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khellandros66 01-03-2006 05:15 PM

Definitive Owners Thread,

I am curious to see more Definitive systems around here. So lets posts pics, which speakers as well as associated equipment.


~Bob

ball3r 01-03-2006 06:53 PM

Where is a good place to host the pictures so they show up?

J.H. 01-03-2006 06:55 PM

I don't have pics but my system is 7002's for mains which just replaced 2004's. I have BPVX's for surrounds,CLR2500 for center,BPX's for surrpund back channels and a SupercubeII. Its all powered by Parasound amps and controlled by a Parasound processor. Overall a pretty good system from just building myself with no help. I likes what i hear and bought all the equipment in my system. I hope more people respond I know lots more have DTs around here. J.H.

BiggenF15 01-03-2006 07:16 PM

I don't have pics either, but I have BP2006TLs with a CLR 2300 center. I have BPX surrounds and an M&K MX-125 subwoofer. I actually don't use the sub anymore - not because it's not a good speaker, I just don't need it with the 2006s!

petemc1 01-05-2006 03:31 PM

I got the 7004's,CLR 2300 and the BP2X's.Love 'em.

J.H. 01-05-2006 07:15 PM

Hey Definitive guys I got a question for ya. As my post said I have 7002's for mains that recently replaced 2004's. I have BPVX's for surrounds. Do you think it would be an improvment to just put my old 2004's in the surround position? What do you think or are the BPVX's just a better speaker than the 7004's? Just in sound quality. Thanks guys J.H.

khellandros66 01-05-2006 09:22 PM

I would say go for it, Powered Towers as rears were used for some old review (can't remember which mag). IIRC it was a BP3000, BP2006, CLR3000 review.

~Bob

lulimet 01-05-2006 09:25 PM

here i have pictures of my old room. Since then i have added a pair of BP30s and a pair of BP20s http://community.webshots.com/user/lulimet

mike-g-h 01-06-2006 07:55 AM

BP-6 mains
clr2002 center
bp1.2x surrounds
Sub is an svs pb-10

I had bought a pair of studiomonitor 350's to use as mains but I returned them. I did a head to head comparison with my bp-6's and although the 6's weren't quite as clear I preferred their sound, filled the room better. I've got a bead on a used pair of bp-8's and if I get them I will use the bp-6's as side surrounds and probably one bp1.2x as a rear.

lexa695 01-06-2006 08:27 AM

Just upgraded and I am loving the ProCinema speakers.

L/R 100's
C Pro C2
Side 80's
Rear Old JBL surrounds to be upgraded to at least another set of 80's when I can sneak them past the wife
Sub Supercube II



Picture

Scott Tucker 01-06-2006 10:17 AM

BP7000sc mains
CLR3000 center
4 BPVX surrounds

Love the set up for movies and concert DVD's.

Scott

PULLIAMM 01-06-2006 12:23 PM

BP8 mains
Mythos 7 center
BP10 surrounds
Athena AS-P4000 sub
Yamaha electronics

Yeah, I know, the bigger speakers are in back. This is because the BP8's are crossed over at 80hz to blend better with the center, and the BP10's provide surround-channel bass. Awesome for movies and no slouch for music (though I mostly listen to music on my Athena F1's in another room.)

SPCOOLIN 01-06-2006 02:14 PM

BP30 Mains
CLR3000 Center
BPVX/P Surrounds
CLR2000 Surround Rear
SVS 20-39 PCI

Great for movies, and music

whoaru99 01-06-2006 03:41 PM


g_bartman 01-06-2006 04:20 PM

Deftech and proud of it
LL

flint350 01-06-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by J.H. View Post

I don't have pics but my system is 7002's for mains which just replaced 2004's. I have BPVX's for surrounds,CLR2500 for center,BPX's for surrpund back channels and a SupercubeII. Its all powered by Parasound amps and controlled by a Parasound processor. Overall a pretty good system from just building myself with no help. I likes what i hear and bought all the equipment in my system. I hope more people respond I know lots more have DTs around here. J.H.


I just bought the same system for my new HT, except the sub. Just wondering, did you not find the subs in 7002's and 2500 enough? Does the addition of the CubeII really help that much? My room will be large (20w X 32l), but the HT is the front half and I am adding 2 BPX's at the far back wall simply for 7.1 use later. Thanks.

jdcrox 01-06-2006 06:26 PM

I used to have BP20's, CLR, and BP1's for surrounds. They made a great surround sound setup. Awesome soundfield.
I was less impressed for music-only listening, which is why I eventually sold them.

khellandros66 01-07-2006 09:40 PM

BUMP

Keep it coming folks...

~Bob

wisardd 01-08-2006 10:48 AM

BP 2000's L/R Mains
C/L/R 2000 Center
BPVX (4) L/R Surrounds and L/R surround backs.
All bought on Ebay at ridiculously reduced prices from MSRP
Super Cube I, being replaced by SVS PB12/ultra.

