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That looks like one hell of a setup, the only addition I would make possibly would be an emotiva xpa 5 or 7.. I know klipsch are extremely efficient but I'd take some of the load off the AVR. Run your primary 5 or 7 speakers off the emotiva and the rest from the AVR.
The YAMAHA 3060 is the contender for my AVR. Is it ok to exceed the 150RMS of the speaker? My LCR, RR and LR are the Klipsch 28F and about to pull the trigger on a Emotiva XPA5 Gen 3. Long time home theater enthusiast...first being in a position to externally amplify my setup. Would appreciate the feedback!
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Ok, so I'm displaying my ignorance!

I don't even know what the BBF 1000 is!!
It's a prototype horn sub with ten 10" drivers with a 10,000 watt amp! The drivers all face different directions similar to a Bose 901

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The YAMAHA 3060 is the contender for my AVR. Is it ok to exceed the 150RMS of the speaker? My LCR, RR and LR are the Klipsch 28F and about to pull the trigger on a Emotiva XPA5 Gen 3. Long time home theater enthusiast...first being in a position to externally amplify my setup. Would appreciate the feedback!
Not a problem if your amp wattage exceeds your speakers max wattage. Your ears would explode before the speakers.

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Not a problem if your amp wattage exceeds your speakers max wattage. Your ears would explode before the speakers.
Thank you!
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I apologize in advance if this is not the place to ask this question. Could someone please explain to me what the difference in adding height speakers to my 5.1 set up versus in-ceiling for a Dolby Atmos upgrade. Will I be able to reproduce Dolby Atmos effects if I just go with adding height speakers? My main concern with adding in-ceiling is the size of the holes compared to what I'd be making with just adding height speakers. I currently have my two RP-250S's on the walls, so I would be adding two more as front heights and then I'm thinking two wireless bookshelves for the surrounds next to the couch, which would give me four height speakers on the walls and no need to cut large holes into the ceiling of my new home. Thanks in advance.

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I apologize in advance if this is not the place to ask this question. Could someone please explain to me what the difference in adding height speakers to my 5.1 set up versus in-ceiling for a Dolby Atmos upgrade. Will I be able to reproduce Dolby Atmos effects if I just go with adding height speakers? My main concern with adding in-ceiling is the size of the holes compared to what I'd be making with just adding height speakers. I currently have my two RP-250S's on the walls, so I would be adding two more as front heights and then I'm thinking two wireless bookshelves for the surrounds next to the couch, which would give me four height speakers on the walls and no need to cut large holes into the ceiling of my new home. Thanks in advance.
You dnt need in ceiling speakers for atmos. Some small speakers will work good mounted to the ceiling.

As for heights as atmos, from my understanding, it depends on the room size and obstacles. Small rooms can get away with it where large rooms cannot. My small room has a header in the center of it that sticks a foot down so it wouldn't work either.

However, if you have the speakers why not try both? See which ones work better
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You dnt need in ceiling speakers for atmos. Some small speakers will work good mounted to the ceiling.

As for heights as atmos, from my understanding, it depends on the room size and obstacles. Small rooms can get away with it where large rooms cannot. My small room has a header in the center of it that sticks a foot down so it wouldn't work either.

However, if you have the speakers why not try both? See which ones work better
Thanks for your reply. We have a fairly large living room. 17x19. There is a large ceiling fan in the middle of the room. That's the only obstacle. I only have the 5.1 set up right now. I was just considering buying two more heights and two bookshelf speakers to use as lower surrounds for Atmos.

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Thanks for your reply. We have a fairly large living room. 17x19. There is a large ceiling fan in the middle of the room. That's the only obstacle. I only have the 5.1 set up right now. I was just considering buying two more heights and two bookshelf speakers to use as lower surrounds for Atmos.

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The ceiling fan will have no affect.

SVS makes a wall mount speaker that they say is suitable for Atmos when used as height channel setup.

https://www.svsound.com/pages/prime-elevation

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The ceiling fan will have no affect.

SVS makes a wall mount speaker that they say is suitable for Atmos when used as height channel setup.

https://www.svsound.com/pages/prime-elevation
Could I use the RP-140SA's mounted high on the walls as well? I guess, I'm not understanding what you would use height speakers for, if not for Atmos.

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Quick question.

