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post #45151 of 45279 Old 09-20-2019, 01:03 PM
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They certainly are large - the RTiA3s are pushing it in my space, so I can't fathom being able to fit the LSiMs without replacing my current "TV stand" and getting separate stands for the speakers. They are absolutely gorgeous to me, too.

I see it as part and parcel of the trade-offs inherent in speaker technology. You want big sound? By and large (NPI) you're going to want a big speaker/drivers. And, conversely, if you opt for small (i.e., satellite) speakers you are almost certainly going to have to accept a significant compromise in their output. Most of us have been there at several stages on our HT journey.

I probably would have traded up to the LSiM series (or, at the least, upgraded my Rti7/5's for 9/7's) in my HT if I thought my living room could accommodate the larger footprints. As it is, I had my 8-foot wide wall unit refurbished twice in order to fit ever larger and more complex components--not the least of which was the CSiA6 center channel speaker. It was definitely worth all the effort and expense as I can now feel confident that I have the best possible setup I could envision in this room without going to extremes. (Although I suppose some might consider a $4K AVR and a 14-speaker main zone already pretty extreme.)


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No, I am not familiar with the sound of the A9... [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]

I demoed the KEF R11 yesterday - and was very disappointed by its quite "laid back" sound.

I like more "forward" sounding speakers - where it sounds like the singer is singing right in front of you and not back where the speakers are...
Hmm, while I've not heard the KEF's, it sounds like the A9's may be your speaker.....and going for 450 a pop, that's a heck of a deal. I can tell you those three 7" woofers draw power like no other if you use them for H.T. and run them large. I always had mine amped with plenty of power.

If you just use them for 2ch mode for music, I would trust a high powered AVR in 2ch mode to suffice.
When I had the rti12s I dumped 220 watts into them and they wanted more. I used a crown xls 2500 to feed them 600 watts and boy they became a monster.

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When I had the rti12s I dumped 220 watts into them and they wanted more. I used a crown xls 2500 to feed them 600 watts and boy they became a monster.
Long time amigo!!!

Agreed!!! The more power you feed the RTi12's/A9's, the better they "feel"

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600 watts? wow...they're that power hungry?
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How much power would the LSiM 707 need to sound good set as large (full range)? I usually watch movies at 75db on the Denon dial. My (external) amps (not the Denon) got a little warm powering the 703 and 706c set to small crossed-over at 80Hz. The 706c is one day old and getting better. Best center I've heard at this price point (344 bucks).
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600 watts? wow...they're that power hungry?
The A9's are rated at max 500w. They change in sound (less bright) after 300w. I have fed them 1000w and they loved it.

Those three 7" woofers will suck power like a dry sponge, I have watched them milk my 300w stereo amp for all it's worth during Tron Legacy...…..yes, as far as I can tell, the RTi12's/A9's are bullet proof.

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How much power would the LSiM 707 need to sound good set as large (full range)? I usually watch movies at 75db on the Denon dial. My (external) amps (not the Denon) got a little warm powering the 703 and 706c set to small crossed-over at 80Hz. The 706c is one day old and getting better. Best center I've heard at this price point (344 bucks).
I think from 200 to 250 and above (watts) would do good, but if you can get high current, not necessarily watts, you can give that a try.

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Hi all! A couple questions for you.

1) What is the recommended crossover level for LSiM707 fronts when paired with a capable subwoofer? I've got a Power Sound Audio 15V.

2) I've got my LSiM707s paired with a LSiM704c center channel speaker. Any downsides to not pairing the M707s with the 706c center?

Thanks in advance!
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Just remember the louder the volume your listening at with something like the a9, especially set to large, the lower the impedence dips. They get real hungry real fast.

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Hi all! A couple questions for you.

1) What is the recommended crossover level for LSiM707 fronts when paired with a capable subwoofer? I've got a Power Sound Audio 15V.

2) I've got my LSiM707s paired with a LSiM704c center channel speaker. Any downsides to not pairing the M707s with the 706c center?

