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Completely new to home theater, but I am upgrading from an htib system. With that said, I am seriously debating grabbing 3 RBH R56ci speakers to use as my front setup ($600 total - brand new). I will be using this in an open concept 1500-2000 sq ft room. Each side of the main listening area is open. The receiver is a Denon X4300H. 80% HT, 15% gaming, 5% music.

1. Is there any drawback to using centers as LRs (vertically).

2. Would I be better off using 2 R5bi bookshelf speakers for LR instead? ($125/pr)

2a. What about two R55ti towers?

3. I will be getting a subwoofer for my setup but am still undecided. I can get an RBH S12 for $350. Is this a good deal/worth it?

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I have a chance to buy RBH SX-661 L/R and the matching center for $1500 (would have MSRP'd at $2700 for the 3). I currently have a pair of KEF LS50s and am keeping an eye out for an r200c (center) in white to match, or another single LS50. I'm sure the RBH setup would blow the LS50 out of the water for HT, but what about music? Music is more important for me.

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I have a chance to buy RBH SX-661 L/R and the matching center for $1500 (would have MSRP'd at $2700 for the 3). I currently have a pair of KEF LS50s and am keeping an eye out for an r200c (center) in white to match, or another single LS50. I'm sure the RBH setup would blow the LS50 out of the water for HT, but what about music? Music is more important for me.


I have enjoyed t1s. The thing about rbh is every speaker they make us really good. They will be fantastic for music . Blow away kef


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I have a chance to buy RBH SX-661 L/R and the matching center for $1500 (would have MSRP'd at $2700 for the 3). I currently have a pair of KEF LS50s and am keeping an eye out for an r200c (center) in white to match, or another single LS50. I'm sure the RBH setup would blow the LS50 out of the water for HT, but what about music? Music is more important for me.
The RBH Signature series speakers are great for music. I have a pair of SX-61's paired with a SX-12 sub solely for music listening in my front room and love them.
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So I've decided to sell my huge RBH setup, just haven't decided what to replace it with yet, nor where I should try to sell it, nor how much I should ask for it. I figure the smaller speakers I can sell on ebay, but the bigger ones are gonna have to be local, unfortunately. I haven't been on audiogon for so long, don't know if they even get any traffic anymore.


I'll be selling the following 11 speaker setup:


1266-SE Pair (MSRP: $4800 pr)
661-SE Pair (MSRP: $2300 pr)
41-SE Pair (MSRP: $1150 pr)
66-SE Surrounds Pair (MSRP: $2320 pr)
44-SE Surrounds Pair (MSRP: $1650 pr)
6100-SE Center Channel Prototype (MSRP: $3600 ea) (Mine has the same depth of the 1266 towers, vs the shallower depth of the production model)

This system had an MSRP of $15,820 just 5 years ago.


All these are black ash veneer... sonically perfect, the surrounds are cosmetically perfect as well, and the center and towers have a few edge nicks and dings.


This was many thousands of dollars in their day. They were discontinued in 2015, I think these were new in 2010.


Any thoughts on their worth today, or where to try to sell?


EDIT with most recent MSRP...

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So I've decided to sell my huge RBH setup, just haven't decided what to replace it with yet, nor where I should try to sell it, nor how much I should ask for it. I figure the smaller speakers I can sell on ebay, but the bigger ones are gonna have to be local, unfortunately. I haven't been on audiogon for so long, don't know if they even get any traffic anymore.


I'll be selling the following 11 speaker setup:


1266-SE Pair (MSRP: $4800 pr)
661-SE Pair (MSRP: $2300 pr)
41-SE Pair (MSRP: $1150 pr)
66-SE Surrounds Pair (MSRP: $2320 pr)
44-SE Surrounds Pair (MSRP: $1650 pr)
6100-SE Center Channel Prototype (MSRP: $3600 ea) (Mine has the same depth of the 1266 towers, vs the shallower depth of the production model)

This system had an MSRP of $15,820 just 5 years ago.


All these are black ash veneer... sonically perfect, the surrounds are cosmetically perfect as well, and the center and towers have a few edge nicks and dings.


