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Def Tech D9s are pretty strong

Great clarity,detail,soundstage...low end is very good.

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Well I wanted to share with my fellow tower owners here on my previous running of fullrange with speaker wire only to hooking up my LFE with a high pass filter on my crown XLS 1002 amp.I run 9060 towers in a stereo setup with an emotiva PT-100 pre amp.

My sound full range sounded great before this change.Upon further research I wanted to try and hook up LFE to my towers and set a high pass filter(crossover)..on my crown amp of 120 to 125hz.

Well I did this tonight and there is a definite difference.This will be a little difficult to explain but before the sound I was getting was nasily..like a congested sound if that makes sense.When I ran full range the bass seemed to mask some of my sound.

Since I set a high pass on my amp of 125hz and ran dedicated LFE my sound seems less stressed and clear and bass has definitely tighted up.I can now turn my volume up more and enjoy a very clean and clear sound.I am not sure why this might be but consider me a happy camper.

I am not sure if it's separating the lows out of the full range signal that is doing this and giving it a dedicated LFE line but man what a clear difference it has made.If anyone else has a similar setup and are running full range I highly suggest running the LFE to your towers.It has made a wonderful change for the better in my setup.

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@stevethebrain I was on the hunt for a CLR2002 for several months and had trouble finding one in good condition for double the price you're being offered it. Eventually I found a CLR2000 local and pulled the trigger. While it's fantastic, the Mrs is not happy with its size. The bigger is better theory doesn't apply to speakers in the female camp apparently.



So, since I see you're in FL, I might be willing to work out a trade for that 2002 if its in good condition. Feel free to send me a PM if you're interested in trying to work out a deal.
do you know the dimensions of these speakers there's not a huge difference is there?

this 2002 appears nice condition .would this trade offer be even.

what city in swfl?

edit: my C1 has same drivers bet you're wive would prefer it over a 2002 not to criticize w/ it's cheap looking side covers that's really what she doesn't like.the C1 is all wood.

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CLR2000 / CLR2500 / CLR3000
Unless you are going to upgrade to towers in the future, I'd go with the CLR2000.
actually the sm450 sound excellent not wanting jumbo tower floor ornaments.

I probably would happy w/ a 3rd sm450 as CC just want to purchase a pair to get one.


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actually the sm450 sound excellent not wanting jumbo tower floor ornaments.

I probably would happy w/ a 3rd sm450 as CC just want to purchase a pair to get one.


edit:are DTs still made in USA? I am getting anti-chinese garbage.
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Well I wanted to share with my fellow tower owners here on my previous running of fullrange with speaker wire only to hooking up my LFE with a high pass filter on my crown XLS 1002 amp.I run 9060 towers in a stereo setup with an emotiva PT-100 pre amp.

My sound full range sounded great before this change.Upon further research I wanted to try and hook up LFE to my towers and set a high pass filter(crossover)..on my crown amp of 120 to 125hz.

Well I did this tonight and there is a definite difference.This will be a little difficult to explain but before the sound I was getting was nasily..like a congested sound if that makes sense.When I ran full range the bass seemed to mask some of my sound.

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I am not sure if it's separating the lows out of the full range signal that is doing this and giving it a dedicated LFE line but man what a clear difference it has made.If anyone else has a similar setup and are running full range I highly suggest running the LFE to your towers.It has made a wonderful change for the better in my setup.

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I’ve been saying this on here since I did that months ago with my BP8080’s! LFE is the way to go!


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I tried 3 or 4 different “ways” and the sound overall is just better that way and the bass management is better.. in my opinion and in my experience.

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Hey guys. Proud owner here of some Mythos ST speakers. Just wanted to share my exceptional customer service story with Definitive Technology. After ten years of ownership(out of warranty) an amp gave out on one of the Super Towers. I reached out to DT to buy a replacement but instead they are sending me a new amp, no charge. Totally shocked me. Great customer service who stand by their product.

Just wanted to update I received my replacement amp from Def Tech. Replaced the old one and I'm back in business. Awesome service.

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I have an opportunity to buy an 8 year old 3.1 system for $400.
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This is the correct thread for this kind of questions, right?

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Sounds like a good deal as long as everything works. The sub alone cost more than $400.

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Hey Guys,

Was on the hunt to upgrade my monoprice 10565 5.1 set (the fronts and center) and stumbled upon a Craigslist posting for 2 Definitive Tech BP2000 and a CLR3000 for $500, local pickup only. Ended up getting the whole set for $400. I pulled up in my Ford Focus, not realizing the MONSTROSITY these things are. Long story short, had to make two trips. Plugged in the towers last night and I am completely and utterly blown away with the sound quality of these bad boys. I CANNOT WAIT to get the center channel mounted and plugged in today after work. I will post some pictures of the finished setup!!

Anyway, I know these speakers are old (what, like 20+ years or something?). While they are seemingly in great condition, is there any way I can extend the life of these further, IE any kind of treatment I can put on them (it may sound crazy but I don't know what's out there). After hearing these, I want these to last the rest of my life if possible.

