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I have owned my mirage for quite a few years now and I have an itch to try something new. I currently use some OMD-5 sitting on 2 Ultimax 18s for my mains and an OMD-C2 center with OM-7's for surrounds. I love the huge sound field and off axis response. But, I am super interested in the RAAL tweeter, could anyone comment on Mirage vs any RAAL speakers they may have heard. I am eyeing the Philharmonics or the Sierra's from Ascend Acoustics.
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Man, I can't seem to find Mirage speakers anymore and I can't find any announcement (google-fu or Bing-fu is weak I guess) that if Klipsch stopped making them but I love our 5.1 OS3 w/ SVS sub and our 5.1 nanosat. We have had them now for 10-12 years now respectively and still sounding strong and still love the omnidirectional sound they make.


Just in case they go bad, will Klipsch repair the OS3 and nanosat? Or are there any similar quality speakers out there of this size?
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Hey guys I'm in need of replacement tweeters for a pair of OMD-15's. I've looked all over the internet and still no luck. Does anyone know where I may be able to purchase a pair or is there an alternative to the stock tweeter? I've checked with Klipsch and they said no.
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I have owned my mirage for quite a few years now and I have an itch to try something new. I currently use some OMD-5 sitting on 2 Ultimax 18s for my mains and an OMD-C2 center with OM-7's for surrounds. I love the huge sound field and off axis response. But, I am super interested in the RAAL tweeter, could anyone comment on Mirage vs any RAAL speakers they may have heard. I am eyeing the Philharmonics or the Sierra's from Ascend Acoustics.
My thoughts are if you have a dedicated listening room that has a good sweet spot, the raal equipped speakers can be very pleasing to the ears. If you have a common area type of room or weird shape size issues and don't have a pinpoint sweet spot, omni speakers like mirage are nice.
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Man, I can't seem to find Mirage speakers anymore and I can't find any announcement (google-fu or Bing-fu is weak I guess) that if Klipsch stopped making them but I love our 5.1 OS3 w/ SVS sub and our 5.1 nanosat. We have had them now for 10-12 years now respectively and still sounding strong and still love the omnidirectional sound they make.


Just in case they go bad, will Klipsch repair the OS3 and nanosat? Or are there any similar quality speakers out there of this size?
There's a ton of OS3's out there to be had on the used market. I'd pick up a couple and throw them in the closet for when/if the time comes...you start to have a problem.

This is what I did/do...
I have 3 sets of Mirage's biggest speakers, the OM-5's with their build in power'd subs in my theater. I have two more sets in rough cosmetic shape for parts.
I've never had any problems but I'm ready for when the time comes.
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Hey guys I'm in need of replacement tweeters for a pair of OMD-15's. I've looked all over the internet and still no luck. Does anyone know where I may be able to purchase a pair or is there an alternative to the stock tweeter? I've checked with Klipsch and they said no.
I may be able to salvage a pair of tweeters for you. PM me.

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I am currently in need of two more Mirage OMD-5s in Rosewood. Anyone have a pair they are interested in selling?

I am building my new H.T., 9.4.6 here is what I currently have:

(1)Center Speaker: Mirage OMD-C2
(2)Main Speakers: Mirage OMD-28
(6)Surrounds: Mirage OMD-5
(4)Atmos : Mirage OMD-5 (placed in 12" boxed raised ceiling locations) Need 2 more for future (6) Atmos
(4)Subwoofers: 2-Klipsch R-115SW / 2-Klipsch R-112SW Reference Series

11.2 Home Theater: SPEAKERS: Front Main-Mirage OMD-28's, Center-Mirage OMD-C2, Front High-Mirage OMD-5's, Front Wide-Mirage OMD-5's, Side & Rear Surrounds-Mirage OMD-5's, Subwoofers, (2) Klipsch R-112SW. EQUIP: Receiver:Denon AVR-X8500H, Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-3, Projector:3D Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5030UB, Screen: Draper 3D PREMIER TECVISION 161" HDTV (16:9) XT1800X WHITE, Blu-ray Player:Oppo UDP-203, Gaming: Xbox One X

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Any feedback would be appreciated!


I did it. I got OMD5's for fronts and moved the nano's to surrounds and rears. The improvement was incredible, but the center shrunk and became distracting when sound transitioned to the left or right during movies.

If you want to upgrade to 5's or higher I reccomend you upgrade the center to at least a 5 but ideally a C1, which is what I did, and I am very pleased.

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I am currently in need of two more Mirage OMD-5s in Rosewood. Anyone have a pair they are interested in selling?