Thanks in advance!
80Hz is generally the set-it-and-forget-it number. Just have the subwoofer's frequency knob turned to max, and have (again generalyy this is the number) the LFE number set to 120Hz in your the AVR.

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Rare footage of Geoff adding power to his speakers.

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Hi all! A couple questions for you.

1) What is the recommended crossover level for LSiM707 fronts when paired with a capable subwoofer? I've got a Power Sound Audio 15V.

2) I've got my LSiM707s paired with a LSiM704c center channel speaker. Any downsides to not pairing the M707s with the 706c center?

Thanks in advance!
I recommend 40hz to the 707's, and like @Ryan Statz mentioned, 120LFE in the AVR.

I think the most popular is the 80hz statement however, let the big dogs dig low. I always had a great blend between my A9's and the subs going 40hz to the mains.

I don't see a downside with your center compliment. I've heard lots of members going 704 with 707's.

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Just remember the louder the volume your listening at with something like the a9, especially set to large, the lower the impedence dips. They get real hungry real fast.
Man am I slow...…...When did you lose the i12's???

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I'm planning to upgrade my speakers in the next few months and I've had my eye on the Signature series for awhile now. My current setup is in my signature. I was thinking S20 for fronts, S15 for rears and height, and S30 for center. Room is tiny at 1,200 cubic feet. My main question is would there be a major benefit with going with S50's up front instead if I'm crossing my sub at 80hz?

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My main question is would there be a major benefit with going with S50's up front instead if I'm crossing my sub at 80hz?
For a small room, probably not. I think the S20s should be just fine IMO.
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Man am I slow...…...When did you lose the i12's???
Going on 2 years now I've been polkless in the living room. My rt25i bookshelves I had in the master just died the other day too. I always wanted to try the emptek everyone seemed to love. By the time I got around to it, RBH had a new impression line out. And boy, do my ears like them! Sometimes I miss the big towers, but even with 600 watts they were bright for me. I get no fatigue from the RBH's I have now.

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Going on 2 years now I've been polkless in the living room. My rt25i bookshelves I had in the master just died the other day too. I always wanted to try the emptek everyone seemed to love. By the time I got around to it, RBH had a new impression line out. And boy, do my ears like them! Sometimes I miss the big towers, but even with 600 watts they were bright for me. I get no fatigue from the RBH's I have now.
Man time flies!!!!

Interesting. Have you considered the LSiM707's with the incredible sales?? No detected brightness like the A9's but very detailed without being in your face....

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I recommend 40hz to the 707's, and like @Ryan Statz mentioned, 120LFE in the AVR.
Personally, I wouldn't go any lower than 60Hz, but as with anything - stick with what sounds best.

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Personally, I wouldn't go any lower than 60Hz, but as with anything - stick with what sounds best.
No doubt, and of course, set up is relevant to equipment, type of speakers, space, placement etc, etc etc.

I've always had the top of the series speakers i.e, Monitor 70's, RTiA9's and now 707's. Each with it's largest center.

My speakers have always had external amps, as your speakers dig deep into the lower hz areas, there is where the power is needed.

I've tried my settings at 80, 70, 60, 50 even though Audyssey would always set them to 40hz including the center and surrounds, sometimes the surrounds would be set to 70 depending on what speaker I was using and what I was driving them with.

With my subs (two Epik Empires) set to 120 LFE in the AVR, they pick up the LFE at 120, the speakers drop off after 40hz, the blend in bass response was pretty solid.

In my space now, my subs are packed away in the garage, so my mains, 707's are driven with 450w as is my center, 706. the Side surrounds, 702's, are driven with 300w as are my rear surrounds, RTiA9's driven with 300w. The Pre/Pro set them at: Full, 40, 40, 40hz.

The sound is articulate, crisp and detailed and I haven't even put up my acoustic foam yet......which I intend to do but the sound is definitely not hurting any.

