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RC64ii would be great but a 3rd rf7ii would be better in every way. If there is any way to fit it that is the best option, 2nd best is an rc64ii if you can find one. If you absolutely had to get an rp450c it would work but is a lower grade of speaker and would not be as close a match soundwise.
Thanks Robbiey!
I first will try the best option as you gentlemen advised, now I spend more time just sitting in front of TV and trying to figure out how to place the RF-7 II there.
Once I finally know there is no best option, I then will do the second best, and I will forget about RP-450C.
The RF-7 II is quite big a size on paper as I haven't seen one in person, but it's not bigger then my Martin Logan, so there must be a way...
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Hi Jim1290, yes they are but it change all the time just keep eye on it. Many of us would like to get 3rd towers used as center but it is just not possible to do it a specially with regular livingroom set up it is why many of us got RC-64II. No worries there it is amazing center just 3rd RF-7II will be the best. Sellers in Czech still have in stock RC-64II so I'm sure you will find easilly one in Belgium, NL or Germany. Question is shipping cost. I send already to friend of mine RC-64II from US to Czech and shipping was cheaper then what he got quote in Europe.
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I will keep an eye on the link you provide, while I am busy trying for the best option as you gentlemen advised, and I will also keep looking around nearby countries to see if I can find one in case there is no way for best option.
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Congrats on the ATI amps! Those are a couple of beautys and would like one someday for my setup Wait those msrp for 13 grand? I might have to change my mind about that lol.
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black or cherry (or walnut)

about to finally purchase my RF-7/64. I cannot seem to make a decision on the color. Can you tell me which color you prefer, and why?

For us the Cherry looks to light in the pictures, cant find these things in any stores to actually look. The walnut looks a bit off, but nicer than the light cherry, the black seems like it may end up looking cheap.

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about to finally purchase my RF-7/64. I cannot seem to make a decision on the color. Can you tell me which color you prefer, and why?

For us the Cherry looks to light in the pictures, cant find these things in any stores to actually look. The walnut looks a bit off, but nicer than the light cherry, the black seems like it may end up looking cheap.

We cant decide and would appreciate help.
Well I end up with black becouse of great deal I got and you really can't go wrong with black. I also love contrast black and copper woofers. If all 3 finishes will be available for same price I will go with walnut I guess. Cherry looks lighter on pictures then in real it is what many people said after they open them
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So I had some time to try a proper set up tonight and level match - didn't even power up the system all weekend.

One of my RP-160Ms seems to have a bad tweeter. I ran the test tones to get things balanced with the center and rears, and the right side seemed awfully dark, even for my somewhat uneven room. So I swapped them, and the darkness followed. (Name for a band, I think...).

I put my ear up to the tweeter of each, and with the working one I can't get too close, where as on the other I can put my ear right up to the tweeter and all I hear is a faint hiss. Woofers/mids (whatever you want to call it) sound fine on both.

If the problem follows after swapping the item, the item is bad. Doublechecked my connections and the built-in jumpers just in case. They are fine.

Bugger.

Left a message with Sound Distributors, hopefully I can get the set swapped out pronto.

Might explain why I was "not overwhelmed" at first listen.
Sound Distributors are cross-shipping a replacement set of the RP-160Ms to me - UPS picked up the "bad pair" yesterday, and I got a shipping notice for the replacements about the same time. Should be here Friday (tomorrow), so Saturday afternoon might be when I give them a test run, if I don't get a chance tomorrow night.

Eric from Sound Distributors was very responsive, and I can't blame them for a bad tweeter from a random sampling of warehouse stock (can't possibly expect hem to unbox and test everything before it ships!). Hopefully this is a rarity, and the next round of Klipsch speakers I get to replace the remainder of my set-up will be glitch-free.
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Sound Distributors are cross-shipping a replacement set of the RP-160Ms to me - UPS picked up the "bad pair" yesterday, and I got a shipping notice for the replacements about the same time. Should be here Friday (tomorrow), so Saturday afternoon might be when I give them a test run, if I don't get a chance tomorrow night.

Eric from Sound Distributors was very responsive, and I can't blame them for a bad tweeter from a random sampling of warehouse stock (can't possibly expect hem to unbox and test everything before it ships!). Hopefully this is a rarity, and the next round of Klipsch speakers I get to replace the remainder of my set-up will be glitch-free.
Great to hear they took care of you and you will be enjoying your new speakers this weekend!! Eric has been great he was the one I bought my RP-280Fs from.

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Did I just miss out on the klipsch sale? I could have sworn the rp-160M bookshelfs were on sale last week. I was just about to buy some to finish off the rears in my setup.
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Did I just miss out on the klipsch sale? I could have sworn the rp-160M bookshelfs were on sale last week. I was just about to buy some to finish off the rears in my setup.
The prices have bounced around a fair bit on Amazon.

Check out the prices on SoundDistributors.com, then call them to get an even better price.
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The prices have bounced around a fair bit on Amazon.