J.H. 01-08-2006 12:11 PM

Flint350 I bought the supercube because I was using protower400 for mains for a while and that was not enough low end for sure. I really,really love the SCII though so no regrets. I think the blending of bass of the 7002's and SCII makes for a very big wall of low end bass. I like the combination.J.H.

khellandros66 01-08-2006 12:20 PM

J.H.

Did you try the BP2004's as rears yet, if so what do you think??

~Bob

J.H. 01-08-2006 12:29 PM

Ya know i havent dragged them out of the basement yet but I really want to at some point. I think it will be a winning combo because powered speakers all the way around can't be a bad thing. Although the BPVX's are sweet speakers. Now it makes me kick myself for not spending the extra cash on the BPVX/P's which is the powered version of my speakers. What a dummy I am. J.H.

mike-g-h 01-13-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:


BP-6 mains
clr2002 center
bp1.2x surrounds
Sub is an svs pb-10

I had bought a pair of studiomonitor 350's to use as mains but I returned them. I did a head to head comparison with my bp-6's and although the 6's weren't quite as clear I preferred their sound, filled the room better. I've got a bead on a used pair of bp-8's and if I get them I will use the bp-6's as side surrounds and probably one bp1.2x as a rear.


It's all changed now Came across a good deal on a pair of BP-10's and a CLR2000 for half of retail so I couldn't resist. Now I 'll be moving the BP-6's to side surround and one BP1.2X as rear surround, don't have the room on the rear wall for both of them. Now that I think about it, I shoulda kept my old center channel speaker and used it as a rear surround, but it's already sold.

garretwp 01-14-2006 07:15 AM

I own a pair of Definitive SM450's and a CLR 2002. I love the setup and got a great deal on them! I bought them used from a fellow member on this forum.



Garrett

Adz523 01-14-2006 08:06 AM

Hi Guys,

Faithful Owner and Dealer/Installer for Definitive Technology in the NY Metro area. I have in my showroom:
BP7000SCs
CLR3000
BPVX/P - Side Surrounds
BPVX - Rear Surrounds

Simply amazing is all I can say especially the 4 BPVXs for the surrounds -- that's 16 6.5 inch drivers for full surround sound immerision!! Stop by for a demo if you are ever in the area!

wisardd 01-14-2006 03:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adz523 View Post

Hi Guys,

Faithful Owner and Dealer/Installer for Definitive Technology in the NY Metro area. I have in my showroom:
BP7000SCs
CLR3000
BPVX/P - Side Surrounds
BPVX - Rear Surrounds

Simply amazing is all I can say especially the 4 BPVXs for the surrounds -- that's 16 6.5 inch drivers for full surround sound immerision!! Stop by for a demo if you are ever in the area!


Personally, I am thinking of selling my definitive set up and switching over to triads. Still in the thought process though. The def set up I have is very cool, but the triads keep piquing my interest.

cmeinck 01-14-2006 03:34 PM

Quote:


Simply amazing is all I can say especially the 4 BPVXs for the surrounds -- that's 16 6.5 inch drivers for full surround sound immerision!! Stop by for a demo if you are ever in the area!

I'm considering DefTech Mythos. Where in NY are you located?

ToneDefJeff 01-14-2006 03:37 PM

Current configuration is under final construction. I haven't had a chance to hear them in the room yet. Working on a IB sub setup before I test things out. The room is my greatroom as well as my HT area so stealth was the name of the game.

UIW-75's for L/C/R
UIW BPZ/A for side Surrounds
UIW BP/A for rear Surrounds

Jeff

RMLewis 01-14-2006 05:39 PM

I've got BP-10 mains, CLR1000 Center, BP-8 surrounds and BP-1's as back surrounds. Picked them all up on Ebay and Audiogon for a total of about $750 including shipping. Couldn't be happier!

Adz523 01-14-2006 06:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmeinck View Post

I'm considering DefTech Mythos. Where in NY are you located?

Hi cmeinck:
I sent you an email.

BiggenF15 01-15-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ToneDefJeff View Post

Current configuration is under final construction. I haven't had a chance to hear them in the room yet. Working on a IB sub setup before I test things out. The room is my greatroom as well as my HT area so stealth was the name of the game.

UIW-75's for L/C/R
UIW BPZ/A for side Surrounds
UIW BP/A for rear Surrounds

Jeff

Awesome! Please let us know how this sounds. In-walls take a terrible beating, primarily from people who've never heard them...

Tkbalt 01-15-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by flint350 View Post

I just bought the same system for my new HT, except the sub. Just wondering, did you not find the subs in 7002's and 2500 enough? Does the addition of the CubeII really help that much? My room will be large (20w X 32l), but the HT is the front half and I am adding 2 BPX's at the far back wall simply for 7.1 use later. Thanks.

