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With all the talk of atmos here, I guess I'll give it a shot myself.

I've been looking for some decent on-ceiling speakers, but I'm having a little difficulty finding some, as most of them are in-ceiling. I can't use the latter because I live in a apartment, so I'm not too keen on making big holes in the ceiling!

What I've been looking at/or been suggested by sales-rep:
  • Klipsch AW-650 (I've read the last couple of pages and seen them mentioned
  • Klipsch RP-240S
  • Tannoy Di6DC (seems like a favorite, but they are not available anymore)
(I'm a little uncertain of the next three)
  • System Audio Saxo 5
  • System Audio Talent
  • Boston Bravo 20
I have about 2.5m (8,2ft) to the ceiling.

The budget it's around 150-300USD/each, but I can go higher if needed.

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As for the receiver, I have been a little torn between three models. It's either a Marantz SR7010, Denon AVR-X6200W or Yamaha RX-A3050 Aventage. I know this probably isn't the right section, but can anyone give me some input to help me choose

I'm also getting the Oppo BDP103 player to get a great source for the atmos!

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Try to find some Gallery series Klipsch models. They are slim, and will retain the height needed. They all have built in mounting features.

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I've been happy with AW-525s as on-ceiling speakers.
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I am building a 7.4 Atmos theater using all in-wall and in-ceiling speakers.

I don't know what the normal price difference is but right now I'm looking at about a $50 difference between the 5800 models and the 5650.

For the purpose of atmos, is there enough of difference between the 5650 and 5800 to justify the upgrade? I've never even heard an Atmos system so I don't know how much content actually comes through the ceiling speakers. My guess is it is not a lot. So not sure if I should make the upgrade.

For the rest of my speakers I'm using seven in wall speakers all around so the price difference is under $400 to upgrade all seven. Is it worth the upgrade? I've demo'd the 5650 and thought it was a little sharp, will the bigger 8" woofer in the 5800 help with the harshness of the horns?
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I am building a 7.4 Atmos theater using all in-wall and in-ceiling speakers.

I don't know what the normal price difference is but right now I'm looking at about a $50 difference between the 5800 models and the 5650.

For the purpose of atmos, is there enough of difference between the 5650 and 5800 to justify the upgrade? I've never even heard an Atmos system so I don't know how much content actually comes through the ceiling speakers. My guess is it is not a lot. So not sure if I should make the upgrade.

For the rest of my speakers I'm using seven in wall speakers all around so the price difference is under $400 to upgrade all seven. Is it worth the upgrade? I've demo'd the 5650 and thought it was a little sharp, will the bigger 8" woofer in the 5800 help with the harshness of the horns?
I debated the same thing and spoke with a couple klipsch people. The 5650 is more than sufficient for atmos. There is really no need for a 8" woofer. Plus the cut out hole size for the 5800 is around 10 inches I believe. I'm happy with the 5650's I have.

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I debated the same thing and spoke with a couple klipsch people. The 5650 is more than sufficient for atmos. There is really no need for a 8" woofer. Plus the cut out hole size for the 5800 is around 10 inches I believe. I'm happy with the 5650's I have.
What about 5650 vs 8500 in-walls?
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What about 5650 vs 8500 in-walls?
Why would you put an In-wall in the ceiling

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I wouldn't. My original question was about 5650 vs 8500 for in-ceiling. And I also asked about 5650 vs 8500 for in-wall. I got an answer about the ceiling speakers but not about the wall speakers. I never said I was going to put in-walls in the ceiling.
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What about 5650 vs 8500 in-walls?
For any system I would prefer floorstanding speakers over in-wall any day of the week. Do you have room for the rp-280's? I got all 4 of mine for $20 more each than the msrp for the in-wall 5800's. You'll get a more fuller sound with floor standing speakers verse in-wall.

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For any system I would prefer floorstanding speakers over in-wall any day of the week. Do you have room for the rp-280's? I got all 4 of mine for $20 more each than the msrp for the in-wall 5800's. You'll get a more fuller sound with floor standing speakers verse in-wall.
I am fully aware of the pros and cons of floorstanding speakers vs in-wall. I'm not going to get into all the reasons here but I've decided to go with in-walls and a floorstanding sub. I just need to figure out of the upgrade from 5650 to 8500 in-walls is worth it. My guess is that the jump to an 8" woofer from 6.5" makes it worth it.
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Klipsch owner thread

Sad to say I have to let all my Klipsch gear go, no longer have the room for it . RB-61's, RC 52 and RS 42's exceeded my expectations and sounded phenomenal.

