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Yes, I run the DI8R in-ceiling as Atmos speakers, and also for music upmixing - and I think they are very good. Overkill, could have gone 6.5" instead of the 8", but price was great and they blend nicely with my other not DefTech speakers.
Thank you all for the responses. I've settled on DT6.5 LCRs for the surrounds. Still waffling between DT 8's or 6.5s for Atmos. Will report back when the project is nearing completion.
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Thank you all for the responses. I've settled on DT6.5 LCRs for the surrounds. Still waffling between DT 8's or 6.5s for Atmos. Will report back when the project is nearing completion.
I use the 6.5 di for atmos. They do fine no complaints.
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Gentlemen so I am going to buy a new pair of towers and matching center. Am I better off with mythos sts or bp9060, I also own 2 sc2000's. It will be used for movies 95% of the time, are the sts worth the difference? Thanks
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Gentlemen so I am going to buy a new pair of towers and matching center. Am I better off with mythos sts or bp9060, I also own 2 sc2000's. It will be used for movies 95% of the time, are the sts worth the difference? Thanks
Personally, I prefer the BP line if you have space for them, IMO they have more depth in they're overall tone.
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Personally, I prefer the BP line if you have space for them, IMO they have more depth in they're overall tone.

I'd have to agree. Granted I've only heard the Mythos line at Best Buy and it was clear they were not set up optimally. None the less my impression was they were designed for WAF rather than sound quality.

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Hello All!

First time poster here.... I'll start by saying "thanks" to all of you who contribute to this site!

I plan to upgrade my 10 year old Home Theatre and go with Atmos. I am looking for your opinions/suggestions please.

* I will watch movies 80% of the time, and play music 20% of the time.
* Room is rectangular: 13' x 23' x 9' high (I cannot do 7.1 effectively, so only seek to do 5.1)
* looking to do 5.1.4 (with 4 in-ceiling speakers)
* The one component I have that I think is worth keeping is a Kliptsch SW-450 (10"/450Watt) subwoofer.

So far I am planning (there is a fantastic sale for the Marantz and for the BP9020's right now)


Fronts: Definitive Tech. BP9020
Center: Definitive Tech. CS9040
Backs: Definitive Tech. SR9040

Kliptsch SW-450 10" 450 watt
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The BP9020's are on such good sale, I really can't afford to jump to the BP9040's (or better) unless also on sale.

* Any thoughts on if I should do 4.5" ceiling, 6.5", or 8" Ceiling speakers?
* Any thoughs on if I should stretch for SR9080's and/or CS9060 ?


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Hello All!

First time poster here.... I'll start by saying "thanks" to all of you who contribute to this site!

I plan to upgrade my 10 year old Home Theatre and go with Atmos. I am looking for your opinions/suggestions please.

* I will watch movies 80% of the time, and play music 20% of the time.
* Room is rectangular: 13' x 23' x 9' high (I cannot do 7.1 effectively, so only seek to do 5.1)
* looking to do 5.1.4 (with 4 in-ceiling speakers)
* The one component I have that I think is worth keeping is a Kliptsch SW-450 (10"/450Watt) subwoofer.

So far I am planning (there is a fantastic sale for the Marantz and for the BP9020's right now)


Fronts: Definitive Tech. BP9020
Center: Definitive Tech. CS9040
Backs: Definitive Tech. SR9040

Kliptsch SW-450 10" 450 watt
Marantz 6012

The BP9020's are on such good sale, I really can't afford to jump to the BP9040's (or better) unless also on sale.

* Any thoughts on if I should do 4.5" ceiling, 6.5", or 8" Ceiling speakers?
* Any thoughs on if I should stretch for SR9080's and/or CS9060 ?


Thanks in advance for any feedback/suggestions!
Sorry that I'll probably bust your budget, but I would do at least 6.5"s in the ceiling and go up in both Center and Surrounds, reason being that those items will last you through further upgrades, esp the in-ceilings.

IMO, I'd rank the importance of the others in this order:
1. The in-ceiling, do them once and be done.
2. The Center, the 9060 will match up well with most L-R upgrade options if you stick with newer models.
3. The Surrounds, these would be easier to upgrade at a later date. Plus if and when you do upgrade your Fronts, they wouldn't be as much of a financial loss to resell and use your 9020's as future surrounds.
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Thanks ALtlOff! Great feedback.

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1. The in-ceiling, do them once and be done.
The in-ceiling speaker size was my biggest 'gap' in research. So 6.5" Speakers sound like the way to go. (I also see that @keeper posted recently and endorsed the 6.5").

