they would should similar to the 5's...and since you have plenty of bass already, that wouldn't really be an issue. Also, that allows you to add more power later if you want.

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If you can get that good of a deal on the A9's, then you should probably do so. Every time I've heard the 9's they were with additional power, but I've always suspected that without they would should similar to the 5's...and since you have plenty of bass already, that wouldn't really be an issue. Also, that allows you to add more power later if you want.
So I got the A9s (I knew I would lol, I can't turn down a good deal on amazing speakers!). I also got a Behringer EP1500 so once I get a receiver with preouts they'll have plenty of power on tap. They actually look really good and aren't as imposing as I thought they might be. I'll dial them in tomorrow, but so far without running any calibration at all they sound good, just essentially the same as my A3s. I guess I was expecting them to sound a bit fuller/better. Maybe I'll notice that more once they are dialed in.
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In what world would anyone label the LSiM706c a compromise? That thing is a monster!
I agree the 706c doesn't sound like a compromise at all it actually sounds like i have another 705 as the center lol

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So I got the A9s (I knew I would lol, I can't turn down a good deal on amazing speakers!). I also got a Behringer EP1500 so once I get a receiver with preouts they'll have plenty of power on tap. They actually look really good and aren't as imposing as I thought they might be. I'll dial them in tomorrow, but so far without running any calibration at all they sound good, just essentially the same as my A3s. I guess I was expecting them to sound a bit fuller/better. Maybe I'll notice that more once they are dialed in.
Congrats! Please let us know what you think after dialing them in, and also when you get a receiver with pre-outs.

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If you are flush with cash and appreciate a large tower in your front sound-stage, then yes. I have the RTiA9s and the difference between them and the A3s from 80 Hz up to about 500 is big. With the CSiA6 center, the RTiA7s or RTiA9s will be a great addition to your sound-stage.

You WILL need an amp if you listen to movies above -15 dB main volume with the RTiA9s. That's another thousand bucks to consider. If you aren't willing to fork over the cash for a dedicated amp, don't spring for the A9s. It will be a waste of time going from the A3s to the A9s without an external 300W or larger amp.

Half of the visual appeal of a system is the front sound stage size. Some like small speakers while some prefer ultra large, intimidating speakers.
The A9s definitely look better! And the sound is very good. When watching a movie I don't notice much of a difference (I never got close to maxing out the A3s) but when listening to 2 channel music there is a big difference. I picked up an amp as well but won't buy a receiver with preouts until next year when they include HDMI 2.1

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The A9 would be to big for your room the are almost 2' deep and need to be 1-2 feet from the wall.
They are performing very well only a few inches from the wall. I'm sure they are better when pulled out, but they are at least as good as the A3s they replaced and much better if you consider 2 channel music without a sub.

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Congrats! Please let us know what you think after dialing them in, and also when you get a receiver with pre-outs.
I love them! Definitely not a huge upgrade when watching movies in my current room, but I'm sure when I move to a larger house the added drivers will be beneficial. I may also experiment with crossing my subs at 60hz instead of 80hz.

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Hi all,
Building my mancave in my basement next year. Dimensions are 14x25. Currently have an Onkyo HTIB from 2004 which I'll be completely replacing. More than likely I'll get a Yamaha receiver for about $300 (probably this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yamaha-...?skuId=5784593) Question more pertains to the front soundstage, particularly of the polk variety. I want to get tower speakers and have a budget of $750 for the FR, FL, Center, & Sub. I will be listening to movies 90% of the time. Thinking about the polk monitor 70s which are currently 150/each shipped from amazon. I know this probably sounds dumb but I like the look of them. I really want towers and I love the aesthetics of how that looks with the grill off. I also enjoyed listening to the TSI's in a store last year which I understand are similar?

First, am I wrong about the monitor 70's? I noticed the RTIa7's are twice that ($300/each) on amazon. Are those worth twice the money? If not, is there anything else out there polk wise (or other I suppose) that would fit the criteria? If not, what center speaker option can go with the monitor 70s, as I can't find the CS2 anywhere. The CS1 is available but as I understand it that's only matched to the 60's. Move up to the CSi A6?

Lastly, what would match with the sub? I'm open to options but I just wanted to get some experienced polk enthusiasts to weigh in. Much appreciated!
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Hi all,
Building my mancave in my basement next year. Dimensions are 14x25. Currently have an Onkyo HTIB from 2004 which I'll be completely replacing. More than likely I'll get a Yamaha receiver for about $300 (probably this https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yamaha-...?skuId=5784593) Question more pertains to the front soundstage, particularly of the polk variety. I want to get tower speakers and have a budget of $750 for the FR, FL, Center, & Sub. I will be listening to movies 90% of the time. Thinking about the polk monitor 70s which are currently 150/each shipped from amazon. I know this probably sounds dumb but I like the look of them. I really want towers and I love the aesthetics of how that looks with the grill off. I also enjoyed listening to the TSI's in a store last year which I understand are similar?

First, am I wrong about the monitor 70's? I noticed the RTIa7's are twice that ($300/each) on amazon. Are those worth twice the money? If not, is there anything else out there polk wise (or other I suppose) that would fit the criteria? If not, what center speaker option can go with the monitor 70s, as I can't find the CS2 anywhere. The CS1 is available but as I understand it that's only matched to the 60's. Move up to the CSi A6?

Lastly, what would match with the sub? I'm open to options but I just wanted to get some experienced polk enthusiasts to weigh in. Much appreciated!
You can keep an eye on adorama.com for deals. They had Polk signatures s30,2 x s50 & 2 S10 for 550. You'll have a timbre matched system and much better sound than the monitor series and come in under budget. There's a few other sites to keep an eye on. Slick deals is one I believe. You can also find some better receivers for better deals too. I picked up a Yamaha aventage a660 as an open box item for 10 dollars less and it has more features.

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RtiA are better speakers vs the older Monitor series. Regarding Polk centers stay away from the older ones that have bad reputation. Stick to the CSI A series, light years better for voice clarity; Good luck

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