I'm going to put them up for sale on the AVS forums first, so if anyone is interested please feel free to shoot me a message. Will give you a good deal. It's the shipping that scares me lol
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Haven't been on hear in a while. So many new Palladium owners!

I too have owned several Klipsch speakers (La Scala II's, RF-83's) and the Palladium's are by far the most realistic sounding speaker I've owned. Hands down my system is the best setup I've ever heard (and I've heard a few half million dollar systems), but I also spent several years studying room acoustics to get there.

Put some dual subs with these and you'll be in audio heaven.

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Here's some teaser pics and REW measurements of my current palladium setup:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1J0a4OV_WGLUVZBNUJBR29LTEU

It's been pretty stable the last 6-8 months, running out of things to improve. My REW plots are top notch at this point, but I don't get to measure a lot of other acoustically treated systems. The noise floor is a little high in the REW measurements due to the MiniDSP USB mic, but I'm now using an Earthworks M30 mic and external soundcard. Just need to rerun Dirac and update the REW measurements.

I also have some excellent P-17b's; just waiting for a processor with Atmos (Emotiva XMR-1 is coming someday)...

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etc849, that is one nice setup! Gotta ask if those subs obstruct your view of the screen or is just the angle of the pic?
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HELP!

I'm planning to put Klipsch in-wall speakers in my theater and trying to figure out the differences between some of Klipsch's offerings is an exercise in futility.

As a baseline, my installer steered me towards the Reference speakers and I was going to go with the top of the line R-5800 W II. However, the entire Pro 6000 line is cheaper but as far as I can tell, I think Klipsch ranks the 6000's as a higher end line than Reference. So do I go with the R-5800 or 6000 series?

I understand the THX line is definitely higher up the food chain, but trying to figure out which model to go with is another frustrating endeavor.

TLDR - 1) Are any of the Pro 6000 speakers better than the Reference 5800? 2) For a theater that's 12' W x 16' D am I going to gain anything by jumping up to the THX?

The theater will be Atmos 7.4 with the 4 atmos speakers being in the ceiling.

P.S. Please don't tell me that I'll get better sound for less money with floor standing or bookshelf speakers. I know. It's not an option.

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Here's some teaser pics and REW measurements of my current palladium setup:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1J0a4OV_WGLUVZBNUJBR29LTEU

It's been pretty stable the last 6-8 months, running out of things to improve. My REW plots are top notch at this point, but I don't get to measure a lot of other acoustically treated systems. The noise floor is a little high in the REW measurements due to the MiniDSP USB mic, but I'm now using an Earthworks M30 mic and external soundcard. Just need to rerun Dirac and update the REW measurements.

I also have some excellent P-17b's; just waiting for a processor with Atmos (Emotiva XMR-1 is coming someday)...

P39's? JL Gothams?

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Some obstruction of few inches, but only in anamorphic mode.

Can't fit Gotham's or any cheaper DIY option as I have a 16 inch x 8 ft bass trap under screen. Using some fathoms.

Plenty of bass as is, below 1% THD too. Decay times are insanely low.
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Hello. I'm getting an urge to build a HT system (really an apartment system until I move). This week, Best Buy has the R-26 towers on sale for half off at $176. Is that too good to pass up or should i save up for the RP line?

Too add to my anxiety, I found a RF-3, RC-3, and RS-3 set for $525 total. I know they're pretty old at this point, but would they be decent set up if they're in good condition?

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I'm still using my Mirage Nanosat 5.1 (technically Klipsch, right?) set that I got several years ago in my smaller-than-average condo living room. The center has always been the weak point of this set, and I'm considering picking up the R-440C that's on sale at Amazon today to bolster the system. The question is, if the center speaker so dramatically outclasses the L/R, will I have an issue with balance/timbre or can it still work out with decent EQ? I've got the Denon 710W, so it would be Audyssey MultiEQ.

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Hello. I'm getting an urge to build a HT system (really an apartment system until I move). This week, Best Buy has the R-26 towers on sale for half off at $176. Is that too good to pass up or should i save up for the RP line?

Too add to my anxiety, I found a RF-3, RC-3, and RS-3 set for $525 total. I know they're pretty old at this point, but would they be decent set up if they're in good condition?

Any suggestions are appreciated!
If you are apartment living or in a small room, 13x15 or so, the R-26 will be plenty to make you super happy. If you ever move to a place where you have a dedicated, larger room, you might want to step up. I have a pair of KF-26, which is pretty much the exact same speaker, in that size room and they will give you all you want plus some.

