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I believe it was more than just a cosmetic change, a lot of engineering went into the RF7llls. The port system is different. Other than the engineers, the only person I've heard of that has listened to the 2s and 3s is Cory at MetropolisSoundOutfitters, he says the 3s are more laid back, and less in your face than the 2s. He is on the Klipsch forum, and also a registered Klipsch distributor. He also picked the RFlll over the new Forte lll.
He very well may believe that, but I also imagine if he preferred the RF-7IIs he would keep it to himself given he sells new speakers....Just sayin'.

That said, I bet the RF-7IIIs sound excellent as well.
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So assuming my back surrounds are too close to be worth using, I still wanna utilize my 9 channels. Would getting rear atmos instead then be the next best thing? My ceiling can't do ceiling speakers so it has to be atmos enabled such as the rp140sa I got for the atmos front. How do I mount / implement speakers like that if I've got no back surround to put them on top of?
You put them on a shelf, or really tall stand. Their placement is rather forgiving within reason. If you read the Dolby papers available it will explain all the recommended placements. I would start with a height of 1-2ft. above your seated ear height, and around 155 degrees of the MLP. That assumes you have a 8-9ft. ceiling.

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Fwiw, one just needs to look at this thread to see that every new generation of Klipsch speakers is described as being not as "bright" as the previous generation. In fact, that has been the main complaint about Klipsch Speakers for as long as I've known of the brand.
Touche! It's a common perception of the brand for some. Perhaps the "improvement" of each generation over the previous is a marketing effort to counter the perception. Real or not, perception is everything! Bottom line, I'm keeping mine!

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Touche! It's a common perception of the brand for some. Perhaps the "improvement" of each generation over the previous is a marketing effort to counter the perception. Real or not, perception is everything! Bottom line, I'm keeping mine!
Yep. Otoh, I DO believe the RF-83/RC-64 was designed to be 'warmer," (and are really nice speakers) but they didn't go over so well and Klipsch brought back the RF-7s (Classic and then the IIs) in response.{Note: My speculation}
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By no means am I attempting to offend anyone. As I have both, when one transitions from <100" to >100", the world of TV is left behind...and a new experience in the world of immersive entertainment awaits you.



It's generally acknowledged that "in ceiling/on ceiling" provides the most accurate 3D sound effects (object placement). However, Dolby Atmos Enabled Speakers (DAES) were designed to provide an alternative for those that are unwilling or unable to install in/on ceilings...i.e. structure prohibitive, hesitancy/reluctancy to cut holes, apartment living, WAF, etc. I personally have installed six (6) in ceiling 8" speakers for TF, TM, and TR in anticipation of reasonably priced accommodating hardware/software...i.e. the upcoming Denon X8500H or similar rather than Trinnov or Datasat. You'll find that you'll have decisions to make relative to speaker selection and speaker placement/location. After reading through some of the "What's the best speaker for Atmos" threads, you still may be undecided because the responses runs a wide gamut. The best advice I can offer is to not overthink it and plan to experiment a bit in your own environment. One size does not fit all here and there is a lot of latitude for effective and immersive 3D sound.
Thanks for the tips! I'm definitely looking at in-ceiling speakers for my setup. I was looking at the Klipsch CDT-3800-C II. I'm relatively uninformed when it comes to Atmos. I need to pop into the Atmos forums and start reading up more.

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Thanks for the tips! I'm definitely looking at in-ceiling speakers for my setup. I was looking at the Klipsch CDT-3800-C II. I'm relatively uninformed when it comes to Atmos. I need to pop into the Atmos forums and start reading up more.
There's plenty of advice on the topic in these threads for you to puruse. Among them are satisfied owners of the CDT-5800-C II's. These were my original choice as well...as the initial objective/concern/goal for most is to match Atmos speakers to their mains WRT to quality, timbre, dispersion, FR, etc. etc. After a lengthy experimentation period in my HT almost 2 years ago, I discovered/concluded that the demands for Atmos duty were not that demanding. The end result was very surprising for me. Below is one of my recent post but YMMV.

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As for the projector, that is what I'm most excited about!
Hopefully, we're not getting too OT here but the initial decision for 4K projectors (PJ's) will be pseudo 4K (<$3K) or true 4K ($5K+). Once the budget is decided, then it's a matter of the features and adherence to current technology offerings...i.e. HDR specifications. There are threads dedicated to the leading PJ manufacturers...BenQ, Epson, JVC, Optima, and Sony. Should you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me.

