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Hey guys and gals , I am bouncing all over the place as I'm trying to find a good scenario for listening to music in my home gym .
The Klipsch R28-F is what peaked my interest as I was debating to do doing an alcove installation in my home gym .
These would look killer as the cones would kinda look cool with the dumb bells .
I have a Cambridge 80w /2 amp and a Paradigm pw2100 10" sub for low end duties .

My concern is the tweeters get a lot of bad reviews . Wondering how you guys guys felt about them ?

I prefer a speaker with a front port as I don't think a rear port firing into an alcove is a good idea .
I was going to install them on each side of the mirror on the right . If I make the alcove wide enough I can turn them towards each other for better imaging .
I recently bought Paradigm in wall speakers but can take them back . They also sell Klipse.
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I have an older 12" Klipsch Sub (2007 model, can'r remember actual model) in my master Bedroom (paired with RF-62 system) and it rocks. Doesn't dig real deep, but has tons of mid bass punch.
Thanks. anyone else???
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........ but can take them back . They also sell Klipse.


Is Klipse a white van in the Walmart parking lot speaker? STAY AWAY!

Music, more music.
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Is Klipse a white van in the Walmart parking lot speaker? STAY AWAY!
Sorry , typo . (I really need to start proof reading more )
Meant Klipsch R28F
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Hey guys and gals , I am bouncing all over the place as I'm trying to find a good scenario for listening to music in my home gym .
The Klipsch R28-F is what peaked my interest as I was debating to do doing an alcove installation in my home gym .
These would look killer as the cones would kinda look cool with the dumb bells .
I have a Cambridge 80w /2 amp and a Paradigm pw2100 10" sub for low end duties .

My concern is the tweeters get a lot of bad reviews . Wondering how you guys guys felt about them ?

I prefer a speaker with a front port as I don't think a rear port firing into an alcove is a good idea .
I was going to install them on each side of the mirror on the right . If I make the alcove wide enough I can turn them towards each other for better imaging .
I recently bought Paradigm in wall speakers but can take them back . They also sell Klipse.
It's hard to tell from picture, but it looks like that room might have trouble with sound reflections. Unless you are going to be doing critical listening (and adding sound treatments), you might now want to invest to much into the speakers. The Klipsch Horns, may very well be to bright in that room.

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I'm looking for opinions on powering a pair of RP-260fs with a Marantz NR1506 in a simple (for now) 2.1 channel setup. I may or may not choose to get the matching center channel at a later time, but I have an opportunity to get a pair of the 260s now at at a very attractive price. This is for a non-dedicated family room environment for TV (steaming and OTA), Movies and music.
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Looking at potentially expanding my current Klipsch setup or starting over. Here is my current set up:
  • Klipsch Cornwall I
  • Yamaha AS300

I'm currently wanting to put together a 5.1 system but I'm torn on whether to keep this setup as a solely stereo set up for music, or to use the Cornwalls in a 5.1 setup. I would need to hunt down an Academy or single Heresy for the center, and I'm not sure what to use for rears. For the sub I was thinking of using an SVS PB1000. For the receiver I was looking at a Denon S710W (I was also looking at the X1200 but the Audyssey benefits didn't seem worth it to me). The only caveat to this would be that I am guessing that stereo listening from the receiver would not be as good as from the AS300 when listening to music.

The alternative to this would be using the same sub and receiver, but using ELAC B6's, ELAC C5, and some Cambridge Audio S30's I have laying around as rears until I can get another pair of B6's. I've also looked at the new UniFi UB5's and the matching center from ELAC and they seem great as well. I've also looked at the Klipsch reference line.

Using the Cornwalls would be the best and easiest set up of all but I'm worried about the ability to find a single Heresy or an Academy and I'm not sure what to use for rears. Just looking for some guidance between these options or even suggestions for other alternatives.
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I have an Academy I will be selling. I use Chorus II's for fronts and RS-62 II's for rears and a pair of SVS subs.
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I have an Academy I will be selling. I use Chorus II's for fronts and RS-62 II's for rears and a pair of SVS subs.
There's actually an academy for sale not too far from me. What would you say is a fair price to pay?
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There's actually an academy for sale not too far from me. What would you say is a fair price to pay?
I would say from 150-250, depending on condition.

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I'm looking for opinions on powering a pair of RP-260fs with a Marantz NR1506 in a simple (for now) 2.1 channel setup. I may or may not choose to get the matching center channel at a later time, but I have an opportunity to get a pair of the 260s now at at a very attractive price. This is for a non-dedicated family room environment for TV (steaming and OTA), Movies and music.
That AVR will be fine. They don't need much power. My AVR is listed at 40 or 45 watts/channel depending on the source of the info and it has plenty of power.