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If you are apartment living or in a small room, 13x15 or so, the R-26 will be plenty to make you super happy. If you ever move to a place where you have a dedicated, larger room, you might want to step up. I have a pair of KF-26, which is pretty much the exact same speaker, in that size room and they will give you all you want plus some.
Thanks for the reply. What about a sub? The R-10SW is on sale for $176. Is it decent or should I look elsewhere at something like the BIC F12, Polk PSW505, or something to build around in the future with the SVS PB-1000?
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Talking We have joined the honorable and elite Klipsch owners club

Long time lurker - first time poster. Worth the wait Finally arrived at the UPS Store. We proud and happy to join the fangirlsclub of Klipsch speakers. The Denon AVr-X6200W also arrived so we are all smiles. Now we are ready to start the room creation process.

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Now i have a 5.1.4

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RP-150M (surrounds) 90°
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now i would buy new cables "SUPRA PLY 3.4S" i think these cables will sounds very good.

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now i would buy new cables "SUPRA PLY 3.4S" i think these cables will sounds very good.

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Approx. price: 20 $ per meter (may vary from Country to Country)

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Here costs like 10-11euros mt
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I'll admit that I have no idea what your options are across the pond, but we're able to get cables for cheap here...

The first cable listed from Monoprice is https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_...seq=1&format=2
Which is $31.99 for 100ft which is around 30 meters, or about $4/meter.

BlueJeans has their's priced per foot...https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm
And they're about the same cost.

There are other options, I'm sure, but these two companies are referenced frequently. Spending a bunch of money on cable just seems like a waste, when it really doesn't make a bit of difference as long as you have the right gauge and actually connected them appropriately.

If you're options are so limited that 10-11 euros a meter is a completely reasonable price point, then I send my condolences!

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I'll admit that I have no idea what your options are across the pond, but we're able to get cables for cheap here...

The first cable listed from Monoprice is https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_...seq=1&format=2
Which is $31.99 for 100ft which is around 30 meters, or about $4/meter.
Wouldn't that be $1.05/meter?

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Wouldn't that be $1.05/meter?
It would be! You'd never guess that I do math for a living...
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I posted this in a separate thread because I need an answer relatively quickly, but since it's a Klipsch specific question I'll ask here. Even though I didn't get an answer to my last question about the Pro 6000 so I'm thinking you guys aren't familiar with that line.

Anyway... I'm trying to figure out which of these two speakers is the better model. The Pro-6800W has one 8" woofer + one tweeter and is more expensive. The Pro-6602-W has two 6.5" woofers + two tweeters and is cheaper but has all the same technical specs. If you read the product descriptions they are pretty much 99% identical except for the physical description of the speakers.

According to a kid I talked to at Klipsch, he said the 6602 is "definitely" a better speaker. But why would it be priced cheaper? I know price doesn't indicate quality but usually within one product line, the higher priced speaker is the better one.

In a 7.4 Atmost theater, which one is better as L/R speaker?

As a follow up question, my surrounds have to be 6602 because of space limitations. Should I use 6602 for L/R even if the 6800 is the better speaker?
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Thanks for everyone's input and help on upgrading from my RF-62IIs. I ended up getting a great deal from Nexgen76 and purchased his RF-7IIs and RC-64II. Thanks again Nexgen76. Enjoyed meeting you. I am loving the RF-7IIs!
Hey guys,

Thought I would give you an update. While I am still liking my RF-7IIs overall I am wondering if I have them set up properly or the acoustics of my room is affecting them. I find myself often listening to 2 channel music and while they sound very good they just don't hit nearly as hard as I thought they would for the massive size of them. The Audyssey MultEQ XT32 has them set to -6.5 DB on my Denon X4100 so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I showed a friend them for the first time who is also a big audio fan. He thought they sounded good overall with the mids and highs but said he was also expecting a lot more oomph out of them (for lack of a better word) considering the size of the 10" woofers. He also made the comment that the (1) of the woofers on each of the towers seemed to be moving more than the other (Is it possible that the woofers are blown and is there a test to do that).

Anyways I have long known that I need to upgrade the sub and that's where your bass should come from. I just wanted to get opinions on possible things that could cause what is going on.

And speaking of the sub upgrade. I just ordered a Rythmik FV15HP! I am pumped about that and I know that will make a huge improvement. I would still like to know if I should be concerned on the RF-7IIs before I integrate the new sub.

Thanks
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