I have the same question. I have 2002's, 2002 center, BP2x surrounds.

Why the sub? Do you run the sub and the sub's in the towers? The subs in the 2002's will run me (actually my wife) out of the room at any significant volume.

http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphot...r/7487477/sl/t

khellandros66 02-03-2006 09:02 PM

Just upgraded my system to a pair of BP7006tl's


BTW The Mythos line is gorgeous and now offered in black finish which IMHO is way better then the silver.

Ideal Mythos would be:

Mythos Four's
Mythos Three (Center)
Mythos Two's (Side and Surround Back)
SuperCube III or (SuperCube II if budget allows)


~Bob

cmeinck 02-03-2006 10:15 PM

I'm receiving the rest of my Mythos system tomorrow. It will consist of:
(2) Mythos One's - Front
(1) Mythos Three - Center
(2) Mythos Eight - Surrounds
Super Cube I

I've got a new Pio 74TXvi powering them. Looking forward to The Transporter 2 tomorrow. I'm sure the Black looks nice, but the aluminum is quite nice. It looks similar to my Apple G5 tower - and that's quite a compliment.

I'll report back, but I suspect this system will rock.

ball3r 02-04-2006 10:44 AM

I absolutely love my Mythos setup.

Mythos Fours - Front
Mythos Three - Center
4 BP inwall surrounds
Black Velodyne SPL 12II sub

Let me see if I can do this picture thing:






khellandros66 02-04-2006 10:17 PM

Ball3r. Nice setup man very clean....

It seems my findings are similar to others about the Mythos line and how to get most for your money.

~Bob

khellandros66 02-06-2006 06:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tkbalt View Post

I have the same question. I have 2002's, 2002 center, BP2x surrounds.

Why the sub? Do you run the sub and the sub's in the towers? The subs in the 2002's will run me (actually my wife) out of the room at any significant volume.

http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphot...r/7487477/sl/t


Alot of times having a sub in the rear of the room greatly enhances the effect, I noticed a huge difference in my Dad's theater when he added a Velodyne CHT12 in the back of the room. He already has/had

43in Hitachi 16:9 HD RPTV (CRT)
Sony STR-DA1ES
Denon 2910b
Polk CS245i
Polk RT1000i (80w RMS 6.5in Sub built into the towers)
Radioshack Linaeum (Inwalls With Ribbon Tweeter)
Yamaha YST-SW305 (200w RMS Dual 8in)


I havea feeling I will upgrade to inwall Bipolar rears as soon as I move out. But will aslo consider adding a SC II or perhaps SC I.

~Bob

ball3r 02-06-2006 08:31 PM

I picked the 3 trying to match driver sizes. I believe at the time DT has some misinformation on the size of the drivers on their website. I took the tape measure to them. It looks like the Eight has the same size drivers as the Mythos One? I REALLY, REALLY wanted the One. My wife just wasn't going for it. The Fours are great though.

Hey. Where'd that post go, lorelevitt? I know I'm not crazy. I've got the email.

rmlowz 02-07-2006 08:27 AM

Hello,

I am curious for you BP VX/P owners, what volume level do you have them set at?
I have all four of them set at the 12:00 level. I was wondering if it would hurt to set them higher??

rmlowz

keeper 02-07-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by J.H. View Post

Ya know i havent dragged them out of the basement yet but I really want to at some point. I think it will be a winning combo because powered speakers all the way around can't be a bad thing. Although the BPVX's are sweet speakers. Now it makes me kick myself for not spending the extra cash on the BPVX/P's which is the powered version of my speakers. What a dummy I am. J.H.

If you ever want to sell those BPVX's let me know.

I have the
CLR 2000
Bp 30's
CLR 2002 for back
SVS powered sub

J.H. 02-07-2006 03:20 PM

Ok will do but right now I don't think so. J.H.

Adz523 02-07-2006 06:40 PM

Thinking of hosting a NY Definitive Rave at my showroom for those in the NY metro area in the coming month. Its a 21.5" by 17.5" room w/room treatments:

Set-up is

BP7000SC L&R,
BP7001SC - center channel,
2 BPVX/P as side surrounds
2 BPVXs as my back surrounds.

Components are:

Bryston SP2 Pre/Pro,
Bryston 6BSST powering the fronts (300w x 3),
CineNova Earthquake powering the rears (which may be replaced by NuForce Ref 9s by then)
Denon 5900 (modded)
Sim 300E-Link DLP projector (DC3)
114" Firehawk Screen

Email or IM me with any interest. I'll also post a separate thread on this shortly once date and time firms up.

Gators2001 02-07-2006 09:03 PM

I just Bought:

Mythos Ones : Front
Mythos 3 & 8 : Center will choose one
Mythos Gems : for surround
Pioneer Elite 74
SVS 12 Sub


Any input on these centers will be appreciated.