Two R-12sw or One R-115sw

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If you can swing it in your budget, go for the 2 12's. You won't regret it.
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If you can swing it in your budget, go for the 2 12's. You won't regret it.
I have 2 r-12sw now. Just thinking if 1 r-115 would be better..

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I have 2 r-12sw now. Just thinking if 1 r-115 would be better..

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I certainly understand your thinking. The 15 will dig deeper and has more juice compared to a single 12. However, after going both routes from one sub to two back to one and now back to two I prefer the two sub set up. The combined power and smoother frequency response generally achieved with using two 12's vs. one, I think would sound better but that's based on my ears and preferences. You certainly have a great front with the 82's and 62 and the two 12's. Just go ahead and do two 15's!
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How will the rb-61ii match with the rf-82ii and rc-62ii?
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I'm thinking too big...
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I wish I could find some rb-51ii around me. They might look better.
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i havent hooked them up because i am not sure i want to keep them. in person the are huuuge lol.
It's understandable that you have some concerned about the size of the RB-61's. However, it should be more about the sound. Per your original question, the 6" drivers of the 61's will match better with your RF-82's and RC-62's. Additionally, should you ever use them in a larger space, the RB-61 will play louder than the RB-51. Consider also, that the RB-61's are actually small compared to others who use RB-81's and towers for surrounds. And lastly, hopefully you took advantage of Fry's sale ending today...RB-61's are going for $199 per pair!!!
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It's understandable that you have some concerned about the size of the RB-61's. However, it should be more about the sound. Per your original question, the 6" drivers of the 61's will match better with your RF-82's and RC-62's. Additionally, should you ever use them in a larger space, the RB-61 will play louder than the RB-51. Consider also, that the RB-61's are actually small compared to others who use RB-81's and towers for surrounds. And lastly, hopefully you took advantage of Fry's sale ending today...RB-61's are going for $199 per pair!!!
Yeah got them from frys.

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I certainly understand your thinking. The 15 will dig deeper and has more juice compared to a single 12. However, after going both routes from one sub to two back to one and now back to two I prefer the two sub set up. The combined power and smoother frequency response generally achieved with using two 12's vs. one, I think would sound better but that's based on my ears and preferences. You certainly have a great front with the 82's and 62 and the two 12's. Just go ahead and do two 15's!
I was waiting for the advice of (2) 15" subs....beat me to it.

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I was waiting for the advice of (2) 15" subs....beat me to it.
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Yeah got them from frys.

I think I'll keep them!

Congrat's and enjoy them!!! It is always nice and handy to have a pair of good bookshelf in the house if not good for one use always possible to move them to next rooma specially for cheap deal like Fry's have now.
They are great, I love my bookshelfs !!! Only what Klipsch can do better on RB-61II was add some threaded inserts. To not have them was reason for me to go with RB-81II over RB-61II for front heights.
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I was waiting for the advice of (2) 15" subs....beat me to it.
I have 2 15's in my setup and absolutely love them! I wanted something that wouldn't push the subs to their limits while filling a large open space. I'm glad I caught them on sale at Fry's.
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I have 2 15's in my setup and absolutely love them! I wanted something that wouldn't push the subs to their limits while filling a large open space. I'm glad I caught them on sale at Fry's.
Did you just buy them?

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Did you just buy them?

I've had them about 4 weeks. I'm still working on putting the finishing touches on my setup. The speakers are all in place but I'm also considering upgrading my AVR and adding a pair of Klipsch in-ceiling speakers for the rear ATMOS. The projector screen arrives on Wednesday. I'll upload some pics once it's done.

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I have 2 15's in my setup and absolutely love them! I wanted something that wouldn't push the subs to their limits while filling a large open space. I'm glad I caught them on sale at Fry's.
You two 15's are like four 12's.

