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It will hold the weight but you MUST LAG bolt into wall studs. I was going to use one too but.......

My wall studs did NOT line up where I wanted them mounted and not having a flat surface would NOT allow me to raise the rear of the speaker up.
I could have cut a 3/4" plywood and made a shelf to lay on the "L" brackets you are looking at. I did not want to wait on shipping so I spent less ten 10 bucks to DIY one. I had the 3/4" MDF so I needed rattle can paint and 4 lag bolts and large body washers and some sand paper and a hour of my time.

But if you are mounting under the TV go for it and don't worry if the two "L" braces are not evenly spaced under the RC-64.Most people won't notice they are watching the movie. :-)

I added a extra 3/4"X 6" wide back board to my shelf and drilled 3/4" holes every few inches so I could find two studs to mount in the center with after I measured with stud finder where the studs are in the wall. I can't see the shelf or the board against the wall.
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got my rc-64iii today, this speaker is massive, anyone have an idea on how to wall mount it?
As @Louis Bartay indicated...a couple of brackets secured into studs and a shelf did the trick for me. Both brackets and black shelf (12"x36") are from Menards for about $18. I wanted a shelf vs just brackets alone to properly elevate the speaker using the screw foot. I lighted the area for the photo. Under normal lighting, the brackets and shelf blend into the black background and all but disappear.

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Not knowing how handy you are....but if you need a stud somewhere, you can "always" (hahahahaha) open the wall up, insert one, close wall (replace drywall, tape/mud then paint) and have it where you want it.

Don't pooh pooh the idea too much as I know someone (cough....my wife....cough....) who's done just that on more than one occasion!

She happens to be very good fixing the drywall (after I reinstall it) so I understand it's an effort. But it can allow you to put exactly what you want, where you want it.

oops....gotta go.... I think I hear the wife removing the bathroom wall......
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Not knowing how handy you are....but if you need a stud somewhere, you can "always" (hahahahaha) open the wall up, insert one, close wall (replace drywall, tape/mud then paint) and have it where you want it.

Don't pooh pooh the idea too much as I know someone (cough....my wife....cough....) who's done just that on more than one occasion!

She happens to be very good fixing the drywall (after I reinstall it) so I understand it's an effort. But it can allow you to put exactly what you want, where you want it.

oops....gotta go.... I think I hear the wife removing the bathroom wall......
Excellent tip/suggestion!

I recall you posting in the past about your wife's excellent drywall skills. It's admirable and fortunate that someone in the household has both the interest and the desire to develop the skills. Over the years, after raising three kids and various remodeling projects, I too can repair drywall without too much effort. In reality, it's not too difficult to tape/mud/paint...just takes a little practice and it will become an art. Please pass on my commendations to your wife!
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As @Louis Bartay indicated...a couple of brackets secured into studs and a shelf did the trick for me. Both brackets and black shelf (12"x36") are from Menards for about $18. I wanted a shelf vs just brackets alone to properly elevate the speaker using the screw foot. I lighted the area for the photo. Under normal lighting, the brackets and shelf blend into the black background and all but disappear.

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I'm surprised as heavy that center is that one screw holds it well.
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Not knowing how handy you are....but if you need a stud somewhere, you can "always" (hahahahaha) open the wall up, insert one, close wall (replace drywall, tape/mud then paint) and have it where you want it.

Don't pooh pooh the idea too much as I know someone (cough....my wife....cough....) who's done just that on more than one occasion!

She happens to be very good fixing the drywall (after I reinstall it) so I understand it's an effort. But it can allow you to put exactly what you want, where you want it.

oops....gotta go.... I think I hear the wife removing the bathroom wall......
I read on the old Klipsch Forum a French Cleat is a option to think about for hanging a shelf for a 40 pound speaker. A lot of heavy kitchen cabinets are mounted with a French cleat.

Dry wall repair is doable but matching the finish and color of paint can be a challenge most of us avoid.I wish my wife had that talent/skill to finish after I tape and bed the seams my garage would be father along for my music room. I can't match the wall finish it look perfect without doing a whole section.
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I'm surprised as heavy that center is that one screw holds it well.
I used four, two 4" apart on each stud thru the back board or in your case I would use two screws on each L bracket. I did not look to see how many were on that link.
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I'm surprised as heavy that center is that one screw holds it well.
Agreed...and offset at that...no one more surprised than me. It hasn't move so much as a mm in two years. Klipsch apparently knew the capability of their design.

Edit: I assumed you were referring to the adjustment screw on the speaker. If you were referring to the "L" brackets, there are two screws in each bracket securing it to the stud behind.
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I used four, two 4" apart on each stud thru the back board or in your case I would use two screws on each L bracket. I did not look to see how many were on that link.
I have my RP450 center on sanus speaker stand. It has 2 screws on the ends of the stands for angling....works quite well.

