Originally Posted by EMTAdam
Hey guys. I have lurked for a long time, and now have some questions...... First let me run down the equipment that I am using, and room info. First, my room. I am using our main living area as our theater. The room is odd shaped, as it has a corner fireplace in the front left corer, roughly 3 ft to the left of the edge of my screen. The room is open in the rear and the kitchen/nook is there. The shared space as a whole, is 38ft long, 16ft wide, the ceiling is 8ft on the left, and 8ft in the front "screen wall" with each rising in a trapazoid/kite shape up to 12ft in the rear kitchen area. My main viewing area is 10ft from the screen, with a 2nd row of seats on a 12 inch riser.
Denon AVR X4100W
Def Tech 9060 center
Def Tech 9080 Fronts
Def Tech 8040 Rears -- were my orig fronts when I upgraded
Def Tech 8020 Side's -- were my orig rears when I upgraded
Epson 4010 projector
135" fixed frame screen.
I HAD a niles audio Soundstage 15" sub that rocked the house, but sadly roasted its amp. Thats what led me to the 9080's with their built in subs.
My issue is now that I feel like I am lacking bass. "arent we all?"
So here is my question. I have gone way over my $$$$ plan on this setup and wife is threatening my other toys to replenish funds. lol... I am thinking I want to add a pair of subs, but unsure of what direction to go in. I have to keep it within reason with price, and also, dont want to add anything that the 9080's are just going to play over anyways...
SO....... My allowance is roughly $600.
Do I do nothing and enjoy what I have.
Do I add a pair of budget 12's such as the bic pl200-ll's
Do I go with 1 better 12/15 over the bics?
Do I go with a different set of 12's then the bics?
The 9080s sound great and hit pretty hard. Whats lacking is that deep, under 30hz rumble.
Any suggestions are welcome.
As mentioned above, make sure your connection path is allowing the 9080's to receive the LFE signal and since you do not currently have a stand alone sub, set them to large.
Assuming the connections are all good, then you could be experiencing a lack of bass due to placement/room mode issues. Do you have the ability to measure your FR?
The other issue is the 9080 woofers roll off around 28htz or so IIRC. Measuring would allow you to determine if it truly is the lowest octave you are chasing, or if there are some other nulls you need to address.
A separate sub is always best because of the ability to place one where it sounds best in the room, which is usually not where the main speakers sound best for imaging and sound stage.
So, yes, a separate sub would help with both issues, but verifying which for sure issue will guide you to the right sub and realistic budget.
If it truly is just the under 28htz stuff you a looking to beef up, $600 might not be enough of a budget.
In that range, I would be looking at 15" port models minimum for your room and stated goal. One now, and one later when the WAF is more favorable. HSU & Monoprice are two with options around $800 that I would be strongly evaluating for your situation with that budget. You'd be looking at the 12" from Monoprice at that price range but the are reportedly very impressive and can be found on sale fairly regularly.