Note Don't let the pseudo 4K projectors deter you. They throw an incredible image (beautiful color and image sharpness) and upscale 1080 blu-rays to 4K wonderfully.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program!
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He very well may believe that, but I also imagine if he preferred the RF-7IIs he would keep it to himself given he sells new speakers....Just sayin'.

That said, I bet the RF-7IIIs sound excellent as well.
I know what you mean, he is in the speaker business. He did the RF7lls also. I just noticed a little extra enthusiasm when he spoke about the new series.
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I know what you mean, he is in the speaker business. He did the RF7lls also. I just noticed a little extra enthusiasm when he spoke about the new series.

I am not trying to dissuade anyone from considering the RF-7IIIs/RC-64III and imagine they at least sound every bit as good as previous generations. That said, this is the internet so beware of folks claiming that they've heard both and one is decisively better than the other....Otoh, if enough folks make that claim I may have to go re-audition!
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Would you say that the new RFIII sound is more like the RF2 or more like RP280? I do understand it could be mix of RF2 10 inch drivers with RP series horn but bigger? I don't see a reason to upgrade from my RP series speakers cause they sound so good....but you always wonder!
They are like the RP line from what I've heard. Horn is much more laid back.
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I believe it was more than just a cosmetic change, a lot of engineering went into the RF7llls. The port system is different. Other than the engineers, the only person I've heard of that has listened to the 2s and 3s is Cory at MetropolisSoundOutfitters, he says the 3s are more laid back, and less in your face than the 2s. He is on the Klipsch forum, and also a registered Klipsch distributor. He also picked the RFlll over the new Forte lll.
I like "in my face" sound. So I'm glad to hear this as I just invested in the RF-7 II. I do like the design of the RF-7 III though. Especially the woodgrain color mixed with the black fronts. Very nice design with the grill off. But the grill cover material is worse. I like the silky black fabric of the II series.
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I am not trying to dissuade anyone from considering the RF-7IIIs/RC-64III and imagine they at least sound every bit as good as previous generations. That said, this is the internet so beware of folks claiming that they've heard both and one is decisively better than the other....Otoh, if enough folks make that claim I may have to go re-audition!
Did you read any of Metro's opinions about the RF7lll on the Klipsch site?
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Did you read any of Metro's opinions about the RF7lll on the Klipsch site?
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He compared the RF7ll, RF7lll, and the new Forte lll.
Can you provide a link to the post/thread?

Edit: Nevermind, I found it.
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There's plenty of advice on the topic in these threads for you to puruse. Among them are satisfied owners of the CDT-5800-C II's. These were my original choice as well...as the initial objective/concern/goal for most is to match Atmos speakers to their mains WRT to quality, timbre, dispersion, FR, etc. etc. After a lengthy experimentation period in my HT almost 2 years ago, I discovered/concluded that the demands for Atmos duty were not that demanding. The end result was very surprising for me. Below is one of my recent post but YMMV.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-spe...l#post55361608



Hopefully, we're not getting too OT here but the initial decision for 4K projectors (PJ's) will be pseudo 4K (<$3K) or true 4K ($5K+). Once the budget is decided, then it's a matter of the features and adherence to current technology offerings...i.e. HDR specifications. There are threads dedicated to the leading PJ manufacturers...BenQ, Epson, JVC, Optima, and Sony. Should you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me.

Note Don't let the pseudo 4K projectors deter you. They throw an incredible image (beautiful color and image sharpness) and upscale 1080 blu-rays to 4K wonderfully.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program!
Thanks, Gene! I will certainly be reaching out to you. Your point on the overhead speakers is spot on and something I hadn’t considered. After seeing that, I was on Emotiva’s webpage and they have a new 9 channel amp that has 5 300 amp channels and 4 65 watt channels (specifically for the overheads). I originally planned to put them on 200 watt per channel, lol! As my father-in-law would say, “you big dummy!”
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Hi, apologies if this has been covered somewhere in here but I'm trying to decide between the Sony STR-DN1080 and the Denon AVR-X2400H. I will be starting my 7.1 system with a pair of the RP-280F floor standers (my search for KLF30's is a dead end...!) and expand from there. Both receivers meet all my needs for functionality, my concern is sound and power for the speakers. These will be used for almost a straight split of movie/TV use and music. Does anyone have a recommendation either way? I'm open to other models (receivers) as well, my budget is around $600 at the moment.