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Looking at potentially expanding my current Klipsch setup or starting over. Here is my current set up:
  • Klipsch Cornwall I
  • Yamaha AS300

I'm currently wanting to put together a 5.1 system but I'm torn on whether to keep this setup as a solely stereo set up for music, or to use the Cornwalls in a 5.1 setup. I would need to hunt down an Academy or single Heresy for the center, and I'm not sure what to use for rears. For the sub I was thinking of using an SVS PB1000. For the receiver I was looking at a Denon S710W (I was also looking at the X1200 but the Audyssey benefits didn't seem worth it to me). The only caveat to this would be that I am guessing that stereo listening from the receiver would not be as good as from the AS300 when listening to music.

The alternative to this would be using the same sub and receiver, but using ELAC B6's, ELAC C5, and some Cambridge Audio S30's I have laying around as rears until I can get another pair of B6's. I've also looked at the new UniFi UB5's and the matching center from ELAC and they seem great as well. I've also looked at the Klipsch reference line.

Using the Cornwalls would be the best and easiest set up of all but I'm worried about the ability to find a single Heresy or an Academy and I'm not sure what to use for rears. Just looking for some guidance between these options or even suggestions for other alternatives.
Keep those Cornwalls. You will find a lot more help for your questions over on the klipsch forums. The guys there know their heritage speakers and they have a garage sale section.
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Hello I am looking at upgrading to either the RP-250F or the RP-260F. Other than the speakers on the 260 being larger I am not sure which I should go with. I expect to be moving soon and that will change my set up but currently I am about 8 feet from my Pioneer towers. My living room is about 161 square feet with another 140 sq ft dinning room attached if that helps. Any input would be really appreciated it. Will the 250's be appropriate for my room size, are the 260's to large?

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Hello I am looking at upgrading to either the RP-250F or the RP-260F. Other than the speakers on the 260 being larger I am not sure which I should go with. I expect to be moving soon and that will change my set up but currently I am about 8 feet from my Pioneer towers. My living room is about 161 square feet with another 140 sq ft dinning room attached if that helps. Any input would be really appreciated it. Will the 250's be appropriate for my room size, are the 260's to large?
I would get the largest you can. The volume is going to be the same regardless. I feel the smaller 5" speakers are to bright. At least that was my experience with the RF-52 setup. I actually preferred the RB-61 (single 6" woofer bookshelf) over my RF-52's. Bookshelfs are a good salution for smaller rooms if you are using a capable subwoofer as well.
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I would get the largest you can. The volume is going to be the same regardless. I feel the smaller 5" speakers are to bright. At least that was my experience with the RF-52 setup. I actually preferred the RB-61 (single 6" woofer bookshelf) over my RF-52's. Bookshelfs are a good salution for smaller rooms if you are using a capable subwoofer as well.
Thanks I ended up ordering the RP-260F's and the RP-250C for now. Hopefully these are an appreciable upgrade over my Andrew Jones FS52's. Next will either be some rears or the sub. Any input on what sub pairs well with the Klipsch 260s?
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Thanks I ended up ordering the RP-260F's and the RP-250C for now. Hopefully these are an appreciable upgrade over my Andrew Jones FS52's. Next will either be some rears or the sub. Any input on what sub pairs well with the Klipsch 260s?
RP-160M would be good surrounds, or even the older RB-61's. HSU, SVS, Power Sound, and other Internet Direct Sub companies would be my suggestion for Subs. They tend to dig deeper than Klipsch. Klipsch are good for mid bass punch.

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Thanks I ended up ordering the RP-260F's and the RP-250C for now. Hopefully these are an appreciable upgrade over my Andrew Jones FS52's. Next will either be some rears or the sub. Any input on what sub pairs well with the Klipsch 260s?
Look at an svs pb2000 as a starting point for good subs. Anything less and I would just save more money, you can definitely go bigger though. Any id companies are worth looking at if diy is not for you.
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I just clicked confirm, the RP250F's and 250C will be here tuesday, thanks for the info guys.


I do have a sub, a Klipsch R10sw. i know this is minor to some here, but this is the most i have ever spent on speakers, so i am so freaking jazzed right now!!
Love your enthusiasm. That's how it should be. Hope you enjoy!
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I just clicked confirm, the RP250F's and 250C will be here tuesday, thanks for the info guys.


I do have a sub, a Klipsch R10sw. i know this is minor to some here, but this is the most i have ever spent on speakers, so i am so freaking jazzed right now!!
Congrats…..I'll bet you will like these a lot.
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UPS got them to me a day early!!!


I did the world’s worst unboxing video and am uploading it to YouTube; reason being is there were almost no real info on this these towers on YouTube. I got them hooked up just fine and after getting everything tuned in even my wife was like “WOW THOSE SOUND GOOD!” and when mamma is happy the whole house is happy. They have a much more vibrant sound than the FS52’s , the 250C blows that Andrew jones center away. I did notice that 250f did not have the ever present bass that the fs52’s did, but at the same time it produced some really good deep bass during the LOTR:TT when Gandalf is fighting fire&smoke.


