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Seems the Jubilee is a much more simple build. The sound travels on the same plane throughout the process instead of two planes. (sound comes out and bends around to the front whereas, if I recall correctly with the Khorn, the sound first goes UP, then changes direction to sideways and then comes out)

I didn't know you weren't 'domestic'. No, they don't use the same parts.... the Jubilee uses the 12" K31 driver (actually it uses a pair of them per cabinet) unlike the Khorn which uses a single K33, 15" driver.

One of the design goals for the bass bin is/was to raise the crossover point so it could be taken back to a 2-way.

You could always use the LaScala top end until you got the chance to buy a pair of K510's or (the best choice) the K402.

The "JubeScala" is the large K02 horn atop the LaScala bass bin.... if the stock LaScala will make you happy, the K402 on top will still drop your jaw to the floor.

That said, there are certainly some realities you have to deal with... if you could find a Klipsch Cinema dealer somewhere, you might have better access than you think. (then again, I don't really know).

Was just trying to throw some ideas out for you while you are in the investigation stage.
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Does that work as a tweeter and midrange?
Yes. This is why the coherency is a lot better....you're totally losing a crossover point. AND, the sound "comes together" much closer to the speaker so you can have it sound better in a smaller room!!

For the Jubilee, the K402 (with the K69 driver which has recently been replaced so I don't know the current values)

Anyway, for the Jubilee with the K402/K69, it's crossed at 380Hz and the K402 goes from 380 on up.

For the JubeScala with the K402/K69, it's crossed at 470Hz and goes from there on up.

The horn is a 2" throat so is using a large format driver. I think the diaphragm on these drivers is three or maybe four inches (I don't know)

Having heard them and owned them for 11 years, all I can say is trust me....that's not crossing too low for a "tweeter driver" (which is how the K69 is used on the 3-way Jubilee)

It will run you out of the room with volume before it gives out.
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Am I the only one with the above problem or are there more members with a failed R115?
sounds like the amp inside the 115 is failing.
I just bought a 115 2 weeks ago and thinking of getting another one. This doesn't sound good and hoping its just an isolated issue. Did you call Klipsch Tech support to trouble shoot?

They are VERY helpful and can help diagnose it over the phone:
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sounds like the amp inside the 115 is failing.

I just bought a 115 2 weeks ago and thinking of getting another one. This doesn't sound good and hoping its just an isolated issue. Did you call Klipsch Tech support to trouble shoot?



They are VERY helpful and can help diagnose it over the phone:

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Thank you for your response. I didn't call them but I have opened a ticket with them. I live in holland and bought the sub from my local dealer. He will pick up the sub and send it to the repair department as it's still in its warranty.

I emailed Klipsch because I've paid a lot of money for the reference premiere line including 4 RP280's. this sub was bought 13 months ago brand new. I told them that I would rather have a new one than this unit that gets repaired.

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I went with RF-62s, exchanged with RF-82s, then a couple years later went to RF-7s. Addicting after you hear how good sound can get. The RF-7s are in a league of their own in the reference/reference premiere line ups. There a reason why Klipsch still hasn't retired them. Speaker technology really hasn't changed much. The RF-7s are better overall than anything in the newer reference premiere lineup, but that's a given since they are also much more expensive.

They are coming out with the RF-7 III later this year. not sure if it's really worth the extra $$$
Singe RF-7 II are literally selling 2 for the price of one.

So from what I gather, going to RF-7 from RF82 is a substantial difference?
There are no stores with the rf-7 to test out.

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So from what I gather, going to RF-7 from RF82 is a substantial difference?
There are no stores with the rf-7 to test out.
I would say yes but agree you want to keep your eye out for the appropriate Center Channel. Fwiw, I have had RF-7s for well over a dozen years.
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They are coming out with the RF-7 III later this year. not sure if it's really worth the extra $$$
Singe RF-7 II are literally selling 2 for the price of one.