I am building my new H.T., 9.4.6 here is what I currently have:

(1)Center Speaker: Mirage OMD-C2
(2)Main Speakers: Mirage OMD-28
(6)Surrounds: Mirage OMD-5
(4)Atmos : Mirage OMD-5 (placed in 12" boxed raised ceiling locations) Need 2 more for future (6) Atmos
(4)Subwoofers: 2-Klipsch R-115SW / 2-Klipsch R-112SW Reference Series
any pictures of your setup?
I just did 5.1.4 with all mirage system nano for atmos speakers(omd 5 for rest and omdc1 center). Im curious how your angling them on the ceiling towards the listening position. Not sure if I should lean them back or forward or straight down(about 9 feet ceilings). I feel like leaning backwards on the ceiling gives best(loudest sound toward the couch 10-11 feet away.

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any pictures of your setup?
I just did 5.1.4 with all mirage system nano for atmos speakers(omd 5 for rest and omdc1 center). Im curious how your angling them on the ceiling towards the listening position. Not sure if I should lean them back or forward or straight down(about 9 feet ceilings). I feel like leaning backwards on the ceiling gives best(loudest sound toward the couch 10-11 feet away.
Here is my build thread:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...ater-room.html

This shows my current plan for this setup. I do plan on mounting all OMD-5's in the upside down position, and mount angled towards the listener.

11.2 Home Theater: SPEAKERS: Front Main-Mirage OMD-28's, Center-Mirage OMD-C2, Front High-Mirage OMD-5's, Front Wide-Mirage OMD-5's, Side & Rear Surrounds-Mirage OMD-5's, Subwoofers, (2) Klipsch R-112SW. EQUIP: Receiver:Denon AVR-X8500H, Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-3, Projector:3D Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 5030UB, Screen: Draper 3D PREMIER TECVISION 161" HDTV (16:9) XT1800X WHITE, Blu-ray Player:Oppo UDP-203, Gaming: Xbox One X
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my parents have a Full set 7.1 of mirage speakers and i have a couple from the early 2000's. Absolutely fantastic speakers but i really wish they would go back to their original designs. I like the up-firing design for surround speakers but not for mains.

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anybody know where I can get a replacement omd 5 or omdc1 tweeter?
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I am currently in need of two more Mirage OMD-5s in Rosewood. Anyone have a pair they are interested in selling?

I am building my new H.T., 9.4.6 here is what I currently have:

(1)Center Speaker: Mirage OMD-C2
(2)Main Speakers: Mirage OMD-28
(6)Surrounds: Mirage OMD-5
(4)Atmos : Mirage OMD-5 (placed in 12" boxed raised ceiling locations) Need 2 more for future (6) Atmos
(4)Subwoofers: 2-Klipsch R-115SW / 2-Klipsch R-112SW Reference Series



https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mirage-OMD-...sAAOSwRfRcjTxL
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anybody know where I can get a replacement omd 5 or omdc1 tweeter?