Check out the prices on SoundDistributors.com, then call them to get an even better price.
Thanks. He actually sold me the rp450c I have now.
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Just got a pair of RP260's which are a nice upgrade. Really happy with them, but now I've obviously got the bug to continue upgrading the rest of the my 5.1 system (Jamo E4 series from 15yrs ago).

My listening area is about 11.5'w by about 14' long (to back of couch) with an open area into the kitchen in the back. Unfortunately there's no room for rear speakers, so I'm limited to 5.1 (and atmos heights in the future). Also due to neighbors I'm limited to about -17db for movies.

For the centre I'm leaning towards the RP440c which looks like a pretty good bang for the buck upgrade over the RP250c alternative. Like the RP280's the RP450c is probably overkill for my needs.

My biggest question is about the RP240 surrounds. While most of the rear of the room is open, in the rear left there is a two foot wall/cabinet in the corner, so my left rear surround is in a corner parallel with the MLP. Is this going to be a problem with the one of the drivers firing towards a wall? It's obviously not ideal, but are the RP240's still a worthwhile upgrade over the direct firing R14s's?

Finally do the RP140 atmos modules fit on top of the RP260's? By the klipsch website measurements they should. They're still absurdly priced in Canada, but hopefully they come down in the future.
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Great to hear you loving the new RP260S! There is no such thing as overkill. Personally I would wait on upgrading your surrounds and go with the RP-450C it uses 5 1/4 inch instead of the RP-440C which uses 4 inch woofers. I would then use what you were going to spend on rear speakers and put the funds towards a new sub or another sub. You want to get the best center channel and subwoofer you can budget as there the 2 most important speakers in your home theater.

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about to finally purchase my RF-7/64. I cannot seem to make a decision on the color. Can you tell me which color you prefer, and why?

For us the Cherry looks to light in the pictures, cant find these things in any stores to actually look. The walnut looks a bit off, but nicer than the light cherry, the black seems like it may end up looking cheap.

We cant decide and would appreciate help.
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The cherry in person is stunning.
I agonize about this too, having never seen them with my own eyes. Cherry looks better to me with the grilles on, but I love how the copper cones look against black when the grilles are off.
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Great to hear you loving the new RP260S! There is no such thing as overkill. Personally I would wait on upgrading your surrounds and go with the RP-450C it uses 5 1/4 inch instead of the RP-440C which uses 4 inch woofers. I would then use what you were going to spend on rear speakers and put the funds towards a new sub or another sub. You want to get the best center channel and subwoofer you can budget as there the 2 most important speakers in your home theater.

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I'm curious, you say the RP-450 uses 5 1/4" which I realize is just echoing what the specs say, but has anyone noticed Klipsch drivers are actually one size smaller than the specs say?

Do all speaker manufacturers fudge their numbers on driver sizes or is this unique to Klipsch?

For example, here's one of the drivers on my RP-450C... 5 1/4" my ass... The opening in the cabinet is only 4 1/2"


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Very nice!
Hey Mongo, how's the foot feeling? I remember you saying you sprained your ankle or had a problem a couple of weeks back. You were right, the dual fans are more than enough to eliminate any concerns of the equipment running hot.

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Congrats on the ATI amps! Those are a couple of beautys and would like one someday for my setup Wait those msrp for 13 grand? I might have to change my mind about that lol.
Retail is for suckers. Here's a couple more photos with the logo on/off. Both amps come with optional rack ears. So, you can mount the amp without rack ears and the amp simply rests on the heavy duty shelf behind the vertical bars inside the AV rack or with rack ears and the amp still rests on the heavy duty shelf but the is now forward more so the ears are in front of the vertical bars inside the AV rack which gives you more clearance in the back in case you want to keep the rear of the rack enclosure on (so no wires show).

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Thanks again to the guy who recommended I check out ATI amps!!!

Hope everyone enjoys the Superbowl this weekend!
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I'm curious, you say the RP-450 uses 5 1/4" which I realize is just echoing what the specs say, but has anyone noticed Klipsch drivers are actually one size smaller than the specs say?

Do all speaker manufacturers fudge their numbers on driver sizes or is this unique to Klipsch?

For example, here's one of the drivers on my RP-450C... 5 1/4" my ass... The opening in the cabinet is only 4 1/2"

Hmm, that's indeed smaller than I would expect. I would typically expect a speaker diameter to measure from center to center of the foam surround. Maybe give them outside edge to outside edge. Now I need to go measure my RP-250C tonight, if I remember...

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Hmm, that's indeed smaller than I would expect. I would typically expect a speaker diameter to measure from center to center of the foam surround. Maybe give them outside edge to outside edge. Now I need to go measure my RP-250C tonight, if I remember...
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Hey Mongo, how's the foot feeling? I remember you saying you sprained your ankle or had a problem a couple of weeks back. You were right, the dual fans are more than enough to eliminate any concerns of the equipment running hot.