So from what I gather, going to RF-7 from RF82 is a substantial difference?
There are no stores with the rf-7 to test out.
Get the RF-7 II and save the $$. I purchased a used pair of the first series RF-7 and wish I had not sold them. My friend later purchased a second pair of RF-7 and got a used pair of the II's. There is not much difference in the sound in his large room IMHO. I am not a "Golden Ear" but to me I would look for used or NOS RF7-II and save the extra $$.

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Glad it all worked out, very nice system.
thank you everyday i fallow more in love from thew sound that come out of this speakers
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Planning to replace my center channel with a floorstander.

Finally getting my dedicated home theater room setup. Got some suggestions to make L, C, R channels have same speakers.
I have RP280F as L and R channels and RP450C as center.
Replacing my RP450C with another RP280F.

Hope thats a good move for a dedicated home theater

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Has anyone actually listened to a pair of the new Forte III speakers?

Was thinking about replacing a pair of upgraded Quartets, wondering if it would be enough of an upgrade to justify the cost.

Not seeing any reviews. Thought there'd be more buzz by now.
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Planning to replace my center channel with a floorstander.

Finally getting my dedicated home theater room setup. Got some suggestions to make L, C, R channels have same speakers.
I have RP280F as L and R channels and RP450C as center.
Replacing my RP450C with another RP280F.

Hope thats a good move for a dedicated home theater

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Tell me, how do you like your setup as is now? That is the exact LCR I am planning to get, running a 3.1 setup (or maybe the 280FA for 3.1.2). Also, what are you using for an AVR/AMP for them. Thank you in advance.
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This is a dangerous question, but how does everyone feel about two R-115SW subs instead of just one for my 280 system? I'd place each 15" sub in the front corners next to the front RP-280 towers.

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Tell me, how do you like your setup as is now? That is the exact LCR I am planning to get, running a 3.1 setup (or maybe the 280FA for 3.1.2). Also, what are you using for an AVR/AMP for them. Thank you in advance.
The setup as is very good ( RP280F for L and R, RP450C for center), really good, no second thoughts go for it.
Its good for my existing setup where I dont have room for floorstander as center channel.
Since am moving to my own new home, where I made sure to have a dedicated home theater room, there is room to make a floorstander as center channel, got a lot of suggestions to replace my RP450C with another RP280F.
I used my speakers with Denon X4000 AVR.
The new setup will be with pre-amp and poweramps.
You can check my build thread, link in my signature

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Yes. This is why the coherency is a lot better....you're totally losing a crossover point. AND, the sound "comes together" much closer to the speaker so you can have it sound better in a smaller room!!

For the Jubilee, the K402 (with the K69 driver which has recently been replaced so I don't know the current values)

Anyway, for the Jubilee with the K402/K69, it's crossed at 380Hz and the K402 goes from 380 on up.

For the JubeScala with the K402/K69, it's crossed at 470Hz and goes from there on up.

The horn is a 2" throat so is using a large format driver. I think the diaphragm on these drivers is three or maybe four inches (I don't know)

Having heard them and owned them for 11 years, all I can say is trust me....that's not crossing too low for a "tweeter driver" (which is how the K69 is used on the 3-way Jubilee)

It will run you out of the room with volume before it gives out.
Wow, that seems like quite the project! I do however think it's a bit too complex for me at the moment.. a pair of klipschhorns might be a better idea for the moment as I'll be moving quite a bit over the next 10-20 years before I settle. If I ever have the place for a dedicated home theatre I might just make me a pair of jubes.
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PS random question, does anybody have an idea what the prices are for the pro speakers from klipsch? I see a catalogue on their site, but no prices. Just wondering, not really planning on buying them.

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This is a dangerous question, but how does everyone feel about two R-115SW subs instead of just one for my 280 system? I'd place each 15" sub in the front corners next to the front RP-280 towers.
I'd say neither,

Put that money towards a subwoofer from an ID brand like HSU, SVS, Emotiva, etc.

The subs Klipsch makes are very little value compared to the above in terms of $$$, and the amps are known to just randomly fail at any moment.