I'm pretty sure you would have to buy a speaker and salvage the tweeter. I believe Klipsch/Audiovox is out of parts but it might be worth a call.
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Hey guys! Long story short about 5 years ago I had a beautiful Mirage Omni 260 system with the Omni CC, Omni FX’s and Omni 60 bookshelfs with two SVS PB10’s. My wonderful ex-wife sold the whole setup for $500 while I was contracting overseas and about 4 months ago I got back into home theater. Originally I had picked up an ancient but powerful and reliable Sony V444ES with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9.6’s, Diamond 9CC and 4 Moviestar 70+’s with a brand new in the box SW250 10” subwoofer for $250. About two weeks later I sold the Sony for $150 and picked up a pair of Martin Logan Motion 10’s, a Motion 8 CC and a Yamaha RX-V377 for $75. I was in the process of purchasing some Motion 4’s and 2’s and a Motion 30XT until I found a pair of Omni 260 towers, Omni CC & Mirage LF150 for $125 complete with floor duck foot things, owners manual and original boxes. It was a 6hr round trip but the guy literally had them sitting brand new in the box for years and just recently plugged them in about two weeks ago and discovered he likes his Bose Cinemate 130 sound bar much more (I don’t know why that is but it works for me!) so I picked them up, moved the Motion 10’s to the tears for surrounds with the Wharfedale SW250 connected to them via the high level inputs so I have full range sound (I really feel like having tower speakers with some oomph gives you a far more immersive sound stage), the Omni 260’s are my mains with the Omni CC on a Sanus center channel stand and a pair of Definitive Technology ProCinema 600’s I snagged for $42 shipped as in top fronts (there is exposed rafters in my basement and they actually serve their purpose quite well) it’s all running through a Denon AVR-X2200W with an XBOX ONE X or MacBook Air as an input source and a TCLS43517 I picked up for $129.99 during a flash sale. There’s just something about the Mirage Omnipolar sound that I love. I am curious though, I’ve noticed with MultiEQ XT totally off the midrange and soundstage is far more apparent but than when I turn it on with the reference curve the low end and midrange seem to diminish slightly but they sound more complete if that makes sense. What are some of your experiences with Muti EQ XT? And do you prefer it on or off? I attached some pics so you can see my placement. There’s a slight toe in with the mains and surrounds.
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I am curious though, I’ve noticed with MultiEQ XT totally off the midrange and soundstage is far more apparent but than when I turn it on with the reference curve the low end and midrange seem to diminish slightly but they sound more complete if that makes sense. What are some of your experiences with Muti EQ XT? And do you prefer it on or off?
I have owned Mirage speakers for years, moving from OM-9 to OM-7 with C2 and OM surrounds, to the OMNI series like you have now, to my current OMD-28, OMD-C2, OMD-15 setup. I've never had good luck with room correction. It's designed for monopole and maybe dipole speaker dispersion. It always tries to suck the life out of your speakers, particularly with music. I owned a Denon with MultiEQ XT 32 and I always ran it in bypass mode for the front L/R. It worked alright for the center and surrounds, put it made the OMD-28's sound flat and lifeless. I now have an Anthem MRX-520 and I run ARC just below 500Hz and it does a much better job. There is an app for Audyssey on newer Denon and Marantz receivers that I believe will allow you to tailor the frequencies that it operates in, so you might want to give that a try.
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Just upgraded my AVR from the 2200W to the 3300W and my surrounds to a pair of MBS bipolar speakers. So I’ve got a pair of Omni 260’s for mains, an Omni CC for a center channel, the MBS for surrounds and Def Tech Pro Cinema’s attached to my exposed ceiling rafters in front for top fronts (soon to be replaced by Omnisats). I do have to say that using the Multi EQ app I turned off mid range compensation, turned the filter frequency down to 500hz (3,000 on my center channel as it’s right below my TCL 55” 6 series and it needs some EQing) and the sound that I was accustomed to from Mirage returned! It’s so clear, with excellent highs and well defined lows. I was ready to switch to an all Def Tech setup before this as I was so frustrated with the way the Mirages sounded but this seemed to really bring them alive!


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Just upgraded my AVR from the 2200W to the 3300W and my surrounds to a pair of MBS bipolar speakers. So I’ve got a pair of Omni 260’s for mains, an Omni CC for a center channel, the MBS for surrounds and Def Tech Pro Cinema’s attached to my exposed ceiling rafters in front for top fronts (soon to be replaced by Omnisats). I do have to say that using the Multi EQ app I turned off mid range compensation, turned the filter frequency down to 500hz (3,000 on my center channel as it’s right below my TCL 55” 6 series and it needs some EQing) and the sound that I was accustomed to from Mirage returned! It’s so clear, with excellent highs and well defined lows. I was ready to switch to an all Def Tech setup before this as I was so frustrated with the way the Mirages sounded but this seemed to really bring them alive!
I ran Mirage OMD-28 towers for a while along with the OMD-C2 center. I experienced the same thing. The calibration software in the Yamaha AVR I was using at the time completely sucked the life out of them. I remember reading something I found online from a Mirage rep who said the calibration software packages tended to not work well with omnipolar speakers. Basically omnipolar speakers like Mirage rely on reflected sound to produce a realistic sound stage, whereas the goal of the AVR calibration software is to minimize the effect of reflected sound. For this same reason, Mirage speakers do not sound well in a sound treated room. They need the hard surfaces to bounce the sound waves off of. I ended up using the setting on my Yamaha that applied calibration to everything but the fronts and that made a huge difference.

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Question about Mirage Omni CC. So I’ve been using my Omni 260 & CC setup for about a month now. Just ordered a pair of Omni 60’s for surrounds to replace the direct imaging towers I have currently. My question is that I have a dip around 1K HZ. I’ve got MRC turned off and have tried cutting and boosting in that area to no prevail. Any ideas? The CC sits directly under my 55” TCL 6 series at an upward angle as I’ve discovered in my room when it sits flat below the tv the voices don’t sound like they’re coming from the middle of the screen and the CC gets that boxy sound but angled upwards it sounds perfect. I’ve moved the CC onto a Sanus 24” stand with and without floor spikes which give it about a 1.5” boost and the dip persists. I tried moving it 1-3’ feet away from it and it didn’t help. I’m kinda stumped here. I’m fairly new to all the fine tuning and am always open to any ideas or resources any of you guys have. I don’t claim to know everything about anything so any help is appreciated!