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Was on the hunt to upgrade my monoprice 10565 5.1 set (the fronts and center) and stumbled upon a Craigslist posting for 2 Definitive Tech BP2000 and a CLR3000 for $500, local pickup only. Ended up getting the whole set for $400. I pulled up in my Ford Focus, not realizing the MONSTROSITY these things are. Long story short, had to make two trips. Plugged in the towers last night and I am completely and utterly blown away with the sound quality of these bad boys. I CANNOT WAIT to get the center channel mounted and plugged in today after work. I will post some pictures of the finished setup!!



Anyway, I know these speakers are old (what, like 20+ years or something?). While they are seemingly in great condition, is there any way I can extend the life of these further, IE any kind of treatment I can put on them (it may sound crazy but I don't know what's out there). After hearing these, I want these to last the rest of my life if possible.



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Hey Guys,

Was on the hunt to upgrade my monoprice 10565 5.1 set (the fronts and center) and stumbled upon a Craigslist posting for 2 Definitive Tech BP2000 and a CLR3000 for $500, local pickup only. Ended up getting the whole set for $400. I pulled up in my Ford Focus, not realizing the MONSTROSITY these things are. Long story short, had to make two trips. Plugged in the towers last night and I am completely and utterly blown away with the sound quality of these bad boys. I CANNOT WAIT to get the center channel mounted and plugged in today after work. I will post some pictures of the finished setup!!

Anyway, I know these speakers are old (what, like 20+ years or something?). While they are seemingly in great condition, is there any way I can extend the life of these further, IE any kind of treatment I can put on them (it may sound crazy but I don't know what's out there). After hearing these, I want these to last the rest of my life if possible.

Thanks!
First congrats on the find, the 2000's price around $800-1200 right now, and the CLR3000 $400-500, so killer find.

As far as treating them, I wouldn't, esp after all these years of what was most likely, no treatments (honestly it's just not needed) Simply light dusting will suffice.
Just don't store them in a moldy environment and they will probably last you at least another 10 yrs.

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Hey Guys,

Was on the hunt to upgrade my monoprice 10565 5.1 set (the fronts and center) and stumbled upon a Craigslist posting for 2 Definitive Tech BP2000 and a CLR3000 for $500, local pickup only. Ended up getting the whole set for $400. I pulled up in my Ford Focus, not realizing the MONSTROSITY these things are. Long story short, had to make two trips. Plugged in the towers last night and I am completely and utterly blown away with the sound quality of these bad boys. I CANNOT WAIT to get the center channel mounted and plugged in today after work. I will post some pictures of the finished setup!!

Anyway, I know these speakers are old (what, like 20+ years or something?). While they are seemingly in great condition, is there any way I can extend the life of these further, IE any kind of treatment I can put on them (it may sound crazy but I don't know what's out there). After hearing these, I want these to last the rest of my life if possible.

Thanks!
Great find. These speakers are so well built they could last a long time. You could also start to look for a cheap set to use as parts if they ever do have an issue. Hard to beat these speakers unless your willing to spend $$$$.
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Going to AT Screen need advice on Center Channel

Hello,

I am thinking about going to a little large AT screen only so I can move my CC up about a 18" and have sound coming from directly behind the screen the only bad part is going to a large screen I will have to give up my CS8080 and SM65s for either 3 PC2000s or 3 Mythos 10s. The rest of my setup is 4 PM1000s and 4 DI5.5Rs for Atmos. Part of me thinks I wont lose much on the CC because the CS8080 has a sealed chamber for the mid drivers anyhow. I have 2 PSA XS30s up front and 2 SVS SB2000s in back so will I really lose much from my front sound stage at all by downsizing. I have everything crossed over at 100 anyhow?

I will also be upgrading my projector, but I am waiting to see what get announced at Cedia from JVC.

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Glad to hear I got a good deal. Even if someone said I didn't though, I wouldn't listen because these sound amazing. So I've been taking the cloth off of them to inspect the speakers (I also think it looks better and my cats were loving climbing them.. Grrrr!). Upon inspection, one of the center dust caps on a tweeter is dented. Does this affect sound quality at all? Should I try to fix it somehow or just leave it be? Pics of the setup coming this weekend! Thanks again guys.