Two subs make a huge difference.
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I had the same question. I'm running two R-12SW's. I did buy the R-115SW and have been playing with it this morning. I'm trying to find reasons to say the single R-115 is better than running two R-12SW's. I'm falling short on convincing myself. The R-115 is really deep, But the r-12's are really holding there own. I did have to turn up the sub volume 10+db on my denon to match the bass output the R-12's were producing. I want to assume the R-115 is better, and for just $399. I did plan on moving one of the R-12's to my bedroom to run with the R-26f's and rp-250c in there, and maybe run the other R-12sw with the R-115 in the living room.
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I had the same question. I'm running two R-12SW's. I did buy the R-115SW and have been playing with it this morning. I'm trying to find reasons to say the single R-115 is better than running two R-12SW's. I'm falling short on convincing myself. The R-115 is really deep, But the r-12's are really holding there own. I did have to turn up the sub volume 10+db on my denon to match the bass output the R-12's were producing. I want to assume the R-115 is better, and for just $399. I did plan on moving one of the R-12's to my bedroom to run with the R-26f's and rp-250c in there, and maybe run the other R-12sw with the R-115 in the living room.
yeah the frys deal is what sparked this thought. i think the 2 R-12SW are pretty bada$s and i think i will just keep them.
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yeah the frys deal is what sparked this thought. i think the 2 R-12SW are pretty bada$s and i think i will just keep them.
Yeah, when i saw that in the add i ordered it in a heartbeat lol. I do need another sub for my bedroom setup which is also why i jumped on the 115, being that i would put one of my R-12's in the bedroom. I would still have to spend $150-$200 for a sub for the bedroom. So to me, the R-115 was a little more cost effective by getting a beast for the living room and getting a sub for the bedroom, kinda made sense to me. I'm confused..
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Yeah, when i saw that in the add i ordered it in a heartbeat lol. I do need another sub for my bedroom setup which is also why i jumped on the 115, being that i would put one of my R-12's in the bedroom. I would still have to spend $150-$200 for a sub for the bedroom. So to me, the R-115 was a little more cost effective by getting a beast for the living room and getting a sub for the bedroom, kinda made sense to me. I'm confused..
How would the R-12SW and R-115SW match up?

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Hello! I've decided on Kipsch speakers for the final upgrade on my HT set up. I have a couple questions though and didn't find the answers in my search:

Will the RP-450C match alright with the RP-260F's?

I'd like to set my TV on top of the center channel (TV is 52.5lbs) and the TV stand is about 32.5" wide at the widest point. The 450 is not quite that wide, but it's wide enough. The 440 is definitely too skinny. Putting a center on the lower shelf of my stand is too low, and my TV needs to come up ~5" anyways.

I also intend to go for an Atmos setup in the future but my current rented house has a vaulted ceiling so ceiling mount would be difficult and bouncing sound is out. For a 7.1 setup should I go with the RP-240's for side surrounds and RP-150 for rear? Would the smaller surrounds have trouble keeping up with the front 260s/450? I'm interested in the 240s/250s because they need to be so close to the seating. I understand I'll have to sell them off and replace with monopoles when I go Atmos?

Receiver will be a Denon X4300H.

Thanks for the input. I'm pretty excited about being able to get a Klipsch system. It's the brand I always wanted growing up but never had the means.
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The only issue with placing a TV directly on top of a center channel is you lose the ability to tilt the speaker up and aim it at ear height. You could potentially place your TV on top of a riser instead. The center speaker would then be put underneath the riser, giving you the flexibility to angle the center speaker upwards.

The other option is to wall-mount the TV.

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How would the R-12SW and R-115SW match up?
I've never matched different subs. If you have room correction that level matches and calibrates 2 subs in the avrs software it would help. If not all you can do is try it and see how close you can get them and if they pair well together.

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Hello! I've decided on Kipsch speakers for the final upgrade on my HT set up. I have a couple questions though and didn't find the answers in my search:

Will the RP-450C match alright with the RP-260F's?

I'd like to set my TV on top of the center channel (TV is 52.5lbs) and the TV stand is about 32.5" wide at the widest point. The 450 is not quite that wide, but it's wide enough. The 440 is definitely too skinny. Putting a center on the lower shelf of my stand is too low, and my TV needs to come up ~5" anyways.

I also intend to go for an Atmos setup in the future but my current rented house has a vaulted ceiling so ceiling mount would be difficult and bouncing sound is out. For a 7.1 setup should I go with the RP-240's for side surrounds and RP-150 for rear? Would the smaller surrounds have trouble keeping up with the front 260s/450? I'm interested in the 240s/250s because they need to be so close to the seating. I understand I'll have to sell them off and replace with monopoles when I go Atmos?

Receiver will be a Denon X4300H.

Thanks for the input. I'm pretty excited about being able to get a Klipsch system. It's the brand I always wanted growing up but never had the means.
You have the same thoughts as me as far as sides and rears. How far away from the listening position will the 240s and 150m be? Is the room large or small? My room is only around 1500cu ft so the 240s and 150s will be more than enough
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