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My mains seem fine. For two channel music I turn Audyssey off but for home theater I run it full resolution and it appears to do a great job. The dip used to go down to -10dB or so but I’ve been tinkering with angles and moving stuff around and that’s the best I can get it. I guess my question is, is that much of a dip noticeable as far as A & B comparison listening?
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Does anybody know the difference between the os3 fs and the omnisat v2fs?
I know the surrounds are ribbed and phase plug is different on the os3 line but are these really much different? Same size woofers/midrange and tweeters right? I’d assume the os3’s would be better
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Here is a question for anyone that could help here. I have Mirage M3si speakers. One of the pegs on the side panels is broken off(top one) so the side panels keep coming away from the speaker when I am listening to them.

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I am currently using 5 Mirage Nanosats and BIC Acoustech H2000 Sub with a Yamaha RX-V663 receiver in a 24'x16' room. We primarily use it to watch movies.

The nanosats do a decent job of filling the room but the center channel and main audio are lacking. I am looking at replacing just the center channel and if budget permits the front speakers.

I looked at the following for center channel from Mirage that are being sold on ebay:
1. Nano CC
2. Omnisat V2 CC
3. OS3-CC

I know the Nano CC will match the Nanosats as per the manuals. I am wondering if any of the other two will match the existing nanosats. Also any other outside of Mirage I can use with the Nanosats I can use for center and front speakers that will be effective.

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As a long time former Mirage dealer and user, I'd recommend that you keep a pair of Nansats for the rear and if you can find a pair of OM S3's, use them for front left and right. Some folks are offering good used omnisat V2 center speakers on eBay for about a hundred bucks to complete your system.

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my parents have a Full set 7.1 of mirage speakers and i have a couple from the early 2000's. Absolutely fantastic speakers but i really wish they would go back to their original designs. I like the up-firing design for surround speakers but not for mains.
Actually, the "upfiring" speakers have a dome above the mid and another above the tweeter that reflect the sound from upward to sideways furnishing a 270 degree uniform side though front to side radiation pattern making them far superior to earlier designs and those of other companies who still mount their midrange and tweeter drivers on the front panel of their enclosures. When Mirage build the Omnisats, they obsoleted most other speakers including their earlier designs.

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Anyone need Mirage Nano-sats or V2's for parts???

I have a bunch of Mirage Nano-Sats and a couple of V2's and original Omnisats with blown mids or blown tweeters that I haven't gotten around to combining to make good ones. Now, after 60+ years in audio including many years as a Mirage dealer, I'm preparing to retire so I'd like to sell some of this stuff to folks who do have the time to turn them into good working speakers. I also have some NOS Mirage speakers including some FRX models and a pair of 895's as well as number of smaller tower demo models. Feel free to contact me to discuss any of these items and/or pick my old brain. My experience goes back to the late 1950's and includes a couple of years as senior tech in R&D at KLH and operation of my own audio/car audio/home theatre business since 1973. Feel free to call during the day to 603-357-5040.

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Anybody have any v2 tweeters or omd tweeters they want to get rid of?
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I ran Mirage OMD-28 towers for a while along with the OMD-C2 center. I experienced the same thing. The calibration software in the Yamaha AVR I was using at the time completely sucked the life out of them. I remember reading something I found online from a Mirage rep who said the calibration software packages tended to not work well with omnipolar speakers. Basically omnipolar speakers like Mirage rely on reflected sound to produce a realistic sound stage, whereas the goal of the AVR calibration software is to minimize the effect of reflected sound. For this same reason, Mirage speakers do not sound well in a sound treated room. They need the hard surfaces to bounce the sound waves off of.
That's really interesting; I have OMD-28s and an OMD-C2 and had that same experience with the calibration software in my Krell system — it completely carved out the entire midrange and was unlistenable. I ran the calibration multiple times and always got the same result, and couldn't figure out what was wrong....

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Hello all, I am seeking some advice on what to run for my left and right rear surround speakers to match as closely I can. Currently, I have M-1si for main left and right, OM-C2 for center, M1090i's for the left and right surrounds, and FRX rear for my rear surround and another set above firing downward for Atmos. The rear FRX's have seen better days. A couple of the side firing tweeters to do not work and the cones are cracked. I would not mind finding another set but I would rather try and get OM-R or OMD-Rs. But both are again hard to come by. I would rather keep in the Mirage line but am open to alternatives. My sub for reference is an Energy ES-XL-12. I had a mirage Substrata 1500 but the uprating voltage Amp took a crap and it's hard to come up with another seeings how the voice coil ohms are so high! Thank for your suggestions on the rears!
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