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Had a great experience with Chet. He mailed me a new amp for my 7004 and after a quick swap my powered sub is back up and running.

Now I have to order one for the other 7004 because there is clearly a difference.

I guess after 10 years of them being enjoyed I wore out the amps.

For 90 bucks I really cant complain if it gets more years of life out of these wonderful speakers.
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Has anyone done a subwoofer upgrade in a BP2000? The 15s in there really roll off at 30 hz pretty hard. Seems like it would be pretty straight forward to put in something a bit more robust...

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Ive got a CLR 2500 center (5.25 drivers) and BP2000 Towers (6.5 drivers). I don't have any problems with the sound. It all blends well. That being said... one day I do plan to find a CLR 3000 center!

I have had a 2500 that has been paired with my BP7001s for many years. I decided to upgrade to the CLR 3000 once I located a 3000 in good condition (I also learned there are two versions of the CLR 3000 and landed a good condition of the 3000 that I was looking for). Before I decided to sell my 2500, just for kicks I decided to run the 3000 and 2500 in parallel with the center channel signal being split but the speakers amplified separately so as to not mess with the impedance. So I have an old receiver amplifying my CLR 2500 and atmos speakers and my main AVR amplifying my BP7001s and CLR 3000. I enjoyed the side by side center channel arrangement so much I just decided to keep it permanent.

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here are pics of the two versions of the CLR 3000 in case anyone needs some evidence.






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The clr2500's make excellent Atmos speakers...there's lots of low end frequencies in the Atmos channels. They do an amazing job pulling those frequencies out. I used to use 4 of them in my theater..
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here are pics of the two versions of the CLR 3000 in case anyone needs some evidence.





The bottom is the newer CLR with upgraded drivers that match the BP7000/01s. The previous model matches the BP3000s.
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Has anyone done a subwoofer upgrade in a BP2000? The 15s in there really roll off at 30 hz pretty hard. Seems like it would be pretty straight forward to put in something a bit more robust...
Probably not a good idea.
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Has anyone done a subwoofer upgrade in a BP2000? The 15s in there really roll off at 30 hz pretty hard. Seems like it would be pretty straight forward to put in something a bit more robust...
I have a pair of the 9080 towers and I would recommend using that money and buy a separate subwoofer. I ran the 9080 full range and they are NOT a true subwoofer. I use 2 JL Audio F113 subs and there is no comparison. End of story! If you want true LOW end use as good subwoofer as you can afford. That way you can place it in your room where it can be used to your advantage.
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Probably not a good idea.
What matters most here is making sure whatever driver you use is compatible with the on board amp. I'm sure a call to Def Tech support would provide the answer you need.


My guess is, it will be not easy to find a compatible driver that will be much of an upgrade. Unless the Dayton UL15 would work with that amp. But that I do not know. I'd call Chet.

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Had a great experience with Chet. He mailed me a new amp for my 7004 and after a quick swap my powered sub is back up and running.

Now I have to order one for the other 7004 because there is clearly a difference.

I guess after 10 years of them being enjoyed I wore out the amps.

For 90 bucks I really cant complain if it gets more years of life out of these wonderful speakers.





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Anyone know what the internal crossover is between the Tweeter and Mid on the 9060 towers?

I'm experimenting with the MRC on/off that Audyssey recommends.

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Anyone know what the internal crossover is between the Tweeter and Mid on the 9060 towers?

I'm experimenting with the MRC on/off that Audyssey recommends.

No sorry. This sounds like a question for Chet. Please post the answer you get.

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Hello,

I just got my CLR 3000 Center channel. Thank you to WOKNROX for a great deal on an impeccably kept piece of equipment. It is a beautiful monster! It is replacing my Mythos 9 and wow what a difference. The sound is deeper, fuller, with more depth and dialogue is crisp and clear at all volumes.

I am still playing around with the sub woofer settings (I am not using the LFE) so if anyone has any suggestions on the best way to balance it with my HSU 15" sub and the rest of my system I would appreciate some input.

Also what is the deal with bi-wiring? If I run two wires from the AVR to the center channel and remove one of the jumpers and replace it with wires how does that change the sound?

Thanks
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I just got my CLR 3000 Center channel. Thank you to WOKNROX for a great deal on an impeccably kept piece of equipment. It is a beautiful monster! It is replacing my Mythos 9 and wow what a difference. The sound is deeper, fuller, with more depth and dialogue is crisp and clear at all volumes.