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Hi, apologies if this has been covered somewhere in here but I'm trying to decide between the Sony STR-DN1080 and the Denon AVR-X2400H. I will be starting my 7.1 system with a pair of the RP-280F floor standers (my search for KLF30's is a dead end...!) and expand from there. Both receivers meet all my needs for functionality, my concern is sound and power for the speakers. These will be used for almost a straight split of movie/TV use and music. Does anyone have a recommendation either way? I'm open to other models (receivers) as well, my budget is around $600 at the moment.
Have you looked on the Klipsch forum for KLF30s? They do come up every now and then. Very good speakers, the RP280s are well regarded also.
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Have you looked on the Klipsch forum for KLF30s? They do come up every now and then. Very good speakers, the RP280s are well regarded also.
Thanks, I try to check every now and then, seems they're always on the other side of the country from me and no one wants to ship!
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Anyone have any favorite opening or ending credits songs on your klipsch? I really like to pump up the volume if it's got really good vocals. It sounds so good and clear. The opening that takes place after the opening act in Skyfall is incredible. And the ending credits for Catching Fire has really great vocals. I'm so tired of waiting for that supposed Wicked movie that's been in planning for so long. I wanna hear THAT music on my klipsch.
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My RP-150M came with small base stands around the bottom. Those are removable, right? Also, would it be possible to reverse them so the angle is down-firing?
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Here's an opinion on the new RF7llls from a dealer.....https://community.klipsch.com/index....ver-its-worth/
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Thanks for posting Metro's review! Appearance, cosmetics, and sound signature are all subjective. I personally prefer "all that wood" rather than the new all black front face. And the copper against the cherry finish appeal to me. I also completely understand the need to differentiate the III's from the II's...particularly from a marketing perspective. Speakers are primarily about SQ and signature so it really comes down to personal preference after formal and proper listening. And adjectives like "very significant" are only useful/valid relative to what one likes or dislikes. For me, I will absolutely give the III's a listen to understand if they are warm and "laid back" vs "forward." As I'm primarily an 80/20 HT vs music enthusiast, I prefer a more forward sounding speaker. All in all, a very nice write up...thanks again!
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I already own the 7II's. I paid 1300 for the pair in mint condition. I can't justify paying a grand or more after selling mine and jumping into the 7III's for a more laid back sound. It really makes no sense to me at this point in the game to spend all that for basically a lateral move at best. The 7II's will be with me for a very long time or until I have enough cash to jump into the Pro Line of Klipsch. That's where Klipsch keeps all it's precious gems.

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I already own the 7II's. I paid 1300 for the pair in mint condition. I can't justify paying a grand or more after selling mine and jumping into the 7III's for a more laid back sound. It really makes no sense to me at this point in the game to spend all that for basically a lateral move at best. The 7II's will be with me for a very long time or until I have enough cash to jump into the Pro Line of Klipsch. That's where Klipsch keeps all it's precious gems.
It's probably a given that "most" current owners of the 7 II's will share your position. IMO, for current 7 II owners at least, the two factors entering into the decision are sound signature and cost. WRT to SQ and cost notwithstanding, one would definitely have to favor the "laid back" sound. And as incentives relative to cost, Klipsch would have to offer/adopt a business model similar to SVS whereby a trade in and repeat customer program would offset the cost differential. Otherwise, it's likely the 7 III's will appeal most to those are upgrading from 62's, 82's, etc. and those coming from other brands. But I suspect the marketing folks have gone through this exercise.
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I already own the 7II's. I paid 1300 for the pair in mint condition. I can't justify paying a grand or more after selling mine and jumping into the 7III's for a more laid back sound. It really makes no sense to me at this point in the game to spend all that for basically a lateral move at best. The 7II's will be with me for a very long time or until I have enough cash to jump into the Pro Line of Klipsch. That's where Klipsch keeps all it's precious gems.
I agree 100%. Few guys here including @gene4ht and myself pay almost same $$$ for new set if we minus center.
I’m really happy with them and same here no reason to get new line. If I will shop now I will consider RF-7lll’s but also $$$ factor on good deal of RF-7ll’s can talk to me more to get RF-7ll’s.
So what I will do is keeping my speakers and when I listen my RF-7ll’s I will laid back little more to get feeling of RF-7III’s 😁👍.
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Whole state stopped working due snow( never saw that much here in Charleston). Good time to watch some movies and make sure Klipsch didn’t freeze up ❄️⛄️😂.
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Whole state stopped working due snow( never saw that much here in Charleston). Good time to watch some movies and make sure Klipsch didn’t freeze up ❄️⛄️😂.
Wow....this is almost unheard of in Charleston, SC. At least it will keep you inside to enjoy your system more.
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