Originally Posted by Comp1demon
I have CF-70's already.. Everyone I talked to in some other parts of these forums said the RC-70s are not that much of an upgrade from the CF-70's and that I am better off going Klipsch or If I can find the the Veritas Speakers sound night and day better than rc70's. I was so ready to jump in the car and drive to Cincinnati and buy that setup. I honestly am not sure what I want anymore. I feel like I upgraded so much going from 1080p to 4k and from Onkyo 809 to a A3060. LIke I said I have had the CF-70s and LCR for a few years now and I like them, but I was ready to start upgrading the surrounds from POLK (Which were a bit small) to matching Energy RC-R and RC-10 and then doing ATMOS in the ceiling. But Now that I got the OPPO 205 I really want a nice set of Towers that I can crank some tunes and sound fantastic. Back in 1986 I bought a Hitachi rack system that had 2 huge tower speakers with dual 12 inch speakers mid range and tweeter - not sure what they were, got rid of them back in mid 90's. But they were so loud that my neighbor called the cops multiple times on me (I was a teen back then). From the 90's to 2007 or so, I lived in apartments and never had anything as awesome as my rack system from the 80's then 5.1 and 7.1 came out and I bought my first house in 2007 and started with SOny and Cambridge surround (smaller speakers) Bought my new house in 2014 and got a huge living room to play with. AS part of moving in I bought the CF-70's the matching center channel, which I later upgraded to RC-LCR from a great Vans audio BLOWOUT special ALso got two ESW'10's. I was very happy with that setup as I only had the 1080p Mitsubishi and Onkyo AVR, now I feel like I went up a few notches with sony high end 4K, Yamaha AVR and OPPO 205. Rounding out the Energy setup was supposed to be the plan, now after your post and some research and (as i said too much time on my hands) I am thinking about selling everything and going all out. Veritas seemed like the right move at that price, too bad they are gone, those SUBS alone would have been a Huge Upgrade. Now I am thinking of doing my research some more and seeing where to go. I was going to look into perhaps just keeping my set up and adding the RC-R and RC-10s to complete the 7.2.4 setup and perhaps just buying a nice pair of towers and a XLR enabled amplifier to power them and just put them next to the CF-70's so when I want to do music I can do that. But it defeats the purpose of playing back 5.1 SACDs as if I want to do surround Audio I am back to my CF-70 and their companions. Like I said you have me re-thinking everything.
Take my opinion for what it's worth because it's just that, my opinion. I have owned Energy speakers since the early 90's. I have owned the original Connoisseur Series (C8's) to the Audissey Series (full 7.1 system with APS5+2 front, AC300 center, A3+2 rear, and RVSS side surround) to the RC Series (RC70 front, RC-LCR center, RC-R rear). I have also spent a significant amount of time with the Veritas Series. To me, the upgrade from the current CF-70 to the RC-70 is heads and shoulders above the upgrade from the RC series to the Veritas. The RC has kevlar drivers for better rigidity and less distortion as well as much different cross overs and better cabinets with real wood veneer. The RC-70 (and the whole RC series) is much more accurate to my ears and not so forward and in your face as the C series. The Veritas line and the RC line sound similar but the Veritas is even more detailed and smooth. If you have the RC-LCR for a center, the logical upgrade would be to a pair of RC-70's and that is an absolutely killer system. Throw the RC-R's in there that you just bought and you have a system that will shine with both music and home theater. You can usually find a set of excellent condition RC-70's used for the $500-$600 per pair range if you're patient.
Now, I have never been a fan of speakers, like Klipsch, with horns for music...even though I listen to a lot of rock and heavy metal. To me they are way too bright and in your face. They are, however, great for home theater because they are efficient and horns tend to have a pretty wide dispersion pattern so they image well. If you want loud, Klipsch knows how to do that. You should probably go listen to some Klipsch towers that are in the same ballpark as your CF-70's to see if they suit you. If they do, then you have a decision to make.
Bottom line is this, to my ears, the RC-70's are a big upgrade over the CF-70's but the RC's are a pretty neutral or, some would say, laid back speaker. I actually like that and they have a lot of mid bass and detail that the CF-70's don't have. They get even better when you put an actual amplifier on them that will do a true 100-200 watts per channel.