Electronics they use in the Subs is just chancy, your unit either has an issue or it doesn't. You'll find plenty of people who never had their amp fail, but also plenty of people who did. Not worth chancing for the amount of money you'll be spending. In my case, the sub was working perfectly fine, I turned it off to go do something, came back a few minutes later and flipped the switch and it never turned on again.
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Can you please update me how the 450c sounds in comparison, and any general sound quality differences? 450c is said to be louder, but im not really concerned with volume.

I paid $180 for my used like-new 250c, and I would be looking at around $450 for a rp-450c. It's over double the price, so I would like to know if it's really twice as good.

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I've had the 450C for a few days now. Still playing with the settings. My initial impression is that the 450C is a huge upgrade over my 250C, especially since my listening space is so big. With the 250C, I was constantly turning the center volume up and the rest of the speakers down, in order to hear dialogue. I have actually turned the 450C down 1 db from the initial YPAO setting in order to give the rest of the system more balance. It's not just volume. The overall sound is much more full and deeper now. There is so much more than dialogue coming from the center. Dialogue is not just louder, it's more clear. Plus, my AVR is working less, as I am not turning the volume up as high to watch programs. It's early, but I am very happy with the new center so far.

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Just to clarify, I am not saying the 250C is a bad center. I just think it was too small for my room. I have an open floor plan to nearly the entire 1st floor, plus the 2nd story loft and 18 ft cathedral ceilings. A lot of the sound goes up to the 2nd floor. If I had an enclosed room, with normal 8 ft ceilings, it would likely never have been replaced.

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Just to clarify, I am not saying the 250C is a bad center. I just think it was too small for my room. I have an open floor plan to nearly the entire 1st floor, plus the 2nd story loft and 18 ft cathedral ceilings. A lot of the sound goes up to the 2nd floor. If I had an enclosed room, with normal 8 ft ceilings, it would likely never have been replaced.
Thanks for the update, glad you like the 450c!
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I'm looking to buy a pair of RP 280F's (MSRP $1200 for pair) and RP 450c (MSRP $650). Where is the best place to buy (authorized dealer) and what type of discount should I be expecting?
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Dumb question:
I am using Marantz SR 6011 with Klipsch RP-280F (pair) and RP-450C (so 3.0). I tried with and without Audyssey. No matter what I do, the bass is really weak in this setup (even after turning Audyssey off and manual turning the low frequency to the highest level possible in Marantz). The lowest frequency setting in Marantz EQ is only 63 Hz. The sound is very clear and natural, which I like. However the bass is very weak.
Is this normal? I thought that RP-280F has two woofers so I might be okay without a subwoofer. Or am I being unrealistic and the only possible way to get good bass is with a subwoofer? Is it possible that either the receiver or speaker has a defect? I doubt since overall sound is very clear, all I am missing is the bass.

I use it for 90% music.

Appreciate your help and input. Thanks!
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Dumb question:
I am using Marantz SR 6011 with Klipsch RP-280F (pair) and RP-450C (so 3.0). I tried with and without Audyssey. No matter what I do, the bass is really weak in this setup (even after turning Audyssey off and manual turning the low frequency to the highest level possible in Marantz). The lowest frequency setting in Marantz EQ is only 63 Hz. The sound is very clear and natural, which I like. However the bass is very weak.
Is this normal? I thought that RP-280F has two woofers so I might be okay without a subwoofer. Or am I being unrealistic and the only possible way to get good bass is with a subwoofer? Is it possible that either the receiver or speaker has a defect? I doubt since overall sound is very clear, all I am missing is the bass.

I use it for 90% music.