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2. The Center, the 9060 will match up well with most L-R upgrade options if you stick with newer models.
3. The Surrounds, these would be easier to upgrade at a later date. Plus if and when you do upgrade your Fronts, they wouldn't be as much of a financial loss to resell and use your 9020's as future surrounds.
Both of these I can do budget-wise, stepping-up on them doesn't cost an awful lot. What I don't get though is how they will help? I see significant differences when I look the speakers up on paper, but I'm not sure what the audio difference would be?


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I've owned my BP2000s since 97 (I think) , they've been on an eighteen year road trip, going from Ohio to Fla., to SC, and recently back to Ohio this last March. On this last trip the socks were damaged from rubbing against something in the truck and I'm curious, if given their age and the fact that they have been out of production forever, can replacement socks be found ? Just unwrapped them ,(had to build a new room) and I hope the socks are my only problem.

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I've owned my BP2000s since 97 (I think) , they've been on an eighteen year road trip, going from Ohio to Fla., to SC, and recently back to Ohio this last March. On this last trip the socks were damaged from rubbing against something in the truck and I'm curious, if given their age and the fact that they have been out of production forever, can replacement socks be found ? Just unwrapped them ,(had to build a new room) and I hope the socks are my only problem.
Call dt and ask. I doubt they still have replacements as I have asked for bp3000s and they were out of them. A seamstress should have no problem making replacements as the material can easily be obtained.
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* The one component I have that I think is worth keeping is a Kliptsch SW-450 (10"/450Watt) subwoofer.

* Any thoughts on if I should do 4.5" ceiling, 6.5", or 8" Ceiling speakers?

Thanks in advance for any feedback/suggestions!
Keep in mind, just my opinion, but I'd probably re-home that 10" sub, and go for something at min. 12", and two of 'em.....

Depending on the characteristics of the in-ceilings, any of those sizes could work, but I'd recommend the 6.5" or the 8", either would be fine, IMO.

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Keep in mind, just my opinion, but I'd probably re-home that 10" sub, and go for something at min. 12", and two of 'em.....
I thought that the BP9020's sub-woofers (hmmm, maybe "powered LFE woofer" is a better description?) plus the 10" sub would be sufficient as its only a 300 Sq. Ft. room.

Are the Definitive Tech. sub-woofers a good option and price, or should I look elsewhere?


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I thought that the BP9020's sub-woofers (hmmm, maybe "powered LFE woofer" is a better description?) plus the 10" sub would be sufficient as its only a 300 Sq. Ft. room.

Are the Definitive Tech. sub-woofers a good option and price, or should I look elsewhere?


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No, much better subs for the money out there. SVS, PSA, HSU are just a few.

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I thought that the BP9020's sub-woofers (hmmm, maybe "powered LFE woofer" is a better description?) plus the 10" sub would be sufficient as its only a 300 Sq. Ft. room.

Are the Definitive Tech. sub-woofers a good option and price, or should I look elsewhere?
No they do not score high on the SQ/Price ratio. Two times the performance can be had for half the price from the ID brands mentioned by HJ. I would also add Rythimik to that list for future research when the time comes.

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Thanks @Hetfieldjames ;and @derekmoore .

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No they do not score high on the SQ/Price ratio. Two times the performance can be had for half the price from the ID brands mentioned by HJ. I would also add Rythimik to that list for future research when the time comes.
I hadn't really budgeted for a new sub-woofer.

I did a quick search and didn't spot any of those mentioned brands in my price range, I did find a SVS PB-2000 for $799. Would this option be a suffice (be a significant update to my Kliptch sw-450) ?

I will likely purchase tonight so I'm trying to narrow down options.

Hmmm, I guess I should also go browse the sub-woofer forums.
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I thought that the BP9020's sub-woofers (hmmm, maybe "powered LFE woofer" is a better description?) plus the 10" sub would be sufficient as its only a 300 Sq. Ft. room.

Are the Definitive Tech. sub-woofers a good option and price, or should I look elsewhere?


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Try it with the Klipsch since you already have it.
Try two different configurations:

1. Towers run with speaker wire only, Sub placed optimally in the space.
2. Towers with LFE, Sub in the rear of the room, close to center as possible.

You say 300 sq/ft, so 2400 qu/ft, which is perfectly fine for a 10" Sub as long as it's powerful enough and goes low enough, and the space is enclosed, not open to other rooms, problem with the Klipsch is that it only plays down to 35-40 hz realistically. Any 10" (or 12") from the above mentioned companies should play down to 20hz or lower, which is what you want.

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Thanks to some of you who last year helped me select my Def tech sound surround system. I have a great system which I enjoy thoroughly !!!