This was many thousands of dollars in their day. They were discontinued in 2015, I think these were new in 2010.


Any thoughts on their worth today, or where to try to sell?


EDIT with most recent MSRP...
This site (AVS), usaudiomart.com, or audiogon.com are all options.
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AFAICT this is the first professional review of an RBH Signature SV product. They love all but the price!

http://www.audioholics.com/bookshelf...reviews/sv-61r
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Do any of you use R56Ci with R5Bi bookshelf speakers as your LCR? I am currently using three R5Bi as my LCR, but it seems the center channel volume level is a bit low, making the movie dialogue a bit unclear unless I crank up the general volume. The center speaker gain level was set to the same level as my L and R by AccuEQ of my Onkyo TX-NR646 AVR. I know R56Ci is a better match for the tower speakers, but I wonder if it will help with dialogue clarity in my setup. Or should I just increase the center speaker gain like 2-3dB in my AVR and keep my 3rd R5Bi as my center? Thanks.
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For a minute I thought the Signature SV is a direct replacement of the Impression 'til I see the price
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For a minute I thought the Signature SV is a direct replacement of the Impression 'til I see the price
They look similar but the price is like 3x. It is said there will be a replacement of the Impression series early next year, but I would be surprised if it is at the same price level. It seems RBH is moving away from the budget EMP products.
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Do any of you use R56Ci with R5Bi bookshelf speakers as your LCR? I am currently using three R5Bi as my LCR, but it seems the center channel volume level is a bit low, making the movie dialogue a bit unclear unless I crank up the general volume. The center speaker gain level was set to the same level as my L and R by AccuEQ of my Onkyo TX-NR646 AVR. I know R56Ci is a better match for the tower speakers, but I wonder if it will help with dialogue clarity in my setup. Or should I just increase the center speaker gain like 2-3dB in my AVR and keep my 3rd R5Bi as my center? Thanks.
I have decided to take the risk and bought a b-stock R56Ci. I figure for $200+tax, it is worth the experiment. In the worst scenario, if I don't like it as a center, I can still use it for the spare drivers for my R5Bi given the Impression series is discontinued.
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Do any of you use R56Ci with R5Bi bookshelf speakers as your LCR? I am currently using three R5Bi as my LCR, but it seems the center channel volume level is a bit low, making the movie dialogue a bit unclear unless I crank up the general volume. The center speaker gain level was set to the same level as my L and R by AccuEQ of my Onkyo TX-NR646 AVR. I know R56Ci is a better match for the tower speakers, but I wonder if it will help with dialogue clarity in my setup. Or should I just increase the center speaker gain like 2-3dB in my AVR and keep my 3rd R5Bi as my center? Thanks.
I have the R56Ci with R5Bi as LR. I started with one R5Bi as my Center on its side. Got a great deal on a slightly used R56Ci so now I have an extra R5Bi. Not sure if it will help your particular situation, I use mine calibrated with Audyssey MultiEQ XT 32 on a Denon x4300h. The LR are powered by an Onkyo TX-NR636 as I have a full 7.2.4 set up through the Denon powering the other 9 channels including the center. Sounds great to me!
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I have the R56Ci with R5Bi as LR. I started with one R5Bi as my Center on its side. Got a great deal on a slightly used R56Ci so now I have an extra R5Bi. Not sure if it will help your particular situation, I use mine calibrated with Audyssey MultiEQ XT 32 on a Denon x4300h. The LR are powered by an Onkyo TX-NR636 as I have a full 7.2.4 set up through the Denon powering the other 9 channels including the center. Sounds great to me!
Do you like your R56Ci more than the R5Bi as the center? Did it improve the movie dialogue clarity? Thanks.
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Do you like your R56Ci more than the R5Bi as the center? Did it improve the movie dialogue clarity? Thanks.
I didn't notice too much of a difference TBH. It does look a lot nicer though!
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I didn't notice too much of a difference TBH. It does look a lot nicer though!
Well, I hope it will help out on the movie dialogue clarity, and I certainly don't mind the new look.
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Well, I hope it will help out on the movie dialogue clarity, and I certainly don't mind the new look.
I'm also thinking about getting the R56ci center to go with my R5bi's up front. Would love to know your thoughts once you get the R56ci set up.
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New RBH customer here. My AV integrator suggested I try the the VM-610 in-walls to replace some really old, no-name speakers that were installed in my house by the previous owner. Liked the way they sound as rear surrounds and decided to replace the front speakers with RBH as well. The fronts being replaced are 18 year-old Monitor Audio Bronze bookshelf speakers. I had RBH build a custom center built to fit my cabinet using their reference drivers. Now, I have to decide on the L/R speakers. I'm leaning towards the SV-6500 or SV-6500R towers, but could go with the SV-61 bookshelfs (since I have two decent subs already). My listening is 80% video (movies & TV) and 20% music.