Will there be a notice-able difference w/ going to a Mytho TWO or so for surrounds??? (MOVIES Being my main application)

J.H. 02-08-2006 06:53 AM

Hows the Mythos system sound? When I heard them a few months ago they blew me away. J.H.

ball3r 02-08-2006 07:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gators2001 View Post

I just Bought:

Mythos Ones : Front
Mythos 3 & 8 : Center will choose one
Mythos Gems : for surround
Pioneer Elite 74
SVS 12 Sub


Any input on these centers will be appreciated.

Will there be a notice-able difference w/ going to a Mytho TWO or so for surrounds??? (MOVIES Being my main application)

Wow. I think this will make a SICK setup! I would think you should go with the Eight center, I believe the drivers match the Mythos One's.

J.H. - I think the Mythos are awesome! I auditioned a number of the wall mount/flat panel type speakers and these blew everything else away. I also auditioned a couple of the non flat Paradigms, and these were right there with them. Couple the sound with the style and they were too good to pass up for me AND my WIFE.

J.H. 02-08-2006 07:29 AM

yeah I heard them a few months ago when I went to get my 7002's and they sounded great. That being said the 7002's holy cow they kick some butt. Love Def Techs. J.H.

ball3r 02-08-2006 08:13 AM

I did not even listen to the 7002's. I had heard such good things about them, and I knew I could not get them. I was trying to 'down size' the speakers in my room. I bet they sound awesome though.

J.H. 02-08-2006 08:32 AM

Whats you setup? Mine is 7002's mains,CLR2002 center,BPVX for surrounds and BPX's surround back channels. What a system I must say not braging but man the speakers sound incredible. Also the DTs are being driven by a Parasound amp and the Parasound 7100 controller. J.H.

[email protected] 02-08-2006 03:25 PM

I'm currently running:

7004 fronts
2500 center
BP1.2x surrounds (largest that will fit in the space)
Sunfire True Sub Mk II
Velodyne SMS-1
Sunfire Ultimate Receiver

For the most part I like the Def Techs for movies but not really for music. Will probably switch to a PMC or Totem system later on this year.

khellandros66 02-08-2006 08:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gators2001 View Post

I just Bought:

Mythos Ones : Front
Mythos 3 & 8 : Center will choose one
Mythos Gems : for surround
Pioneer Elite 74
SVS 12 Sub


Any input on these centers will be appreciated.

Will there be a notice-able difference w/ going to a Mytho TWO or so for surrounds??? (MOVIES Being my main application)

If I were you, I would consider a pair of SuperCube II's quite possibley the best impact I have heard yet.

That being combines with the Above system would be greater then the 7002's, CLR3000, and BPX's unless of course that rig had a SCII or larger.

~Bob

[LMS]007 02-08-2006 09:24 PM

I guess just joined the Definitive club. I needed a center channel for my PC system and I had a gift card for magnolia so I checked out what they had and wound up with a CLR 2002. I was impressed with the capabilities of this speaker in the store. I wanted an aluminm tweeter to match the energy's. It seems to be an alright match, but it's not the same as my Energy C-3's. The 2002 is a very forward and almost harsh speaker. I thought my energies were bright, but the 2002 is even more so. It's great for movies and that's the only situation I need to use it in, but it also lacks bass response next to my C-3's. Does anyone know the official -3dB point of the 2002? I'm not concerned about it too much, but my crossover is at 60 and I hope that's high enough for the 2002. I don't want to raise that up. Other than that, its a beautiful speaker, large and loud. Its highly efficient too which I was surprised by. I built a huge shelf above my monitor and mounted it up there.

PULLIAMM 02-09-2006 08:17 AM

Def Tech claims that the 2002 goes to 30 hz. Their "official" frequency response claims tend to be a bit optimistic, though.

satchm0h 02-09-2006 10:59 AM

Mains BP7002
Center CLR2000
Surrounds 2 x BPX

I've just recent traded up from the 7004 to the 7002. I was able to A/B them in the showroom and was just astonished at the difference. I was expecting a relatively subtle difference, but I found it to be very significant. The sound field blended better, the midrange was far more complete, and the move up from the 10" to the 12" subs provided a substantial....."smoothing"...of the bass.

I've been listening to music on my friend's B&Ws and was considering the switch for my mains. But after comparing the B&W 703 to the DefTech 7004 for PCM I found the B&W edge to be so slight that it was not worth losing the Bipolar soundfield which simply can not be beat for HT. Not to mention the additional cost of investing in subwoofers to replace the 7004 integrade subs.

Still lovin' my Definitives!

~ted

I Superman I 02-09-2006 06:00 PM

I plan on picking up a Definitve system with a yamaha 5990 on Monday, yet my room is only 12X11, and really would concist of nothing but the setup, 51inch Toshiba RPTV, the couch(bed) and the screen. There is probally only about 7 feet max away from the screen, does anyone have an opinion on how these speakers will work in my room?