As of now I have BP-9060s L/R front floor towers, BP-9060 Center speakers, A90 Atmos/Height speakers connected to Denon x2400H in a 3.2 set up

I request people here to help me choose a subwoofer to go with this arrangement. As of now my I am deciding in between Super Cube 2000 and Super Cube 4000 since I want it to match rest of my system (Few folks I know in personal life have suggested I can have any sub, mixing subwoofer won't cause any issue). Any inputs on pros and cons ? My living room configuration is 17 ft (W) by 17 ft (L). I sit 10 ft away from my TV and plan to keep Subwoofer just besides the TV table on the right side.

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I thought that the BP9020's sub-woofers (hmmm, maybe "powered LFE woofer" is a better description?) plus the 10" sub would be sufficient as its only a 300 Sq. Ft. room.

Are the Definitive Tech. sub-woofers a good option and price, or should I look elsewhere?
You can absolutely try it and see what you think as ALtlOff has already suggested. I've just not found speakers with built-in subs to be all that. Doesn't mean they don't exist, I just don't think they exist in the DefTech line. Again, remember, this is just my opinion. I think speakers like this are a great option when a space for whatever reason can't accommodate a dedicated sub(s) - be it placement, aesthetics, WAF, what have you. But if none of these apply, you're better off with dedicated units.

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I hadn't really budgeted for a new sub-woofer.
That's O.K., at least we've got you thinking about it now. You can always save money over time and add down the line.

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I did a quick search and didn't spot any of those mentioned brands in my price range, I did find a SVS PB-2000 for $799. Would this option be a suffice (be a significant update to my Kliptch sw-450) ?
Yes, I think so! SVS is a great company, solid customer service, and a generous trial policy. While maybe not the absolute best bang for the buck, you wouldn't be going wrong with SVS.

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I will likely purchase tonight so I'm trying to narrow down options.

Hmmm, I guess I should also go browse the sub-woofer forums.
Also, check out the HSU Research VTF-3 MK5. Great performance for the dollar. Not as generous a policy as SVS, but similarly priced to the SVS PB2000, still have to pay shipping though...
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I request people here to help me choose a subwoofer to go with this arrangement. As of now my I am deciding in between Super Cube 2000 and Super Cube 4000 since I want it to match rest of my system (Few folks I know in personal life have suggested I can have any sub, mixing subwoofer won't cause any issue). Any inputs on pros and cons ? My living room configuration is 17 ft (W) by 17 ft (L). I sit 10 ft away from my TV and plan to keep Subwoofer just besides the TV table on the right side.
Yes, you can mix any subwoofer, you do not need to stick with the same brand as your other speakers. Of course you can, especially if your preference is for brand matching. Just know the limitations, if any, and compare to other offerings. My studies of this forum are pretty heavy in favor of ID brands or DIY over subs made by the big manufacturers. Doesn't mean the name brands don't make good subs, but they tend to offer less bang for the buck. Keep in mind I'm generalizing based on my readings here, this is not necessarily an absolute.

If you have to put the sub where you've said you want, you can certainly do that. It's unlikely to be ideal from an SQ stand point though. You really should experiment with placement unless otherwise constrained.
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Thanks for responding Jonas.

I do sometime get the urge to consider non def tech sub and SVS comes to mind. I am not restrained by space so I can experiment with positioning. Will see what others have to say. Want to pull the trigger by end of September on this one.

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Thanks for responding Jonas.

I do sometime get the urge to consider non def tech sub and SVS comes to mind. I am not restrained by space so I can experiment with positioning. Will see what others have to say. Want to pull the trigger by end of September on this one.
Honestly, the only way to get into bang-4-buck with DefTech Subs, is used, and top of each generation of SuperCubes or the Powerfield 1500, to give you good results.

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I've burried the hatchet with Def Tech. I'm no longer going to be a customer but my beef is over with them. I still love my SM 65 and 55s.
To me I'm not sure how the new Demand series would work in home theater. They seem to be stereo only. The Studio monitor series were beasts.

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Thanks to some of you who last year helped me select my Def tech sound surround system. I have a great system which I enjoy thoroughly !!!

As of now I have BP-9060s L/R front floor towers, BP-9060 Center speakers, A90 Atmos/Height speakers connected to Denon x2400H in a 3.2 set up

I request people here to help me choose a subwoofer to go with this arrangement. As of now my I am deciding in between Super Cube 2000 and Super Cube 4000 since I want it to match rest of my system (Few folks I know in personal life have suggested I can have any sub, mixing subwoofer won't cause any issue). Any inputs on pros and cons ? My living room configuration is 17 ft (W) by 17 ft (L). I sit 10 ft away from my TV and plan to keep Subwoofer just besides the TV table on the right side.

There is definitely no reason to brand match you future sub. I've had the SC4000. It has a smaller driver than your 9060s. So you are not likely to gain any low end extension from adding one. Also, the detail of the SuperCubes is not in the same league as some of the ID direct subwoofer manufacturers.


