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I come across this on the various facebook groups a lot. It usually stems from people making assumptions based on the lower tier Klipsch offerings. Kind of ridiculous considering the likes of the Jubilee, P39f, KPT-942 etc etc are from the same company
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Hi! Can i ask more detailed comparison between RF-35 and the new RP-280F. Stupid question but Is it really worth the upgrade? Hehe. I know the new one's always better, is there a big difference between the two towers? ty


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So this is a hard one. I believe there was a noticeable difference, but that is up to each listener. For me the spend was not a huge deal as I was upgrading the receiver and subs as well. If money is real tight I don't know if I would say the spend is worth it. I like the improvements, but is it dramatic I can't say that.
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I would look at rf7ii or rf7iii instead of rp280f. The 280s are nice but I dont know if I would call them a substantial upgrade over the older gen speakers, especially for movies. Music could be better but then I would look to the flagships again as an upgrade

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While I would agree, the size and price of rf7ii is quite a bit more than RP-280. In my space is it hard to justify the physical size.

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While I would agree, the size and price of rf7ii is quite a bit more than RP-280. In my space is it hard to justify the physical size.
Try find a used pair of rf7 or rf83

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I went with the RP-150M for my rears as they match the 250S on the side. I asked the same question earlier.
I would put them up about 5 to 7 feet. The sides should be just behind the head of the front row. Others might chime in with other suggestions.
Thank you very much for your reply! I hope some more people will have something to say.
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If you have rf7 now I doubt rf7iii will be a substantial upgrade. You have a lot of $$ to spend, if it were my money I would be looking at Klipsch or JBL pro gear, Seaton or JTR. Those meyer subs have a -4db point of 23hz, compared to the big boys in the sub game they are small fry. The processors you are looking at are end game material. Edit the subs will hit 130db so not to be sneezed at but in terms of extension especially on these forums they cant compete

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My room is solid concrete all around and with my single SubMersive, I don't feel any ultra-low frequency bass at all. As a result, I thought it would be better to forgo trying to get very low bass in my room and just go for 20 Hz+. I know Meyer Sound is definitely not popular on this forum like it is in the pro audio world/forums. Meyer Sound is used in quite a few high-end cinemas and mixing stages. The following quote is from a Meyer Sound news link/article relating to the company's entry into the residential private cinema market:

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The system in the demonstration room is typical of those used in many Hollywood sound-editing studios. Meyer Sound monitoring systems now are in use at, among many other facilities, Skywalker Sound, Pixar Animation, 20th Century Fox, Dreamworks and Warner Bros. Meyer Sound systems also are featured in premium screens by exhibitors like ArcLight Cinemas and Cinetopia, while several leading Hollywood directors and producers – who cannot be named because of non-disclosure agreements – have Meyer Sound systems at home.
Article: https://meyersound.com/news/private-cinema/

If those places use Meyer Sound, it should be good enough for me!

I've also heard that ported subwoofers provide a more tactile response/feel over sealed subwoofers.

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Anyone have the RP-150 or RP-160 in/near Oklahoma City?? Love to hear them before I order. If not, might order and see if I can compare to Chane A1.4 and RBH r5bi (my old setup)

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My room is solid concrete all around and with my single SubMersive, I don't feel any ultra-low frequency bass at all. As a result, I thought it would be better to forgo trying to get very low bass in my room and just go for 20 Hz+. I know Meyer Sound is definitely not popular on this forum like it is in the pro audio world/forums. Meyer Sound is used in quite a few high-end cinemas and mixing stages. The following quote is from a Meyer Sound news link/article relating to the company's entry into the residential private cinema market:

I've also heard that ported subwoofers provide a more tactile response/feel over sealed subwoofers.
If you want more feel at the seating you can look up Crowson Transducers. They go down to 1hz.

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If you want more feel at the seating you can look up Crowson Transducers. They go down to 1hz.
I'm not really into transducers. Don't like "fake" stuff.
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My room is solid concrete all around and with my single SubMersive, I don't feel any ultra-low frequency bass at all. As a result, I thought it would be better to forgo trying to get very low bass in my room and just go for 20 Hz+. I know Meyer Sound is definitely not popular on this forum like it is in the pro audio world/forums. Meyer Sound is used in quite a few high-end cinemas and mixing stages. The following quote is from a Meyer Sound news link/article relating to the company's entry into the residential private cinema market:



Article: https://meyersound.com/news/private-cinema/

If those places use Meyer Sound, it should be good enough for me!

I've also heard that ported subwoofers provide a more tactile response/feel over sealed subwoofers.
If you can afford the Meyer setup, then go for it. It will be like a commercial theater sound wise, which is not a bad thing except for lack of bass under 20hz.

If you're going the professional direction, have you taken a look at JBL cinema? I believe JBL is in more theaters than any other or maybe all others combined.

As for ported subs, yes they do provide more tactile feel. Not sure what the cost of the Meyer subs are, but you can probably get much more powerful ported subs from JTR or PSA for less.