I plan on...
BP7006 for Fronts
SuperCube III for sub
C/L/R 2002 for center
BP2X surrounds
yamaha 5990 reciever

If anyone has delt with these speakers in close quarters, i'd love some feedback before the monday purchase.

J.H. 02-09-2006 06:26 PM

I have an opinion GREAT! Your gonna love em in a room just for movie viewing. J.H.

satchm0h 02-09-2006 09:01 PM

I agree with J.H.

In tighter quarters the 7006s will work very well. Throw in the SCIII and I expect you'll have a great HT experience. I've listened closely to the 7006 7004 and 7002. Since I knew I would not be adding an additional sub, the 7006s were not an option for me given my space, but I gave them a good listen just the same. The entire SuperTower line are solid performers.

scofow 02-09-2006 09:27 PM

What is the best processor setup for the BP7002 with a sub?

Speakers set to small or large?
What do you guys set the processor crossover around?
Is it best to use the LFE connection for the BP7002?

Thanks for you time!

I Superman I 02-09-2006 09:37 PM

Actually i was concidering just now on getting the 04 or 02's and not get the subwoofer to have more room, but i'm slightly confused due to them having equal wattage on thier website, is the price increase soley due to the sub size or are the woofers larger yet have no wattage increase? I guess i'm also wondering Is the sub on either of these efficient enough to replace a full on subwoofer or should I just go with the 06's and get the SuperCube III?

I'm guess what i'm really wondering is, should i get the 02's and no Supercube III, or get the 06's with the Supercube III. Opinions would be greatly apreciated.

Reminder, 12X11 room with the TV against the 12foot wall, paired with a yamaha 5990 and the DefTech Surrounds and Center.

also just thinking here. What difference does the 8inch sub make in the center speaker comparing the CLR2300 and the CLR2002? My center speaker will actually be sitting ontop of my Toshiba RP TV, and i'm not sure if the vibration could be a bad thing for it, or what actual effect that sub has on a center speaker, any suggestions on that aswell?

khellandros66 02-09-2006 09:52 PM

After watchin The Fast and Furious today on my system (room is 16x13x8) I would opt to say that I would add the CLR2300 anyday (that i can afford one), I would do that before I bought a CLR2002 and SCIII. However I would eventually consider adding the SCII :-D

EDIT- Ment the SCII

~Bob

J.H. 02-09-2006 10:54 PM

IsupermanI I would say always go with a dedicated sub along with subs in your speakers. I love the way the room is surrounded by low end bass. My 7002's put out incredible low end and my SCII blends oh so well with them. Its a seemless wall of low end bass. I honestly can't imagine having speakers without a powered sub in the speaker itself. I just like the way it all works together and I guess thats why I love DTs so much. J.H.

I Superman I 02-10-2006 02:02 AM

I'm actually thinking that the 7002's are pretty drastically better then the 7006's, i'm going to do more listening sessions, but if they really do just keep me there then i'll just wait on the sub, i really don't think i'll have the money, but hey, i'm doing this through a Best Buy credit card with monthly payments, so I guess it's just how much it will add to that bill. Or I'll just get the sub and be spioled and owe them a rediculous amount of money

Adz523 02-10-2006 03:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by scofow View Post

What is the best processor setup for the BP7002 with a sub?

Speakers set to small or large?
What do you guys set the processor crossover around?
Is it best to use the LFE connection for the BP7002?

Thanks for you time!


Speakers definitely set to Large or you are losing the benefits of the Supercube being in there. Once set to Large, that overrides your processor's crossover (for any speakers set to Large). As to LFE, its trial and error. I prefer the overall sound not running the LFE to my 7000s but just to my dedicated sub. But others will run to all three or four (2 in the towers and 1 or 2 dedicated subs) with awesome results. It also depends on your processor's # of sub outputs and how many Y-connectors you want to run to split the signal.

J.H. 02-10-2006 04:11 AM

Superman thats what I have for mains 7002's and they are considerably better than the 7006's. They flat out rock believe me! J.H.

jocnat 02-10-2006 07:02 AM

Hi All,
Just ordered deftech system and was stopping in to say hi. ordered pair 7004s, 2500 center, and bpvx/p.

I guess I'm second guessing myself, After alot of reading I am thinking of the 7002 fronts over the 7004's. The 7002's larger and more midranges better match for the rears. Or the 7004's better match for the room size ( 16 X 16). the speakers should be here in a week. I would really like to here some opinions. Decisions! Isn"t this a great hobby.

J.H. 02-10-2006 11:03 AM

Congrats you'll love the system. J.H.

Half Fast 02-10-2006 12:02 PM

I would like to hear opinions from you guys with experience with the BPXV/P's for surrounds. I am currently running the following Def Tech 5.1 configuration; BP2000TL front, CLR 3000 center, BPVX side surrounds. Temporarily the system is powered by a Pioneer 1014 that will be upgraded to (?) within the next few months. I have had these speakers for a few years and really like the DT's for both movies and music. My room is very large volume wise and these speakers do a great job of filling it up with sound. The Pio 1014 is a nice unit but I bought it just as an interim step. I will upgrade the DVD player next month and then I will start looking seriously for a receiver upgrade.