I would encourage you to take this question to the sub forums and start a new thread. Be sure to include your budget. A short list to start researching include PSA, HSU, Rythmik and SVS.
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Thanks Hetfieldjames and @derekmoore.


I hadn't really budgeted for a new sub-woofer.

I did a quick search and didn't spot any of those mentioned brands in my price range, I did find a SVS PB-2000 for $799. Would this option be a suffice (be a significant update to my Kliptch sw-450) ?

I will likely purchase tonight so I'm trying to narrow down options.

Hmmm, I guess I should also go browse the sub-woofer forums.

Rythmik LVX12 $759 shipped http://www.rythmikaudio.com/LVX12.html
HSU VTF 3 MK5 $895 shipped http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-3mk5HP.html
Or, if you can go up a bit in price, https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/15V


Apparently PSA often has some returns not listed on the website so it is a good idea to call or chat with Tom V the owner. He's well know for providing best in class support in addition to making outstanding subs.


As Altloff stated, you don't have to rush into a new sub. Take your time researching so you get the right one for your room, preferences and usage goals. It's very common for people to blow their money on too small of a sub only to have the upgrade bug very soon thereafter.
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There is definitely no reason to brand match you future sub. I've had the SC4000. It has a smaller driver than your 9060s. So you are not likely to gain any low end extension from adding one. Also, the detail of the SuperCubes is not in the same league as some of the ID direct subwoofer manufacturers.


I would encourage you to take this question to the sub forums and start a new thread. Be sure to include your budget. A short list to start researching include PSA, HSU, Rythmik and SVS.
Thanks Derek I will take it to sub forums.
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Was wondering yesterday after all day demo's of the bp9080's if Sandy had a hand in designing them? Is he still with def tech or solely golden ear now,and if so who designs for def tech now?

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Was wondering yesterday after all day demo's of the bp9080's if Sandy had a hand in designing them? Is he still with def tech or solely golden ear now,and if so who designs for def tech now?
I believe he left after the 7000 series which many consider dt best series.

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Was wondering yesterday after all day demo's of the bp9080's if Sandy had a hand in designing them? Is he still with def tech or solely golden ear now,and if so who designs for def tech now?
Not with Def Tech at all and hasn't been in a very long time. Goldenear is his baby now and I believe quite happy with it.

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I believe he left after the 7000 series.
That's what my online searching kinda pointed to, or the 8000 series.

I demo'd at 3 different HiFi shops,one was magnolia and the def tech room there was treated acoustically with panels,and the room was 20x22x12,they were hooked up full range just speaker wire and signal came via McIntosh and a turntable.

My hope was that they would top the sound of my 8060's so much that it warranted upgrade,didn't happen though at any of the three shops, tried them closer together,farther,LFE,amped,and just reciever. Large room, medium and small.

Same sound,muddy bass,hollow mids and very flat highs, I went home perplexed.

The dealer in the 2nd shop is flabbergasted at my review of the 9080's and offers to bring a pair over and listen to mine then the 9080's while the shop is only a couple miles away, I'm game and we roll to the house and I demo the 8060's for him off the pioneer elite, which is what he had on them at the shop,first words I think out of his mouth were holy **** that sounds great.

We hook the 9080's up and he agrees with my comparison and doesn't get it along with me. There has to be something wrong here after all the stellar reviews I've read,did design change that much after Sandy left?And anyone come to the same conclusions?

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That's what I'm online searching kinda pointed to, or the 8000 series.

I demo'd at 3 different HiFi shops,one was magnolia and the def tech room there was treated acoustically with panels,and the room was 20x22x12,they were hooked up full range just speaker wire and signal came via McIntosh and a turntable.

My hope was that they would top the sound of my 8060's so much that it warranted upgrade,didn't happen though at any of the three shops, tried them closer together,farther,LFE,amped,and just reciever. Large room, medium and small.

Same aound,muddy bass,hollow mids and very flat highs, I went home perplexed.

The dealer in the 2nd shop is flabbergasted at my review of the 9080's and offers to bring a pair over and listen to mine then the 9080's while the shop is only a couple miles away, I'm game and we roll to the house and I demo the 8060's for him off the pioneer elite, which is what he had on them at the shop,first words I think out of his mouth were holy **** that sounds great.

We hook the 9080's up and he agrees with my comparison and doesn't get it along with me. There has to be something wrong here after all the stellar reviews I've read,did design change that much after Sandy left?And anyone come to the same conclusions?
From my observations dt went more for profit by minimizing size and weight. My 3000s and 7000s are absolutely huge and heavy for even two people. They are built to last as many people still have bp2000s in their system. My advice for you is to try and listen to a speaker with the 6.5 driver. 2000’s, 3000, and 7000s. I had some of their speakers with the 5” driver and while they are good the 6.5 is better.
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