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Lots of great advice from everyone. Those brackets would work fine, and are adjustable so you can hit the studs. I think I would install a wood shelf on the brackets. It will lock everything together, give you more adjustability, and still look good. Is your center going below your TV, and aiming pretty straight forward? I assume the 64lll has adjustable spikes? That's an awesome speaker. Curious....what are your mains?
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I read on the old Klipsch Forum a French Cleat is a option to think about for hanging a shelf for a 40 pound speaker. A lot of heavy kitchen cabinets are mounted with a French cleat.

Dry wall repair is doable but matching the finish and color of paint can be a challenge most of us avoid.I wish my wife had that talent/skill to finish after I tape and bed the seams my garage would be father along for my music room. I can't match the wall finish it look perfect without doing a whole section.
I think sanding down the drywall mud is the key to getting a good match.
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will get some shelf brackets and some plywood, going to place under tv so i will have to angle speaker upward. rf-7iii coming next
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Lots of great advice from everyone. Those brackets would work fine, and are adjustable so you can hit the studs. I think I would install a wood shelf on the brackets. It will lock everything together, give you more adjustability, and still look good. Is your center going below your TV, and aiming pretty straight forward? I assume the 64lll has adjustable spikes? That's an awesome speaker. Curious....what are your mains?
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will get some shelf brackets and some plywood, going to place under tv so i will have to angle speaker upward. rf-7iii coming next
The speaker should have a built-in screw type foot/feet for adjusting the angle. Rather than plywood, I would suggest pre-finished shelving...comes in all sizes and colors and is relatively inexpensive. I believe my 5/8"x 12"x36" shelf was under $10 from Menards...but these can be found at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. And congrats on your RF-7III's. Be sure to post pictures of your finished project!
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I sent back my Fluance Signature fronts and bought set of RP-150m's and an RP-250C. Considered going with the 450C but I think it's too much in my room.

Pretty excited though, they arrive Saturday!
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I sent back my Fluance Signature fronts and bought set of RP-150m's and an RP-250C. Considered going with the 450C but I think it's too much in my room.

Pretty excited though, they arrive Saturday!
Congrats....now you have to playing the waiting game....anticipation!
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The speaker should have a built-in screw type foot/feet for adjusting the angle. Rather than plywood, I would suggest pre-finished shelving...comes in all sizes and colors and is relatively inexpensive. I believe my 5/8"x 12"x36" shelf was under $10 from Menards...but these can be found at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. And congrats on your RF-7III's. Be sure to post pictures of your finished project!
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I think THX surrounds would blend ok with most speakers. Are the THX and your front three the same brand of speakers?

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I think THX surrounds would blend ok with most speakers. Are the THX and your front three the same brand of speakers?
i have rc-64iii and rf-7iii up front, klipsch thx or rp for rears?
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got my rc-64iii today, this speaker is massive, anyone have an idea on how to wall mount it?


I flipped my L brackets so the speakers itself is hiding them, as opposed to the bracket brace being below. I’ll upload a pic later. But it looks like a floating shelf at that point.

Your 64 is wide enough to pick up a couple of studs. I hit two for my 62 and it’s plenty sturdy.
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I personally don't have any first hand experience with the THX series. I can only comment that I can't recall much discussion of the THX's in this thread...perhaps a visit in the Klipsch forum would yield more input. I would also say that the RP series surrounds would be more than capable and would match up perfectly to your RF-7III 's and the RC-64III. To better understand what real world gains the THX series offers, I would definitely post the same question in the Klipsch forum.

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I personally don't have any first hand experience with the THX series. I can only comment that I can't recall much discussion of the THX's in this thread...perhaps a visit in the Klipsch forum would yield more input. I would also say that the RP series surrounds would be more than capable and would match up perfectly to your RF-7III 's and the RC-64III. To better understand what real world gains the THX series offers, I would definitely post the same question in the Klipsch forum.
Somehow, I read that as II, but yeah, the RP series would be more closely voice matched to the III series than the THX surrounds, and probably cost less, too.
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My neighbor that has 4 Klipsch KLF20/C7 HT and wants to move the system. The rears will need a wireless conversion kit. There are so many different ones, anyone have info??. They have a 2016 Yamaha Advantage 130X7 AVR, as I see some kits have small amps.

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He is putting 16 gauge - maximum length would be 20ft.