I am currently in the process of installing permanent wiring for the system and placement of the side surrounds. I am going to include wiring for the 7.1 surround rears although I don't have any speakers at this time. My question is whether the BPVX/P is enough of an upgrade over the BPXV that I should consider them for my next purchase. If I go that route I will put the /P's on the sides and use the BPXV's for rears.

Unfortunately the rears will have to be mounted quite high, about 5 feet above the seated listening position and only about 3 feet behind. The rears can either be hung flat against the wall or angled downward with a bracket. There is no power outlets available where the rears will hang so for sure they will be the BPXV's when the 7.1 layout is completed. Would you recommend /P's for the sides or just stick with the standard version and get another set for the rears?

J.H. 02-10-2006 12:25 PM

I don't know how much of an upgrade it would be because I am using BPVX's for surround speakers but I suspect its a really nice upgrade. I sure wish I would have went for BPVX/P's now. With that being said you would place the BPVX/P's in the surround position and the BPVX in the back surround or Dolby EX/DTS-ES position. That would sound absolutely incredible. Also when you go to upgrade the receiver I would go with separates if you have the money. I have Parasound separates and will never look back. Its the best way to get the most of your speakers. J.H.

khellandros66 02-10-2006 01:18 PM

New pics of the 7006's in place.

~Bob
LL
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Gators2001 02-11-2006 08:10 AM

Can I get some feedback from ppl w/ Mythos ONEs. Do you have them set to LARGE or SMALL???

I have the ELITE 74 so I am able to PUSH the sub even if they are set to large.

Kaptain Karl 02-11-2006 11:37 AM

I'm going to chime in about the Def techs. I recently made a change from all KEF
speakers to deftechs. I got a killer deal from my brother in-law that just got remarried and moved into a small house. He had to unload most of them but kept
his bp3000 towers. Here what I bought. 3- CLR2000, 2- BPVX, 2-BP-2006TL all for a grand! While I loved my KEFs they just dont have the dynamics for movie soundtracks. And whats nice is I can run all 3 CLR2000's for movies and then switch out the 2 left and right for the 2006's for music and multichannel music. I find that I much prefer the 2006's for music.

Ive been enjoying the new setup so much that I felt compelled to comment here.
P.S. - Gotta give a nod to my wife for putting up with 2 sets of left and right speakers at the front of the family room.

khellandros66 02-12-2006 06:40 PM

Gators2001,

I would set the Mythos ones to small, then listen to a 20Hz to 200Hz sweep, and if you are set to small and cut em off at 60Hz and hear a dip in the voume try setting them to 80Hz.

20Hz to 200Hz sweep can be found on the THX Optomizer discs (Star Wars I, II, III, or T2 Dual Disc Set)

~Bob

I Superman I 02-13-2006 02:15 AM

What i was wondering is how the subwoofers in the 7002's work alongside the standalone sub. I'm gonna be using the subwoofers in the Front and Center speakers along with the SuperCube II, so how does all that sub stuff get dispersed? I mean there is obviously the channel off for the sub, but how do you wire or set the 02's to get that sub channel as well? lol i'm pretty clueless on this. I'll be pairing it with a Yamaha 5990, and have no idea about these settings or issuses, any info could help

J.H. 02-13-2006 06:00 AM

Thats the setup I have 7002's mains and SCII and it sounds great. The low end bass fills the entire room. It covers the entire room with low end. I like having the room filled with bass. J.H.

SJac 02-13-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Tucker View Post

BP7000sc mains
CLR3000 center
4 BPVX surrounds

Love the set up for movies and concert DVD's.

Scott

Scott,

What kind of Reciever you use with this? HOw long have you been using this? I was considering the same combinaton with Yamaha RXV 2600. Thansk in advance.

g_bartman 02-13-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by I Superman I View Post

What i was wondering is how the subwoofers in the 7002's work alongside the standalone sub. I'm gonna be using the subwoofers in the Front and Center speakers along with the SuperCube II, so how does all that sub stuff get dispersed? I mean there is obviously the channel off for the sub, but how do you wire or set the 02's to get that sub channel as well? lol i'm pretty clueless on this. I'll be pairing it with a Yamaha 5990, and have no idea about these settings or issuses, any info could help

I have 2002tl's which is an older version of the 7002. I have a c/l/r 2300 and an svs 25-31 pci sub. I have z series monster wire to the mains, no lfe. I have my yamaha receiver set to large for the mains, volume for the built in subs at 12 o'clock. I have the clr 2300 set up the same. lfe is going to the svs, xover @ 60hz. That is the best set up that I found......