So "if" you have the power and the capacity to run at 40hz, by all means, let the big dogs run.....and again, the most important factor is what you mentioned, "stick with what sounds best"
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Man time flies!!!!

Interesting. Have you considered the LSiM707's with the incredible sales?? No detected brightness like the A9's but very detailed without being in your face....

I've been looking at the 703s actually. I bought a house last year and my setup really needs to be bookshelves. But I'm so happy with my current speakers, and rbh offers an upgraded tweeter and mid range if I wanted, so if I do upgrade I'll probably go that route. Now the polk legends look like sex.

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I've been looking at the 703s actually. I bought a house last year and my setup really needs to be bookshelves. But I'm so happy with my current speakers, and rbh offers an upgraded tweeter and mid range if I wanted, so if I do upgrade I'll probably go that route. Now the polk legends look like sex.
Congratulations on your house!!! Very nice.

I have two pairs of the 703's just boxed up for now but you would like them. The top section of the 707, they sound very nice indeed. Once I have the space, I'm thinking of using a pair for a 2ch set up.

The L800, the design suggests no toe in at all. The stereo array is already toed in. Yeah, I'd love to hear the L800....then again, maybe not, I don't need the frustration of wanting a 6K pair of mains

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For a small room, probably not. I think the S20s should be just fine IMO.
That's good to hear. That'll help my budget for a second sub.

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That's good to hear. That'll help my budget for a second sub.
That's probably the way to go.

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picked up a pair of 703's at that great price from adorama. what a beautiful speaker in the cherry version, and they sound pretty damn good as well. at this price level i don't think they can be beat...
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picked up a pair of 703's at that great price from adorama. what a beautiful speaker in the cherry version, and they sound pretty damn good as well. at this price level i don't think they can be beat...
Very underrated speaker, without subs they are hard to beat even at their MSRP in my opinion.
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picked up a pair of 703's at that great price from adorama. what a beautiful speaker in the cherry version, and they sound pretty damn good as well. at this price level i don't think they can be beat...
I'm half-kicking myself for not jumping on them when they were in the low $300 price range in Canada - now, you can't find any of them for less than $760 - $999 per speaker in Canada unless someone can find a site advertising them for less?

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Fyi to all who speak highly of the 703s. I also own a pair purchased ~ 3 years ago at 1/2 open box sale along with 704 center (706 looked too big). They are indeed great looking but we also A/B tested them vs my gorgeous Revel M16s rear surround speakers. I use them w/Revel F206 fronts in our main 5.1.4 set-up.

Both my wife and I preferred the 703s over the M16 as front speakers. The Polks seemed a bit cleaner in mid-range. Anyway, like them both a lot, but the 703s on sale are a screaming audio bargain... Enjoy all
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Hi, can someone recommend a speaker stand for the Polk LSiM 704c center? I think about 16" tall would be about right. It should be sturdy enough to hold the weight of the Polk. Cable management is a plus.
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Fyi to all who speak highly of the 703s. I also own a pair purchased ~ 3 years ago at 1/2 open box sale along with 704 center (706 looked too big). They are indeed great looking but we also A/B tested them vs my gorgeous Revel M16s rear surround speakers. I use them w/Revel F206 fronts in our main 5.1.4 set-up.

Both my wife and I preferred the 703s over the M16 as front speakers. The Polks seemed a bit cleaner in mid-range. Anyway, like them both a lot, but the 703s on sale are a screaming audio bargain... Enjoy all
I got 703s on the the family & friends sale. I have them mated to a rthymik 15" sub, LSiM surrounds, LSi rears. The system sounds awesome

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Hi, can someone recommend a speaker stand for the Polk LSiM 704c center? I think about 16" tall would be about right. It should be sturdy enough to hold the weight of the Polk. Cable management is a plus.
https://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SASFC

This is a 22" but a fine stand. I have two different heights of these stands that I've used for my 703's.

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Does anyone know of a good vendor for Polk replacement parts for older speakers (CS400i, specifically)?

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