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i have rc-64iii and rf-7iii up front, klipsch thx or rp for rears?
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I personally don't have any first hand experience with the THX series. I can only comment that I can't recall much discussion of the THX's in this thread...perhaps a visit in the Klipsch forum would yield more input. I would also say that the RP series surrounds would be more than capable and would match up perfectly to your RF-7III 's and the RC-64III. To better understand what real world gains the THX series offers, I would definitely post the same question in the Klipsch forum.
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Somehow, I read that as II, but yeah, the RP series would be more closely voice matched to the III series than the THX surrounds, and probably cost less, too.
I agree.....Unless you could get a deal on the THX, I'd save money and get the RP series for the rears.
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And that's the key...a resource on staff. This is normally the exception rather than the rule. It's likely that high end homebuilders would retain specialized resources first and hopefully in time with greater demand, all builders will have such resources. This is no different than automotive options that are first seen/included in high end cars and then eventually seen in mid range cars as these options become more commonplace. The demand for immersive surround sound systems from the general public just isn't commonplace...yet.
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Like I said above, our builder had an A/V guy that new about home theater and other A/V things to put in the home they were building. Our A/V guy also wired and set up our alarm system and ran speaker wires to our outside wall to our patio for speakers a future time. When I tried to talk to our Builders representative about type of coax a d Cat wife, he had now clue and to talk to their A/V guy. He also ran coax for future subs for my living room. I haven't used them yet. I guess builders care about LV and A/V and others don't.
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The builder might regret that when it's time to get a good reference from the homeowner. Word of mouth is a pretty powerful type of advertising.
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I'm in agreement and commend you and your company for going above and beyond...the Nordstrom of your industry! However, its been my experience that most industries don't venture much beyond what they normally do...it incurs additional costs and disrupts time lines. In this case, ceiling background speakers for music...yes...accurate surround and 3D speaker placement for home theaters...no. This level of understanding of audio, acoustics, and codecs requires far more expertise and planning...beyond a builder's ROI. Lastly, unlike the members and visitors of these forums, most builder's customers have no knowledge or desire to incorporate much beyond a "big screen" TV and maybe a soundbar. It's unfortunate but it's the reality.
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I can't believe this either. When we built our house almost 11 years ago my build sub for AV had no problem pulling wire where ever I wanted it run. I have towers and ceiling speakers for surrounds and center wired in my living room that run to my basement where I have equipment. I also had him run speaker wire in the walls where the TV is in case I ever went with in-wall speakers. I agree, you are the customer and should get what you want. You are paying the bill.
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Wow I can't believe that a builder won't work with you on getting you the setup you want. I am the senior electrician for an electrical and technology company and its always about giving the customer what they want. Just surprises me that contractors aren't willing to work or listen to their customers.
After a lot of persuasion, the builder agreed to make it custom. Their rationale is that if someone makes it custom and then backs-off of buying the house, they will be left with something nobody wants.

In any case, they will still charge be for 7 holes in the ceiling even if I don't use them. I am planning to use atleast 4 - 2 slightly forward of seating position for Atmos and two behind of the wall for surrounds.

The fronts and center speaker will be on a wooden frame next to the tv (custom frame).

Should I ask him for the ceiling wire anyways for the other 3 spots that I am going to anyways pay for? I was going for a 5.1.2 configuration but I can theoretically plan for 7.1.2 OR 5.1.4 configuration in the future. Which one would you recommend? And where should i put the remaining two slots (the seventh one will be wasted for sure) - for 7.1.2 OR 5.1.4?

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After a lot of persuasion, the builder agreed to make it custom. Their rationale is that if someone makes it custom and then backs-off of buying the house, they will be left with something nobody wants.

In any case, they will still charge be for 7 holes in the ceiling even if I don't use them. I am planning to use atleast 4 - 2 slightly forward of seating position for Atmos and two behind of the wall for surrounds.

The fronts and center speaker will be on a wooden frame next to the tv (custom frame).

Should I ask him for the ceiling wire anyways for the other 3 spots that I am going to anyways pay for? I was going for a 5.1.2 configuration but I can theoretically plan for 7.1.2 OR 5.1.4 configuration in the future. Which one would you recommend? And where should i put the remaining two slots (the seventh one will be wasted for sure) - for 7.1.2 OR 5.1.4?

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Wait, the builder wants to charge you for the ceiling wiring AND the wall wiring? Thats BS. Its not Custom. I bet they dont consider adding extra cable jacks in the walls custom do they? How about wiring for ceiling fans in every room that you wont use, is that custom?

They could patch up the holes very easily. Its not like you are asking for yellow kitchen cabinets and orange shag carpet.....

You are paying A LOT of money for your house. They need to build it the way YOU want, not the way THEY want. Are they going to pay part of your mortgage?!!

I hate builders..........

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