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I'm not really into transducers. Don't like "fake" stuff.
Not sure what you mean by "fake" but there is a reason they exist. They are not meant to replace subs but work with your subs. Many "bass heads" that have 8+ subs in their theaters also have transducers for even more feel. The difference is they are not "one noted" sound like other bass shakers which only just shakes the couch. Crowsons are actually linear transducers which are different and actually lifts your seats and play true LFE notes and accepts LFE signal from your processor just like subs. They are kinda pricey but if you add more subs and you still need extra tactice response these will do the trick especially if you're on concrete slab. Another trick is just to build a small riser or lift your seats few inches from ground to get that extra tactile feel. You don't have to do it, was just an option since you mentioned you are not getting enough tactile response.

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If you can afford the Meyer setup, then go for it. It will be like a commercial theater sound wise, which is not a bad thing except for lack of bass under 20hz.

If you're going the professional direction, have you taken a look at JBL cinema? I believe JBL is in more theaters than any other or maybe all others combined.

As for ported subs, yes they do provide more tactile feel. Not sure what the cost of the Meyer subs are, but you can probably get much more powerful ported subs from JTR or PSA for less.
I have looked at JBL Pro stuff but based on the research I've done, it seems Meyer Sound stuff is a step up from the JBL Pro stuff.

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Not sure what you mean by "fake" but there is a reason they exist. They are not meant to replace subs but work with your subs. Many "bass heads" that have 8+ subs in their theaters also have transducers for even more feel. The difference is they are not "one noted" sound like other bass shakers which only just shakes the couch. Crowsons are actually linear transducers which are different and actually lifts your seats and play true LFE notes and accepts LFE signal from your processor just like subs. They are kinda pricey but if you add more subs and you still need extra tactice response these will do the trick especially if you're on concrete slab. Another trick is just to build a small riser or lift your seats few inches from ground to get that extra tactile feel. You don't have to do it, was just an option since you mentioned you are not getting enough tactile response.
By "fake" I meant artificial "sensations" (in terms of bass). I just want to feel what the subwoofers are providing instead of inducing feel/shack from other means.
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RP line and crossover

For the one owning the RP line speakers, how did you set up your crossover? (considering you have a good sub).
1) did you use your receiver calibration and left it there.
2) did you follow the "best practice" and set it up to 80.
3) did you change to something different.

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For the one owning the RP line speakers, how did you set up your crossover? (considering you have a good sub).
1) did you use your receiver calibration and left it there.
2) did you follow the "best practice" and set it up to 80.
3) did you change to something different.

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My speakers and gear is in signature. I am using all speakers at small with 80hz crossover. All bass signals is sent 80hz and below for movies and the LFE signal is 120hz and below. But I use my RP280s full range in music 2.0 only analog from player bypassing any processing on my prepro.

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i'm not too impressed with the 'high sensitivity'
loudness does not appear to be significantly higher than previous speakers i had (ascend340s). i'm listening to my usual -19 (although new is AVR marantz 1506) ... and actually seems to be less loud than i remember..
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i'm not too impressed with the 'high sensitivity'
loudness does not appear to be significantly higher than previous speakers i had (ascend340s). i'm listening to my usual -19 (although new is AVR marantz 1506) ... and actually seems to be less loud than i remember..
After calibration, -19db is -19db.

And the Ascends are pretty efficient.

And Klipsch overstates the efficiency of their speakers.

And auditory memory is fleeting.

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Not sure if someone pointed this out but the back surrounds should be monopoles from what I understand, so 160M is better.

Also it depends on how far away your side surrounds are from the MLP. If they are close to the listening position, the 250S is probably better, but I believe Atmos/X ideally should have all monopoles if you can get the side surrounds far enough away from MLP.

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So this is a hard one. I believe there was a noticeable difference, but that is up to each listener. For me the spend was not a huge deal as I was upgrading the receiver and subs as well. If money is real tight I don't know if I would say the spend is worth it. I like the improvements, but is it dramatic I can't say that.


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i'm not too impressed with the 'high sensitivity'
loudness does not appear to be significantly higher than previous speakers i had (ascend340s). i'm listening to my usual -19 (although new is AVR marantz 1506) ... and actually seems to be less loud than i remember..
Both the Klipsch and Ascends are high efficiency speakers and I doubt you can hear either one above reference levels without hurting your ears. So which sound better to you is the one you should be looking at. There is a guy @Theriddler07sms had very nice ascend system (Sierra line) and is now using Klipsch RP line and maybe he can give his opinion in better detail the differences between each in his situation.

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Not sure if someone pointed this out but the back surrounds should be monopoles from what I understand, so 160M is better.

Also it depends on how far away your side surrounds are from the MLP. If they are close to the listening position, the 250S is probably better, but I believe Atmos/X ideally should have all monopoles if you can get the side surrounds far enough away from MLP.
Yep, I'm aware of that. That is why I mentioned both options (I'm mainly looking at the bookshelf speakers for the side and back surrounds).
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I have looked at JBL Pro stuff but based on the research I've done, it seems Meyer Sound stuff is a step up from the JBL Pro stuff.