I've never owned tower speakers before, but the 6500s look awesome.

Any suggestions on the tower models and the tower vs bookshelf choices would be appreciated.

Also have to decide between rosewood & black. That may be the toughest decision to make

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New RBH customer here. My AV integrator suggested I try the the VM-610 in-walls to replace some really old, no-name speakers that were installed in my house by the previous owner. Liked the way they sound as rear surrounds and decided to replace the front speakers with RBH as well. The fronts being replaced are 18 year-old Monitor Audio Bronze bookshelf speakers. I had RBH build a custom center built to fit my cabinet using their reference drivers. Now, I have to decide on the L/R speakers. I'm leaning towards the SV-6500 or SV-6500R towers, but could go with the SV-61 bookshelfs (since I have two decent subs already). My listening is 80% video (movies & TV) and 20% music.

I've never owned tower speakers before, but the 6500s look awesome.

Any suggestions on the tower models and the tower vs bookshelf choices would be appreciated.

Also have to decide between rosewood & black. That may be the toughest decision to make

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It's hard Mark to comment except I would say whatever drivers they included in your "custom center" should be replicated in the L-Rs IMO. As for towers or bookshelfs, that's something of a space question also.

I have both, the towers as fronts and the bookshelf speakers as surrounds, and the center is also the Reference model i.e. all with Heil tweets. I'd think you'd want to be consistent all-the-way-around with your tweeter types.

Oh, and I have the astonishingly beautiful Rosewood finish. Whether Black or Rosewood depends on your decor I suppose--in my case I started with a love affair with the South American Rosewood finish i.e. they are the centerpiece of my HT and I selected furnishings and wall/floor coverings accordingly.

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It's hard Mark to comment except I would say whatever drivers they included in your "custom center" should be replicated in the L-Rs IMO. As for towers or bookshelfs, that's something of a space question also.

I have both, the towers as fronts and the bookshelf speakers as surrounds, and the center is also the Reference model i.e. all with Heil tweets. I'd think you'd want to be consistent all-the-way-around with your tweeter types.

Oh, and I have the astonishingly beautiful Rosewood finish. Whether Black or Rosewood depends on your decor I suppose--in my case I started with a love affair with the South American Rosewood finish i.e. they are the centerpiece of my HT and I selected furnishings and wall/floor coverings accordingly.
So, my custom center has the silk dome tweeter and aluminum drivers like the SV-661, just in a slightly smaller box. That would match up with the the SV-6500 towers. I have always heard the same advice about matching tweeter types and that makes sense. I'm just wondering what I might be giving up by not getting the SV-6500R models. Do you think it would sound weird to have two tweeter types up front? I'm sure I'd be happy with either model (in comparison to my current speakers).

I got a sample of the rosewood and it is pretty sweet. Now just need to convince my chief decorator (i.e., wife)

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i inquired to RBH about getting a pair of the RB5i's for rear surrounds to add to my existing setup but they said i would have to wait for their new line to come out...whenever that happens

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I didn't notice too much of a difference TBH. It does look a lot nicer though!
Holy cow, that's pretty shocking since the R56Ci has so many more drivers and is a 3 way...are you serious?

