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As much as I love DT and have had them for 20 plus years, next time I remake my HT I'll be moving on from DT. Time to move on and get a different brand, different sound. Most likely Ascend Acoustics for me.
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I'm still happy with my speakers

However after transporting them over 1200 miles to another state they all came through without any major issues with the exception of my front left BP9080X losing a power module and now plays without any powered low end from it. I did hear a popping sound when I first connected it. It came back on for about two minutes and finally died. I've emailed Definitive Tech and they asked for the usual information which I have sent. Has anyone else had one of these to go out? I'm tempted to remove it anyway to see if there is a serviceable fuse to replace since I will have to in order to replace the module.
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However after transporting them over 1200 miles to another state they all came through without any major issues with the exception of my front left BP9080X losing a power module and now plays without any powered low end from it. I did hear a popping sound when I first connected it. It came back on for about two minutes and finally died. I've emailed Definitive Tech and they asked for the usual information which I have sent. Has anyone else had one of these to go out? I'm tempted to remove it anyway to see if there is a serviceable fuse to replace since I will have to in order to replace the module.
Call them and wait on hold for a live person. Chet and/or other will take care of you instantly. Customer service is one of Def Tech's biggest advantages.

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As much as I love DT and have had them for 20 plus years, next time I remake my HT I'll be moving on from DT. Time to move on and get a different brand, different sound. Most likely Ascend Acoustics for me.
I really love the giant sound stage of the Def Tech BP line. My open space and listening habits really benefit from it and I'm not sure what kind of speaker design could improve upon that aspect of their performance.

I do have a pair of Dynaudio speakers in another room and those tweeters are amazing! the detail I hear there causes me to rush back to my main room and listen for the same detail in the DT's. Sadly, they are not there.

That said, I really, really would love to hear a ribbon tweeter in my space like the RAAL in the Ascend and/or Philharmonic lines amongst others. The thing that holds me back is that reviews seem to support the opinion that they are best on axis and loose their luster (my impression of reviews) off axis. I listen a lot off axis and the BP design of the DT towers works well for me. YMMV.
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I really love the giant sound stage of the Def Tech BP line. My open space and listening habits really benefit from it and I'm not sure what kind of speaker design could improve upon that aspect of their performance.

I do have a pair of Dynaudio speakers in another room and those tweeters are amazing! the detail I hear there causes me to rush back to my main room and listen for the same detail in the DT's. Sadly, they are not there.

That said, I really, really would love to hear a ribbon tweeter in my space like the RAAL in the Ascend and/or Philharmonic lines amongst others. The thing that holds me back is that reviews seem to support the opinion that they are best on axis and loose their luster (my impression of reviews) off axis. I listen a lot off axis and the BP design of the DT towers works well for me. YMMV.
Well...maybe some GoldenEarings are in your future...
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It's nice to see Sandy and Chet after all these years ate still applying the same basic principles they learned from the time they spent with Mathew Polk.... back in the early days of Polk Audio.
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Has anyone had a bad experience with there customer service/servicing your speakers?

I like there speakers but there customer service is horrible. Not sure what registration means to them when I tried to get help on a old SC amp gave them all my info and still had no data of my product I registered, I emailed them 2 years ago to asked what my warranty was for my speakers and they gave me all my warranty information which now means nothing I guess.

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Has anyone had a bad experience with there customer service/servicing your speakers?

I like there speakers but there customer service is horrible. Not sure what registration means to them when I tried to get help on a old SC amp gave them all my info and still had no data of my product I registered, I emailed them 2 years ago to asked what my warranty was for my speakers and they gave me all my warranty information which now means nothing I guess.

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I've never had a bad experience with their CSR. But then again I've never owned any of their stuff that gave me problems that would be covered under warranty...lol
I've purchased parts from them without any problems what's so ever.
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Well...maybe some GoldenEarings are in your future...
Yea, those are on the Want to Listen To list for sure. A little pricey for my taste though.

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Has anyone had a bad experience with there customer service/servicing your speakers?

I like there speakers but there customer service is horrible. Not sure what registration means to them when I tried to get help on a old SC amp gave them all my info and still had no data of my product I registered, I emailed them 2 years ago to asked what my warranty was for my speakers and they gave me all my warranty information which now means nothing I guess.

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I've always had a great experience with DT by calling them.
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I've never had a bad experience with their CSR. But then again I've never owned any of their stuff that gave me problems that would be covered under warranty...lol
I've purchased parts from them without any problems what's so ever.
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I've always had a great experience with DT by calling them.
Maybe I just got a bad apple, but thank you guys for you information. Still, the fact that registration has 0 benefit also pushed me away. I guess it shows how we all have different experiences with manufacturer.

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Call them and wait on hold for a live person. Chet and/or other will take care of you instantly. Customer service is one of Def Tech's biggest advantages.
I've been communicating thru email with Kristina A. They requested my serial number , purchase date, and address. I'll try calling them again as their hours were limited when I called two days ago.
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Maybe I just got a bad apple, but thank you guys for you information. Still, the fact that registration has 0 benefit also pushed me away. I guess it shows how we all have different experiences with manufacturer.

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Hey bud... did you ever get in touch with the Ryan brothers over at Ryan Acoustics for a listening session?
Maybe even a walk through their facility...

We can move this to your other thread if you want...
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Hey bud... did you ever get in touch with the Ryan brothers over at Ryan Acoustics for a listening session?

Maybe even a walk through their facility...