Retail is for suckers. Here's a couple more photos with the logo on/off. Both amps come with optional rack ears. So, you can mount the amp without rack ears and the amp simply rests on the heavy duty shelf behind the vertical bars inside the AV rack or with rack ears and the amp still rests on the heavy duty shelf but the is now forward more so the ears are in front of the vertical bars inside the AV rack which gives you more clearance in the back in case you want to keep the rear of the rack enclosure on (so no wires show).

Thanks again to the guy who recommended I check out ATI amps!!!

Hope everyone enjoys the Superbowl this weekend!
Hey Tony, Thanks for asking about the ankle. I have neuropathy (nerve damage) in both feet caused by a bad back. They tried to do a Tarsal Tunnel surgery to see if it would help. It didn't.

I was the one who mentioned the ATI amps. They're solid amps. Been loving mine for almost 20 years. I will be updating to a new one this year. Have fun with them!

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Indeed, my RP-450C has mid-woofers that are what I would call 4.25" in diameter, and the RP-160Ms are 5.5" across, middle of foam surround to middle of foam surround (because that represents the largest possible area actually moving air, IMHO). I measured my so-called 5" Sony speakers, and they are 4.25" across, and my really really old 3-way-speakers' woofers are only 10" across - I thought they were supposed to be 12" woofers. Maybe not. Weird.

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Sound Distributors are cross-shipping a replacement set of the RP-160Ms to me - UPS picked up the "bad pair" yesterday, and I got a shipping notice for the replacements about the same time. Should be here Friday (tomorrow), so Saturday afternoon might be when I give them a test run, if I don't get a chance tomorrow night.

Eric from Sound Distributors was very responsive, and I can't blame them for a bad tweeter from a random sampling of warehouse stock (can't possibly expect hem to unbox and test everything before it ships!). Hopefully this is a rarity, and the next round of Klipsch speakers I get to replace the remainder of my set-up will be glitch-free.
Got my replacement pair today. They sound great! And more importantly, the same! Both mid-woofers and both tweeters seem to work just fine.

I'll do some critical listening tonight, hopefully, but I think these will do just fine.
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Hmm, that's indeed smaller than I would expect. I would typically expect a speaker diameter to measure from center to center of the foam surround. Maybe give them outside edge to outside edge. Now I need to go measure my RP-250C tonight, if I remember...
They must be counting the diameter along the surface rather than across the opening, so the distance down into the center of the cone and back up to the other edge.
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Someone said in amother post that is something to do with the size of the frame of the woofer. I measured my old 12" Cerwin Vegas and they were like 11" something, must be the standard

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Finally finished my Klipsch Home Theatre System and have moved everything in.

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Thank you to all the people who have helped, criticised and pointed me in the right direction as it has really been appreciated and it has meant I have avoided some of the pitfalls that comes with the Dedicated Media Room build...

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Got my replacement pair today. They sound great! And more importantly, the same! Both mid-woofers and both tweeters seem to work just fine.

I'll do some critical listening tonight, hopefully, but I think these will do just fine.
Quoting myself again for context...

I listened to Steven Wilson's new EP, 4 1/2, on BD (5.1 DTS-HD MA) last night. Sounded very very nice. But I wasn't familiar with that music (my first listen), so this morning I put on a bit of his last full-length album, Hand.Cannot.Erase., also on BD, and that sounded very very nice again. I'm quite happy with the RP-160Ms and RP-250C up front. I dunno if it is the placebo effect from hearing the previous set with the one bad tweeter, but this sounded very clear, more detailed than I was used to.

Or may be it was because it was a rare morning listening session, so I was drinking coffee in the AM, vs drinking wine or beer in the PM...

I also moved the front mains in towards the center - previously I had them fairly wide (about 80 deg spread vs the nominal 60 deg recommended). They were wider than "recommended" because some surround music mixes are true Quad, and sound better with wider fronts. So now they are about 70 deg apart, closer to the ideal for the center seat in the front row, and pretty much bang on 60 deg for the center seat in the back row. So depending on whether the music is mixed as "5.1" or "4.0" I might switch my listening position.

Superbowl is tomorrow night, so the new speakers will get a work out there with all the cheering when Denver wins.





I keed, I keed, I don't really care who wins, I like both teams, I just want a good game. Oh, and good commercials.

Oh yeah, as wvu80 said: Outstanding setup Mr. Henhrig!
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Finally finished my Klipsch Home Theatre System and have moved everything in.

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Thank you to all the people who have helped, criticised and pointed me in the right direction as it has really been appreciated and it has meant I have avoided some of the pitfalls that comes with the Dedicated Media Room build...

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Impressive list for sure, congrats.

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Hi, i want to use the RP140SA as Surround Back speakers.
The MLP is about 2.5 meters from the back wall where i want to hang the 140SA.
What will the minimum and max height from the floor be for the 140SA when i use them for Surround Back speakers (around 80 cm beteen them from tweeter to tweeter) ?


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