I did run into one problem but I am not sure if this is the place to look for help, I have the 250f, the 250c and the Klipsch rs-10. I sat and listened to a few music tracks when I first hooked everything up to my RX479, I had to keep the level on my re10 down to about 15% of its max as I live in an apartment right now and the higher levels literally shake the walls. After running YAPO I had to turn the bass level all the way up just to get good sound from the thing. Did I do something wrong (well of course I did) but what did I do wrong would be the better question?
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UPS got them to me a day early!!!


I did the world’s worst unboxing video and am uploading it to YouTube; reason being is there were almost no real info on this these towers on YouTube. I got them hooked up just fine and after getting everything tuned in even my wife was like “WOW THOSE SOUND GOOD!” and when mamma is happy the whole house is happy. They have a much more vibrant sound than the FS52’s , the 250C blows that Andrew jones center away. I did notice that 250f did not have the ever present bass that the fs52’s did, but at the same time it produced some really good deep bass during the LOTR:TT when Gandalf is fighting fire&smoke.


I did run into one problem but I am not sure if this is the place to look for help, I have the 250f, the 250c and the Klipsch rs-10. I sat and listened to a few music tracks when I first hooked everything up to my RX479, I had to keep the level on my re10 down to about 15% of its max as I live in an apartment right now and the higher levels literally shake the walls. After running YAPO I had to turn the bass level all the way up just to get good sound from the thing. Did I do something wrong (well of course I did) but what did I do wrong would be the better question?
When you ran YPAO what was the gain set at on your sub? What trim did YPAO set the sub after that? What trim did it set your new speakers at?
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When you ran YPAO what was the gain set at on your sub? What trim did YPAO set the sub after that? What trim did it set your new speakers at?
The gain on the sub was set to about 15-20%. From what i could find in my settings it changed the level of the sub to go as far down as it could go. Not sure why it did that and i will have to look at the other speakers too


Was looking into some rear speakers and couldn't find the R-145 for sale anywhere, are they that old?
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The gain on the sub was set to about 15-20%. From what i could find in my settings it changed the level of the sub to go as far down as it could go. Not sure why it did that and i will have to look at the other speakers too


Was looking into some rear speakers and couldn't find the R-145 for sale anywhere, are they that old?
Try running the calibration again with a higher sub gain, maybe even as much as 70% or more. I am not sure about YPAO but audyssey you want to set the sub trim around -10 and then turn the gain on the receiver up 3-6 db. All your other speaker trims should be more than -12.

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Was looking into some rear speakers and couldn't find the R-145 for sale anywhere, are they that old?
Do you mean r14m? They are the latest version of the lower line speakers.

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YPAO after calibration receiver that gave W1 mistake for Hight Speakers - phase error, but all connected correctly.
I think it is not worth paying attention to it - it's probably because of the microphone

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incorrect length for the left Hight Speaker has been exposed: 4.3 m (and 8.4 m to the right), I changed a little angle and then calibration - was 8.3 m.

3. Also YPAO assigned to all speakers - Big, I rearranged in Small. The frequency crossover set at 80 Hz for all speakers.

When doing sub calibration is necessary to put in 50% Gain or a maximum?
I did so, to put in Sub in LFE and Gain at 50%: YPAO assigns -5dB (if LFE and Gain 100% = YPAO assigns -10dB)

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YPAO after calibration receiver that gave W1 mistake for Hight Speakers - phase error, but all connected correctly.
I think it is not worth paying attention to it - it's probably because of the microphone

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incorrect length for the left Hight Speaker has been exposed: 4.3 m (and 8.4 m to the right), I changed a little angle and then calibration - was 8.3 m.

3. Also YPAO assigned to all speakers - Big, I rearranged in Small. The frequency crossover set at 80 Hz for all speakers.

When doing sub calibration is necessary to put in 50% Gain or a maximum?
I did so, to put in Sub in LFE and Gain at 50%: YPAO assigns -5dB (if LFE and Gain 100% = YPAO assigns -10dB)
For the sub calibration I would shoot for -10, then you can turn it up to -6 or even -3 to run the subs hot

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I would also like to clarify what is different from 450CA and 450C?
p.s. in the previous message was mounted 450CA
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I would also like to clarify what is different from 450CA and 450C?
p.s. in the previous message was mounted 450CA
I dont think there is any difference, if there is I dont know what it is

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I would also like to clarify what is different from 450CA and 450C?
p.s. in the previous message was mounted 450CA
The only difference is matching veneer to the 280FA.


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Try running the calibration again with a higher sub gain, maybe even as much as 70% or more. I am not sure about YPAO but audyssey you want to set the sub trim around -10 and then turn the gain on the receiver up 3-6 db. All your other speaker trims should be more than -12.

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You want the trim set closest to 0 as possible (then you can bump it if you want). -12 is the limit it can adjust. You want to stay away from -12 limits.

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