I Superman I 02-14-2006 03:38 AM

I'll have to try that when i get my setup, but what i'm wondering is how to get those LFE's over to those Front and Center Speakers to use their subwoofer, that is what i'm clueless on, also this "Large" setting, what would this be?

horrorfan2112 02-14-2006 07:59 AM

I have a def tech system, I have bp10b in the front a clr2500 , and bp2x in the back . I am running 300 watts into the center 250 each into the fronts both carver amps . and I am using my yamaha receiver to power the rears. I also am using a SVS pb12+/2 . I love that bipolar sound I have been a fan since the very early 90s when I bought def techs first speaker the bp10 .
LL

Sorny 02-14-2006 12:16 PM

No current pics, but my setup is as follows:

3x CLR2002 (FL, C, FR)
2x BP2x (SL & SR)
2x BP1.2x (SBL & SBR)
2x HSU TN1220HO subs
Powered by a Sunfire Cinema Grand (front 3 and both HSU TN1220HO subs), Pioneer Elite VSX-45tx for the surrounds. I also use a Pioneer Elite DV-45A to feed it DVD-A and SACD...

I've got a pair of SM350's in the shop getting new crossovers. Apparently the SM350's don't like playing NIN at reference level when fed with my Sunfire amp... I like using 3 CLR2002's instead of the SM350's and a single CLR2002 as far as sound goes. The CLR2002 is not nearly appreciated as much as it should be, IMHO.

Sorny

BashOgreBash 02-15-2006 09:12 AM

i would like to visit your showroom... where in NY are you located?

Adz523 02-15-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BashOgreBash View Post

i would like to visit your showroom... where in NY are you located?


Sure, I sent you a PM (private message). I am on the Mahwah border in NY.

PULLIAMM 02-16-2006 06:14 AM

I have been using my BP10's as surround speakers, which is kind of like shooting a butterfly with an elephant gun. Meanwhile, I have been using my Athena F1's in my stereo system (separate room.) I have decided to switch them. Hopefully, the F1's will be sufficient for surround while the BP10's should sound awesome for music.

I Superman I 02-16-2006 02:24 PM

I'm pretty possotive that I have decided on get a pair of 7002's, a C/L/R 2300, and BPX surrounds, paired with a Yamaha 5990 reciever, however i do know it is overkill for my room, but i am wondering how the sound acustics or sound in general will sound in my room. My room is only 12X11 so i know there is alot more sound then is needed, but basically all that is in my room is my bed and my 51inch Toshiba, and my computer, but there is definatly direct places for them,but will it actually sound worse due to the size of the room or should I be fine with that setup. After hearing the 7002's in comparison to the others, it would suck to have to go down to the 06's due to room size

any opinions would be apreciated.

I Superman I 02-16-2006 03:40 PM

also would a Supercube II be a good decision on a sub, especially if i'm pressed for space?

khellandros66 02-16-2006 10:59 PM

ISupermanI for the size room I think that 7002s + 2300 would be more than ample, if HAD to go 7006s Supercube II is suggested to add more power to the sub 30Hz. But with 7002s ina 12x12 room thats more then enough and maybe add a Buttkicker.

~Bob

CraigW 02-16-2006 11:09 PM

My setup consists of the following:

BP10B - mains
CLR2000 - center
BP-2X - surrounds
PM100 - rear surrounds (just added to complete the 7.1 setup)

Only my sub is not a DT which is an OK 10-in Velodyne CT100.

PULLIAMM 02-17-2006 06:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PULLIAMM View Post

I have been using my BP10's as surround speakers, which is kind of like shooting a butterfly with an elephant gun. Meanwhile, I have been using my Athena F1's in my stereo system (separate room.) I have decided to switch them. Hopefully, the F1's will be sufficient for surround while the BP10's should sound awesome for music.

It turns out that the BP8's sound better in my room (18' x 20'). There is such a thing as too much bass, after all.

kaosv1 02-20-2006 03:39 PM

BP3000 mains- BPVX rears, BP2x rear center, CLR2000 front center, 15tl sub. Powered by a Sony 3A-es ......ordered the new Denon AVR2807. Room demensions 15x24

Bought my first set in 1990 the same year they opened their doors. I gave my son a set of 100 pro monitors, BP8's and a older model center channel. Still playing solid and clean.....and my old Sony 808ES .....

Next upgrade will be a Trinity Sub and the Butt kicker setup......

evanhunter 02-23-2006 11:59 AM

I am trying to find the right steup for a room which has vaulted ceiling and is attached to a large dining room.

I am considering this setup below

Definitive Technology Mythos Five FloorStanding Tower Speakers (can't afford the Fours)

Definitive Technology Mythos Three Center Speaker

Definitive Technology Mythos Gem


The system will be run on a Denon 3805 receiver. the listening area is about 15 feet. the listening area is about 10 feet from the tv and mains

J.H. 02-23-2006 12:07 PM

I think that setup would sound great but you need a sub as the mythos line does not have built in subs. You need low end bass from a dedicated sub. If you can't get a definitive sub I would look at SVS subs HSU subs. Cheap and good bang for the buck. Hope that helps. J.H.