~ Are you a "geek hobbyist" obsessed with squeezing out that last 5-10% improvement? The economy will thank you...especially the Chinese one. Or are you more of a get-set-and-forget "casual user" who simply wants to increase your enjoyment of movies, TV and gaming? Relax, HT isn't rocket science, nor does it have to cost an arm and a leg---especially if you ignore the aforementioned vocal minority. And remember to smile...it's just a silly hobby, after all. :)
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Holy cow, that's pretty shocking since the R56Ci has so many more drivers and is a 3 way...are you serious?

curious to see why would you guys wanna run the R56Ci's as a L/R?

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curious to see why would you guys wanna run the R56Ci's as a L/R?
L/R? I thought he was just talking about center usage, having the R5Bi as a center vs the R56Ci.

I've used the R5Bi as both a vertical and a horizontal center, and was amazed at how well it did despite its small size.

Would've bought an R56Ci on clearance if they still had it in black.

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L/R? I thought he was just talking about center usage, having the R5Bi as a center vs the R56Ci.

I've used the R5Bi as both a vertical and a horizontal center, and was amazed at how well it did despite its small size.

Would've bought an R56Ci on clearance if they still had it in black.
my bad! i read it wrong. i thought you guys were talking about using 3 R56Ci's as L/C/R
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So, my custom center has the silk dome tweeter and aluminum drivers like the SV-661, just in a slightly smaller box. That would match up with the the SV-6500 towers. I have always heard the same advice about matching tweeter types and that makes sense. I'm just wondering what I might be giving up by not getting the SV-6500R models. Do you think it would sound weird to have two tweeter types up front?
Dunno Mark; but somewhere I read that even the RBH guys were surprised at how the AMT tweets were so much better that they went with them in the R series, even at the higher cost. But whether you can hear during a movie any difference in the soundstage between the center and L/R...?

Depends I suppose on how married you are to the custom center, but I suspect you would be happy keeping it, and sticking with the conventional tweeters.
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Holy cow, that's pretty shocking since the R56Ci has so many more drivers and is a 3 way...are you serious?
I bet if I went back and swapped the center I have now with an R5Bi now, I would notice a difference. I swapped them before I even had Audyssey. I was using them with an old onkyo with their AccuEQ which left a lot to be desired. It's crossed at 80 hz, I don't think I'd be getting too much out of the woofers though?
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I bet if I went back and swapped the center I have now with an R5Bi now, I would notice a difference. I swapped them before I even had Audyssey. I was using them with an old onkyo with their AccuEQ which left a lot to be desired. It's crossed at 80 hz, I don't think I'd be getting too much out of the woofers though?
With the R56Ci as your center, I'd try a 60Hz crossover to see if you can take full advantage of all those extra drivers.

I liked the R5Bi as a center because it had good voice clarity and great dispersion; however, it lacked the tonal fullness of the Wharfedale 10.1 that I'm currently using as a center, which gives male voices much more weight and authority.

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With the R56Ci as your center, I'd try a 60Hz crossover to see if you can take full advantage of all those extra drivers.

I liked the R5Bi as a center because it had good voice clarity and great dispersion; however, it lacked the tonal fullness of the Wharfedale 10.1 that I'm currently using as a center, which gives male voices much more weight and authority.
I'll give it a shot!
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Originally Posted by lsturbointeg View Post
i inquired to RBH about getting a pair of the RB5i's for rear surrounds to add to my existing setup but they said i would have to wait for their new line to come out...whenever that happens
I actually have 2 pair of the RBH RB5i (red burl) bookshelf speakers I can sell... I purchased several pair a few months back to install a small home theater system in the basement in the kids game room, but decided to go with the smaller Eb3 speakers instead...

The 2 pair I can sell are 'new', still sealed in the box, however, they were considered b-stock so may have imperfections in the finish... I did open 1 pair (not the pair I'm offering for sale) that I'm using in my office and didn't see any obvious blemishes at all...

The price would be $150/pair and another $40 shipping (for the pair... $20 each)...

Let me know if you're interested...

On a side note, I know that RBH is working hard on getting the revamped Impressions ready... but I don't think they have a target date for release yet... :-(
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