We can move this to your other thread if you want...
No I been swamped with work but I am but I am going to call next week and hopefully get the tour and hear there speakers

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Hi there, I’m looking for that big DT sound in a fairly open space, 9’ ceilings and an L shaped basement. The right main speaker will not be beside a wall, rather it will side another open space in my basement. The left main will be beside a wall. Is this a scenario that can work for the DT 9080x bipolar design? If it’s a hard no, makes the decision easier. I won’t even get into my rear placement...it’s a travesty.

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I have a Marantz 7014 coming and a Monolith 7 channel will power all main speakers. The Marantz will power the ceiling channels. Presumably this is something it will allow.

I have 4 in ceiling atmos speakers (monitor audio) placed according to Dolby recommendations. Wish I could do side surrounds, but that’s not even a possibility.

Addition subs? At least one, I’m hoping with built in subs in the DT speakers I won’t need more than one, since I am spending on the speaker setup up front. True story I own a Funk Audio 21.0 - it’s a lot of sub.

Other than this, I must say that it will take me 10 years to read this thread through. Lots of good info.

Thanks in advance for the help. I have one other question, but I’ll worry about that one after.

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Additional question, I just want to confirm that the DSP handles the subs roll off and prevents bottoming out in a graceful manner? I assume so since they seem to play loud with plenty of bass authority, I had some Mordaunt short speakers from 14 years ago that had powered subs (10”) and they constantly flapped, fluttered and disappointed. I couldn’t handle a repeat of this. Just want a system I can turn up and enjoy and not worry about managing the speakers limitations in bass extension.

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Just joined the DT club
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Denon AVR-S940H 7.2

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I must say I have been impressed for far with this set up

What sub(s) do you guys use? Did you stick with DT? Also anyone have wireless surrounds and if show how well does it work?
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Just joined the DT club

3.0.2 system. (3.2.2 if you count the subs in the speakers)



Denon AVR-S940H 7.2



Definitive PB9060ST x2 towers



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Definitive CS 940-HD center speaker



I must say I have been impressed for far with this set up



What sub(s) do you guys use? Did you stick with DT? Also anyone have wireless surrounds and if show how well does it work?
I'm also running a 3.2 but went a little over kill with sub .4 lol running dual rythmik fv25hp

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I'm also running a 3.2 but went a little over kill with sub .4 lol running dual rythmik fv25hp

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No such thing as subwoofer overkill! hehe

You can always turn them down if it's too much, can't turn them up if too little.

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No such thing as subwoofer overkill! hehe



You can always turn them down if it's too much, can't turn them up if too little.
Yes I fully 100% agree 4 15" subwoofer always are a focal point in the living room

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I did things a bit different...
1 Rythmik FV25HP up front and center
2 HSU VTF3-mk5hp's in the back spreading apart but not corner loaded and the theater is on a double suspended floor...
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You can have 1,000 subs but it's still considered .1 there's one LFE channel.

But yes, always better to have more sub!!
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I did things a bit different...

1 Rythmik FV25HP up front and center

2 HSU VTF3-mk5hp's in the back spreading apart but not corner loaded and the theater is on a double suspended floor...
Very nice! I would love to have been able to put 1 front and 1 back but cannot lol

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Just bumping my post. Just curious if def techs are ok in a scenario where the left front speaker has corner to play into and the right front speaker has only a back wall and no sidewall to play into. Anyone with experience who can comment would be appreciated.

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Just bumping my post. Just curious if def techs are ok in a scenario where the left front speaker has corner to play into and the right front speaker has only a back wall and no sidewall to play into. Anyone with experience who can comment would be appreciated.
I'm sure that they are better then most because you can accommodate (add some bass) for the open area on the one side. Then you can accommodate (remove some bass) on the corner loaded side because of the powered subs in the speakers. You can accommodate some of this with room correction but that can only do so much. With regular speakers you won't have that kind of adjustability.

So yes I feel DT's will work for you and give you that BIG open sound that you are looking for.
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Have you checked out Shazam yet?

I watched this one last night and man... the bass was so spot on, it hit with such impact and pressure that it felt like my theater was completely separate from the house. It shook and contorted with complete authority.

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Have you checked out Shazam yet?



I watched this one last night and man... the bass was so spot on, it hit with such impact and pressure that it felt like my theater was completely separate from the house. It shook and contorted with complete authority.
Oh really? Looks like I'm going to have to go rent a movie tonight, Thankfully redbox now rents out 4k movies thanks definitely always looking to test out movies

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The standard Blu-ray carries the Atmos track also.

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The standard Blu-ray carries the Atmos track also.
Looks like blu-ray will have to do lol they dont have 4k I guess in this location.

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I'm sure that they are better then most because you can accommodate (add some bass) for the open area on the one side. Then you can accommodate (remove some bass) on the corner loaded side because of the powered subs in the speakers. You can accommodate some of this with room correction but that can only do so much. With regular speakers you won't have that kind of adjustability.

So yes I feel DT's will work for you and give you that BIG open sound that you are looking for.
Thank you for the feedback. Much appreciated. I was thinking that having adjustable subs would be helpful in this regard.

My only other question regarding this would be wether or not the bipolar nature of the speaker will be effected by the the lack of a sidewall on one side. I know the spacious imaging is due to backfiring speakers. Without some of that sidewall reinforcement I’m hoping I’m not loosing that ‘into space’ so to speak.

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Just joined the DT club

What sub(s) do you guys use? Did you stick with DT? Also anyone have wireless surrounds and if show how well does it work?

Don't need to stick with DefTec for subs. Of course you can, but you get better performance for the dollar from one of the ID brands like HSU, SVS, Rythmik...
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