I Superman I 02-23-2006 08:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by khellandros66 View Post

ISupermanI for the size room I think that 7002s + 2300 would be more than ample, if HAD to go 7006s Supercube II is suggested to add more power to the sub 30Hz. But with 7002s ina 12x12 room thats more then enough and maybe add a Buttkicker.

~Bob

so i saw it mentioned again up there, but what is/ment by Buttkicker?

khellandros66 02-23-2006 11:20 PM

I Superman I

HERE is the website for the Buttkickers. They are advances basshakers ( hard for me to simplisticly describe) butt essentially they go down to 5Hz which is awesome.

~Bob

Dave928 02-24-2006 02:00 AM



BP2000's
CLR2002
4 BPX's

powered by 7 Marantz MA-700 monoblocks...

evanhunter 02-24-2006 07:39 AM

So i did it, ordered yesterday

Definitive Technology Mythos Five FloorStanding Tower Speakers
Definitive Technology Mythos Three Center Speaker
Definitive Technology Mythos Gem

The system will be run on a Denon 3805 receiver

I now just need to find a sub for around 800, i am considering the axiom 350 or the svs pb12

J.H. 02-24-2006 07:48 AM

Cool you will enjoy these speakers a lot. Definitive makes great speakers. Let us know when you get it all up and running and impressions. My vote would be for the SVS. J.H.

jimkell 02-24-2006 12:06 PM

I've pretty much decided on a Mythos system (pair fours, three center, supercube II or III plus either UIW BP/A or UIW BP/A surrounds). The room is approx. 17' by 20' with a vaulted ceiling. I was going to mount the in-walls in the angled panel of the ceiling facing the rear of the listening position. Anyone ever hear a similar setup ?. Is this enough speaker for the room size ? I'll be driving it with a 100 watt Denon receiver.

Also, without naming sources or actual prices, what discount, if any can I typically expect ?

thehun 02-24-2006 11:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdcrox View Post

I used to have BP20's, CLR, and BP1's for surrounds. They made a great surround sound setup. Awesome soundfield.
I was less impressed for music-only listening, which is why I eventually sold them.

I had BP10s and BP-2s, with CLR1000, I agree with you completelly.

Scott Tucker 02-25-2006 06:22 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SJac View Post

Scott,

What kind of Reciever you use with this? HOw long have you been using this? I was considering the same combinaton with Yamaha RXV 2600. Thansk in advance.

I use the Denon AVR 3805 receiver. I have been using the set up for about 2 years now. Love both the receiver and speakers.

Scott

Scott Tucker 02-25-2006 06:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Superman I View Post

I'll have to try that when i get my setup, but what i'm wondering is how to get those LFE's over to those Front and Center Speakers to use their subwoofer, that is what i'm clueless on, also this "Large" setting, what would this be?

If you set you receiver's processor to large for all front speakers, set to sub NO, and connect speaker wire to them, LFE will automatically be routed to the subs.

I tried it that way for about a year, but found that it sounds much better in the highs and mids especially. if I set all speakers to small, sub YES and run a LFE cable to each front speaker.

Try it both ways and see what sounds best for you.

Scott

Scott Tucker 02-25-2006 06:40 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimkell View Post

I've pretty much decided on a Mythos system (pair fours, three center, supercube II or III plus either UIW BP/A or UIW BP/A surrounds). The room is approx. 17' by 20' with a vaulted ceiling. I was going to mount the in-walls in the angled panel of the ceiling facing the rear of the listening position. Anyone ever hear a similar setup ?. Is this enough speaker for the room size ? I'll be driving it with a 100 watt Denon receiver.

Also, without naming sources or actual prices, what discount, if any can I typically expect ?

Hard for me to picture which way the vault runs in the room, so it's hard to say if the location is good. However, I have used those speakers in many installs for sorrounds and they work very well. I use them in my Bedroom for front L and R speakers on either side of a plasma, and the dialog always seems to be coming form dead center even withiout a center speaker.

Scott

Adz523 02-25-2006 08:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimkell View Post

I've pretty much decided on a Mythos system (pair fours, three center, supercube II or III plus either UIW BP/A or UIW BP/A surrounds). The room is approx. 17' by 20' with a vaulted ceiling. I was going to mount the in-walls in the angled panel of the ceiling facing the rear of the listening position. Anyone ever hear a similar setup ?. Is this enough speaker for the room size ? I'll be driving it with a 100 watt Denon receiver.

Also, without naming sources or actual prices, what discount, if any can I typically expect ?

I sent you a PM. I am a Def Tech rep in your area and can help out.
Thanks,
Adam


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