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Glad to hear I got a good deal. Even if someone said I didn't though, I wouldn't listen because these sound amazing. So I've been taking the cloth off of them to inspect the speakers (I also think it looks better and my cats were loving climbing them.. Grrrr!). Upon inspection, one of the center dust caps on a tweeter is dented. Does this affect sound quality at all? Should I try to fix it somehow or just leave it be? Pics of the setup coming this weekend! Thanks again guys.
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Thanks, I will just leave it be. Mounted a floating shelf today for the Blu ray player as well. I have to take off the other cloth cover and organize my desk, but I'm listening to them tonight and am so happy with the sound. I used the Audessey setup with my receiver and it seems to have done a good job. Here is a picture as promised!
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Thanks, I will just leave it be. Mounted a floating shelf today for the Blu ray player as well. I have to take off the other cloth cover and organize my desk, but I'm listening to them tonight and am so happy with the sound. I used the Audessey setup with my receiver and it seems to have done a good job. Here is a picture as promised!
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So I’ve been searching on and off hoping to find a CLR 3000 and some of the old super towers to replace my bp9020’s and cs9040. Ran into some luck the other day and picked up a CLR 3000. I was really looking to end up with 3000tl/7000sc/7001sc, but I have an opportunity to get some bp30’s for about $200. Should I go ahead and buy the BP30’s because it’s a good deal and keep searching. Or are the BP30’s a big enough upgrade over my BP9020’s that I will be satisfied with them and should give up the search?
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So I’ve been searching on and off hoping to find a CLR 3000 and some of the old super towers to replace my bp9020’s and cs9040. Ran into some luck the other day and picked up a CLR 3000. I was really looking to end up with 3000tl/7000sc/7001sc, but I have an opportunity to get some bp30’s for about $200. Should I go ahead and buy the BP30’s because it’s a good deal and keep searching. Or are the BP30’s a big enough upgrade over my BP9020’s that I will be satisfied with them and should give up the search?
At that price take them. I used two pair for many years until I upgraded to 3000/7000s. Only difference is active woofer. They would make great surrounds or mains if you do find one of the above. No brainer they will crumble your 9020s.
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They sure will, and screw over long time customers that have bought Def Tech speaker and Def Tech speaker. They can take their customer service and shove it.

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At that price take them. I used two pair for many years until I upgraded to 3000/7000s. Only difference is active woofer. They would make great surrounds or mains if you do find one of the above. No brainer they will crumble your 9020s.
Thanks Keeper! I think the bp30’s will sound pretty good in my setup. I have a big sub(HSU VTF-15H MK2) so I think the active woofers aren’t as big of a deal anyway. And I’m sure someday I’ll find a good deal on the bigger ones and move the 30’s to surround duty with my BPX’s. 🙂
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They sure will, and screw over long time customers that have bought Def Tech speaker and Def Tech speaker. They can take their customer service and shove it.

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Can a moderator do something about this guy?

We all know you hate Def Tech because you feel like you've been slighted by them. By the way you follow up every post on their customer service with your drivel, I'm guessing that it's because you were rude to them. Unfollow this thread, join in the discussion on other threads, and enjoy your setup. I know you're just waiting for a speaker to malfunction so you can flood this thread with how much you hate Def Tech, but it's like stepping around cow patties in a field trying to read this thread lately. If you have truly had DT speakers for over 20 years, then you are too old to be such an online crybaby.
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Can a moderator do something about this guy?

We all know you hate Def Tech because you feel like you've been slighted by them. By the way you follow up every post on their customer service with your drivel, I'm guessing that it's because you were rude to them. Unfollow this thread, join in the discussion on other threads, and enjoy your setup. I know you're just waiting for a speaker to malfunction so you can flood this thread with how much you hate Def Tech, but it's like stepping around cow patties in a field trying to read this thread lately. If you have truly had DT speakers for over 20 years, then you are too old to be such an online crybaby.
You are so beyond wrong it's funny. I talked to Chet for years and had a great relationship. I sent him more complimentary emails about Def Def than you can imagine. I have been a Def Tech customer since about 2000 and have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on Def Tech speakers. The one time a crap sub fails on me they want to charge a fee hundred bucks for an amp that costs them 10 cents. How would you feel if you read a post that said wow I bought one speaker from them and it was after warranty that they sent me a fee part. How would you feel?
Don't go crying to the mods because you don't want to hear an unhappy Def Tech customer. Deal with it and try to see it from my side.

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Just as I did with Epson projectors, I would dump the DT gear, sell it, and replace it with something else. Unlike you, I still hang around the specific model thread and add helpful information to the thread. That's what grown-ups do.
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Just as I did with Epson projectors, I would dump the DT gear, sell it, and replace it with something else. Unlike you, I still hang around the specific model thread and add helpful information to the thread. That's what grown-ups do.
I love Def Tech speakers. I'll move on when I'm good and ready. You used to give extremely helpful info in here. Now I just hate the Def Tech company. They did just get some of my money though because I bought a Denon receiver that is incredible but still part of the same company. I won't hold anything against Denon because DT sucks.

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Thanks Keeper! I think the bp30’s will sound pretty good in my setup. I have a big sub(HSU VTF-15H MK2) so I think the active woofers aren’t as big of a deal anyway. And I’m sure someday I’ll find a good deal on the bigger ones and move the 30’s to surround duty with my BPX’s. 🙂
That sounds like a good plan to me.
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Thanks, I will just leave it be. Mounted a floating shelf today for the Blu ray player as well. I have to take off the other cloth cover and organize my desk, but I'm listening to them tonight and am so happy with the sound. I used the Audessey setup with my receiver and it seems to have done a good job. Here is a picture as promised!

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Is there anyway you can pull them out/forward some? Those BP's like to breath and the left one looks pretty cramped up. If you can position them further away from the back wall, and gain some space on the left side, they should doubly impress you over their current positions.
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