By "fake" I meant artificial "sensations" (in terms of bass). I just want to feel what the subwoofers are providing instead of inducing feel/shack from other means.
As the other posted said, transducers provide an experience which a room chock full of subs just simply can't do. That said, everything you're doing in a home theater experience is fake. You're watching a fake drama with actors playing pretend with hundreds of cuts to make it right, reproduced on speakers and subwoofers made by humans to create sensations. Transducers are just another notch. However, like speaker and subs, they can be implemented wrong and lessen the experience. This isn't usually the case however.
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i'm not too impressed with the 'high sensitivity'
loudness does not appear to be significantly higher than previous speakers i had (ascend340s). i'm listening to my usual -19 (although new is AVR marantz 1506) ... and actually seems to be less loud than i remember..
Are you using Audyseey? Did you re-run it?



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i ran audyssey because i though it would help with my dang room reflections/echoing but it did not help with that
audyssey on or off doesnt change the volume (dynamic eg/vol off - a marantz feature)
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i ran audyssey because i though it would help with my dang room reflections/echoing but it did not help with that
audyssey on or off doesnt change the volume (dynamic eg/vol off - a marantz feature)
For room reflections/echos you need room acoustic treatments.

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I recently picked up a r28f system for a crazy good price. I am powering it with a Denon x1300w. I think it sounds pretty good!

What are the pros to upgrading to the RP series? Maybe the RP260.

I live in an apartment and listening at reference levels is impossible. I got a warning from the office less than 48hrs of installing the system.
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I recently picked up a r28f system for a crazy good price. I am powering it with a Denon x1300w. I think it sounds pretty good!

What are the pros to upgrading to the RP series? Maybe the RP260.

I live in an apartment and listening at reference levels is impossible. I got a warning from the office less than 48hrs of installing the system.
From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

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i ran audyssey because i though it would help with my dang room reflections/echoing but it did not help with that
audyssey on or off doesnt change the volume (dynamic eg/vol off - a marantz feature)
Audyssey changes channel gain, and simply turning it on and off keeps the channel volume settings as they were. Also, filtering in audyssey can cause a slight change in volume with different speakers. I'm not refering to dynamic volume/EQ at all, which is an Audyssey feature, not Marantz per se.



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I recently picked up a r28f system for a crazy good price. I am powering it with a Denon x1300w. I think it sounds pretty good!

What are the pros to upgrading to the RP series? Maybe the RP260.

I live in an apartment and listening at reference levels is impossible. I got a warning from the office less than 48hrs of installing the system.
From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

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I appreciate that reply and your choice of music. I would not be able to give rear ported speakers proper clearance anyways.
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From my recent experience (read back a few pages) --- NOTHING.

It was especially tragic after going through all of the return process then buying a pair of the RF82 IIs and getting them home and then having to put them out in the damn room so they had enough space behind them for the ports, and then having a more harsh sounding high end (okay, so break them in yada yada...) and the mids didn't sound as nice, but of course they are crossed over at a different frequency... on and on. Then boxing those up and returning them and driving back to best buy to get back my original pair of R28Fs since I know they were perfect. What a freaking nightmare, and it was worse because I have PTSD.

So happy I got back my R28Fs. Great rock & roll and home theater speakers. And you can shove them all the way up to the wall too, as it's front ported. I cranked up fleetwood mac rumours and was in heaven, sounds so good. Excellent bass and mids. Great sounding vocals. perfect classic rock, R&B, and home theater speaker. Love it.

The R28Fs are great sounding speakers, don't let the naysayers pooh pooh because they're not top of the line.

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Sorry you went through all that, but glad to hear you ended up with something that makes you happy--fundamentally, that should be all that any of us are really seeking, regardless of the gear we choose.

That Fleetwood Mac is good stuff. Enjoy!
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RP 280
i'm not too impressed with the 'high sensitivity'
loudness does not appear to be significantly higher than previous speakers i had (ascend340s). i'm listening to my usual -19 (although new is AVR marantz 1506) ... and actually seems to be less loud than i remember..
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Both the Klipsch and Ascends are high efficiency speakers and I doubt you can hear either one above reference levels without hurting your ears. So which sound better to you is the one you should be looking at. There is a guy @Theriddler07sms had very nice ascend system (Sierra line) and is now using Klipsch RP line and maybe he can give his opinion in better detail the differences between each in his situation.
I had the Sierra 2's, Sierra 1's, and a Sierra Horizon. I now have Klipsch 160m, 240s, and a 440c. The Sierra were better for music than the Klipsch line but for movies I cant tell a difference. I understand where you are coming from with them being less loud at same listening level.

The Klipsch are high sensitivity so they play louder. When I would run audessey on my Sierras it would place them at around -1 to -2 db, the Klipsch are around -6 to -8. I had to turn up my Klipsch to around -3 to -4 on the receiver to have same listening level at similar volume setting.

After everything, I am very satisfied with my Klipsch and am currently looing at on-ceiling option for atmos speakers.
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