Appreciate your help and input. Thanks!
hi ,try turning on audesey and use dynamic eq to light ..60 hz is a great start to get that deep bass ...make sure ur using all channel stereo as the bass is more pronounced as oppose to stereo .
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Dumb question:
I am using Marantz SR 6011 with Klipsch RP-280F (pair) and RP-450C (so 3.0). I tried with and without Audyssey. No matter what I do, the bass is really weak in this setup (even after turning Audyssey off and manual turning the low frequency to the highest level possible in Marantz). The lowest frequency setting in Marantz EQ is only 63 Hz. The sound is very clear and natural, which I like. However the bass is very weak.
Is this normal? I thought that RP-280F has two woofers so I might be okay without a subwoofer. Or am I being unrealistic and the only possible way to get good bass is with a subwoofer? Is it possible that either the receiver or speaker has a defect? I doubt since overall sound is very clear, all I am missing is the bass.

I use it for 90% music.

Appreciate your help and input. Thanks!
Keep XT32 on and switch it over to L&R bypass should help you for music and video
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I am not sure what you mean by "turning the low frequency to the highest possible setting." But if you don't have a subwoofer, you should not be using using a crossover frequency at all. Ensure that the 280s are set to large, not small. That seething will send a full range signal to the speakers, bass frequencies and all. That should solve most, if not all of the issues you are experiencing.
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Klipsch RP-250S

Hello,

​Do the Klipsch RP-250S surround speakers need to be installed on wall or maybe they can be put on stand?

​Due to the layout of my apartment, the left side surround speaker will be wall-mounted but the right side surround speaker needs to be installed on a stand.

​I'm afraid that it is going to sound bad, because the side surround speakers are going to sound different from each other due to the way they are installed
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Hello,

​Do the Klipsch RP-250S surround speakers need to be installed on wall or maybe they can be put on stand?

​Due to the layout of my apartment, the left side surround speaker will be wall-mounted but the right side surround speaker needs to be installed on a stand.

​I'm afraid that it is going to sound bad, because the side surround speakers are going to sound different from each other due to the way they are installed
Every room has it's issues........... if possible mount the side speaker that is going to be on wall at the same height of the other sides speaker stand. If not possible (looks bad to wife ) then the wall speaker if higher needs to be aimed down at your ear. Sides are recommended to be at ear level and equal distance on each side,somewhat like like head phones. I have my rears wall mounted near the ceiling and aimed down and toed IN (like my fronts) towards the back of my head. My room has issues too...... post up how it sounds, try moving them around some before you mount them.

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Should i use floor standing speakers LR (RP-250F) in the rear or go with in-wall Klipsch (R-5800-W II) speakers? My room is 22.5 x 14 x 9. If there is not much difference in sound quality i would go with in-wall. I am planning for floor standing (RP-280F) for front LR and Center as (RP-450C).

Can we use Atmos speakers in-ceiling (or) is it a bad idea? I am planning for 5.1.2.

I did read 5.1.2 setup from Dolby website to get some ideas.
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Picked up a pair of 280fa's at a local retailer for 696 per speaker. Was in the market for some new fronts and been searching around watching prices. Jumped on this deal as it was for brand new in box, set of black veneers (last ones). They also had the floor demos (walnut) for sale as well, 519 per speaker. That's a great deal if you don't mind some nicks and dings in the drivers. Walnut is a very nice color, just feels warm.
Got them integrated with the rest of my system and they are really clear and can go loud if you want. I agree with the AVS review as they are very nice fronts. They barley passed the WAF as they are rather large. She even helped carry them in for me, go figure. I did explain to her that this is a "living room" meaning that setups can come and go and nothing is permanent,....with a smirk on my face. I think she is just happy to get the points on her CC so she can get her companion pass from SW, lol
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Every room has it's issues........... if possible mount the side speaker that is going to be on wall at the same height of the other sides speaker stand. If not possible (looks bad to wife ) then the wall speaker if higher needs to be aimed down at your ear. Sides are recommended to be at ear level and equal distance on each side,somewhat like like head phones. I have my rears wall mounted near the ceiling and aimed down and toed IN (like my fronts) towards the back of my head. My room has issues too...... post up how it sounds, try moving them around some before you mount them.
Thanks for the reply.

I also got one from Klipsch support:

"With those, they can be used either way. Hung on a wall, or sat on a stand. It will not negatively effect the sound of the speaker either way.

I hope that information helps."


Take care
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