I am still playing around with the sub woofer settings (I am not using the LFE) so if anyone has any suggestions on the best way to balance it with my HSU 15" sub and the rest of my system I would appreciate some input.



Also what is the deal with bi-wiring? If I run two wires from the AVR to the center channel and remove one of the jumpers and replace it with wires how does that change the sound?



Thanks

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I also have the HSU vtf15, and I run my towers as small with 80hz crossover. I prefer the bass management that way for a variety of reasons. Large is also good to try out (I do that for music) and send only LFE to subwoofer (not to towers).
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Hello,

I just got my CLR 3000 Center channel. Thank you to WOKNROX for a great deal on an impeccably kept piece of equipment. It is a beautiful monster! It is replacing my Mythos 9 and wow what a difference. The sound is deeper, fuller, with more depth and dialogue is crisp and clear at all volumes.

I am still playing around with the sub woofer settings (I am not using the LFE) so if anyone has any suggestions on the best way to balance it with my HSU 15" sub and the rest of my system I would appreciate some input.

Also what is the deal with bi-wiring? If I run two wires from the AVR to the center channel and remove one of the jumpers and replace it with wires how does that change the sound?

Thanks
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In my experience with my 3000, as the crossover isn't a 'brick wall' for the bass frequencies but rather the start of the rolloff I crossed it at 60 or so and played with the sub amp gain on the back to tune to taste. Crossing it over also ensures that you're sending proper information to your overall sub and that whatever you want out of your center is for 'extra' oomph.

I personally wouldn't bother with bi-wiring. I'd be surprised if you heard an audible difference.
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^^^^^^

Ditto with Bi wiring. I went thru that phase with my two channel system when I had Martin logan electrostatic speakers. Center channels ARE NOT designed to replicate low end. Concentrate on clear dialogue and "natural sounding" voices. The subwoofer is specifically designed to reproduce low end! I also used a 60HZ crossover on my center.
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Hello,

I just got my CLR 3000 Center channel. Thank you to WOKNROX for a great deal on an impeccably kept piece of equipment. It is a beautiful monster! It is replacing my Mythos 9 and wow what a difference. The sound is deeper, fuller, with more depth and dialogue is crisp and clear at all volumes.

I am still playing around with the sub woofer settings (I am not using the LFE) so if anyone has any suggestions on the best way to balance it with my HSU 15" sub and the rest of my system I would appreciate some input.

Also what is the deal with bi-wiring? If I run two wires from the AVR to the center channel and remove one of the jumpers and replace it with wires how does that change the sound?

Thanks
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I'm glad to hear the it arrived safe and sound and that you are happy with it. That truly is a beautiful speaker both sounding and condition.
As for set up I'd cross it over at 60hz and set the knob for the woofer at 10:30-11ish like you have it.
From there you'll just need to play around with it to fine tune to your liking.

It was a pleasure dealing with you you have my # so please let me know if you have any questions or need anything else in the future.

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Hey Def Tech Owners!

Just wanted to stop by and give a piece of advice to any of you who own the BP towers. In my case, the BP2000TLs.

I previously had them with the built-in subwoofers facing inward. I swapped the left and right speakers so now the two subwoofers are facing outward.

BUT the biggest difference I made, as was suggested by RayGuy on these forums, is I moved them inward, to the left and right of the TV at a 0 degree angle, versus cramped up in the two corners at a 45 degree angle. Holy smokes batman- when people say these need to breathe, I will never question that ever again. I had no idea how true of a statement that was. They sound night and day better than before. For reference, here is what my room looks like and their new positions to the left and right of the TV:



So when people say these towers need to BREATHE, believe it.

Oh I also installed a pair of DI 5.5BPS in the left and right walls for surrounds. Monumental improvement over the previous Kef T100s I had on the wall. These in-wall def techs mach perfect with the rest of the system. Take care guys!

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Have a question for fellow Definitive owners.

I have had a combo of Mythos STS towers, Ten center, Gem XL surrounds and a Rythmik sub in a 5.1 setup for quite a while.

About to do a full 4k tv/receiver upgrade, and was thinking about upgrading to Atmos at the same time. I can't install ceiling mounted speakers so I was wondering if anyone has up-firing speakers paired with their STS setup that they like. I thought about a set of basic Gems but they aren't shaped to be laid down facing upward.
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