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Would a move to RB 61ii be a good match to the RC 62ii over my current F3's?
The RB 61 II would be an exact match, same drivers. My experience between the two lines(Reference and RP) is that Reference is a little harsh, and RP is not. However, my experience is that the Audyssey Reference setting tamed the harshness of the Klipsch Reference line.

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Well done 👏, I Agree 100%.
Thanks for the well thought out advice. I have narrowed my choices down to either the RP-280F or RP-260F. Based on my research I understand the 280F are more powerful than the 260F, but is the difference worth the money? I will go with the center and rear to match them, but will probably get a SVS subwoofer. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Thanks for the well thought out advice. I have narrowed my choices down to either the RP-280F or RP-260F. Based on my research I understand the 280F are more powerful than the 260F, but is the difference worth the money? I will go with the center and rear to match them, but will probably get a SVS subwoofer. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Depends. If you plan to listen at ear splitting levels, the RP-280f are a must. If you plan on listening at human levels, the 260f will do just as well, at least with a subwoofer. Even with a subwoofer, the RP280f can play louder. But, like I said, we are talking excessively, dangerously loud.

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The RB 61 II would be an exact match, same drivers. My experience between the two lines(Reference and RP) is that Reference is a little harsh, and RP is not. However, my experience is that the Audyssey Reference setting tamed the harshness of the Klipsch Reference line.

I agree with the RP. I came from the wharfedale diamond line and supposedly got the klipsch expecting the worst. Surprisingly, I didnt find any harshness at all with the RP 160M/250C. Well, I kinda expected (and wanted) some. lol

Im also using Denon x1300 and it seems that when cinema EQ is off, I hear some exaggerated high frequencies (is this sibilance? or something like exaggerated hi-hats or SSSSS in words). Turning it ON seems to make the voice warmer.

Yeah, if I can have a movie only speakers, I will definitely have the Reference line. :-)
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I agree with the RP. I came from the wharfedale diamond line and supposedly got the klipsch expecting the worst. Surprisingly, I didnt find any harshness at all with the RP 160M/250C. Well, I kinda expected (and wanted) some. lol

Im also using Denon x1300 and it seems that when cinema EQ is off, I hear some exaggerated high frequencies (is this sibilance? or something like exaggerated hi-hats or SSSSS in words). Turning it ON seems to make the voice warmer.

Yeah, if I can have a movie only speakers, I will definitely have the Reference line. :-)
Thanks for the advice everyone. I have decided on RP250c/160m. That will help me declutter the living room a bit (WAF) factor and get a little cleaner sound overall. Both units are Open Box-Like New from authorized resellers with full warranty.

Anyone have a suggestion on speaker stands that can be weighted (add shot or sand to)? We have a 1 yr old that would just love to topple them on top of herself.
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Thanks for the well thought out advice. I have narrowed my choices down to either the RP-280F or RP-260F. Based on my research I understand the 280F are more powerful than the 260F, but is the difference worth the money? I will go with the center and rear to match them, but will probably get a SVS subwoofer. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Well few question need to be asked. How much different it is in $$$ for you. For some it is huge for others no big deal.Each budget is different. Also get ready when you will buy RP-260F you will sooner or later looking for upgrade or ask question do it or not . RP-280F is better speaker then RP-260F no question but with good subs you will hardly know it unless you like to listen suer loud or like to listen 2 channel music without sub as I do. Then RP-280F will shine over RP-260F. No matter what you choice I will go for sure with center RP-450C over RP440C all day long!!!! For movies it is center of universe. So if you looking for towers what is going to stay for long time at your house I vote for 280F. I will bite $200 and go 8". Those bigger copper woofers also looked better if you are fan of those woofers as I'm.
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Thanks for the well thought out advice. I have narrowed my choices down to either the RP-280F or RP-260F. Based on my research I understand the 280F are more powerful than the 260F, but is the difference worth the money? I will go with the center and rear to match them, but will probably get a SVS subwoofer. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
If you're using them for cinema most of the time then it's probably not worth the money to upgrade. Seems like the 280's shine most with 2ch listening without subs or with a little backup. My 250F's sound great for movies (xover at 80hz anyways) and I use my subs for "2ch" listening. If I had a dedicated 2ch room I'd probably go with the 7III's.
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For guys in EU, what plugs did you use to overcome EUinitsgreatestwisdomputtingplasticpintopreventyou usingusualbananaplugs issue? Did you find Z-type (Z-plug, BFA) fitting or not all fitting?
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Seems like the 280's shine most with 2ch listening without subs or with a little backup
They sure do. I just picked up a pair of RP-280FA's and I'm really impressed with how they sound using them 2 ch. I use Sting's album "Ten Summoner's Tales" for testing and I can't believe how good it sounds with these speakers. Crystal clear with really good dynamics. I can't be happier with them so far. They sound very good with HT as well. It's the best of both worlds for me.
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Finally getting around to replacing my LCR, currently running old school Synergy F-20s for LCR, then a 7.2.4 Atmos all the way around. CDT-5800 and R-5800wii for the sides and tears.

I’m torn between RF-7ii and RP-280F. I know the RF-7 is the top of the line option but would the RP-280F match my system better since it’d be 8 inch mids all around?

Use is 100% dedicated theater 14.5' x 24' x 10 room. I appreciate any input!!
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Finally getting around to replacing my LCR, currently running old school Synergy F-20s for LCR, then a 7.2.4 Atmos all the way around. CDT-5800 and R-5800wii for the sides and tears.

I’m torn between RF-7ii and RP-280F. I know the RF-7 is the top of the line option but would the RP-280F match my system better since it’d be 8 inch mids all around?

Use is 100% dedicated theater 14.5' x 24' x 10 room. I appreciate any input!!
I'm interested in this question too! I'm considering the RP-280F but I'm not sure if I have any place to demo them locally. I've heard that there are occasional sales online, and crutchfield seems to have a small discount this week, but do Klipsch RP speakers have bigger sales occasionally?
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Finally getting around to replacing my LCR, currently running old school Synergy F-20s for LCR, then a 7.2.4 Atmos all the way around. CDT-5800 and R-5800wii for the sides and tears.

I’m torn between RF-7ii and RP-280F. I know the RF-7 is the top of the line option but would the RP-280F match my system better since it’d be 8 inch mids all around?

Use is 100% dedicated theater 14.5' x 24' x 10 room. I appreciate any input!!
If you have the space and the budget get the RF7s towers with the RF center. Larger tweets and woofers. Built in USA. Better sound dynamics all around. You cannot find much better speaker for the price IMO.
If I had a dedicated theater that's what I would have bought.

My theater is in the living room so I had to balance size, WAF and astetics. I ended up with the RP-260f's with RP-450c center. It sounds great since I have a SVS pb 16ultra for my lows. But I really want to upgrade to the RF7s. They are really to big for my living room though. I really like the size of the RP-260f's.


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Here's one for you guys...

After I bought my LCR I noticed the center popping at loud volume. It sounded kind of like the tweeter was blown, and I came to the forums looking for suggestions. Replaced the tweeter, same issue. Thought maybe the receiver was clipping, so I bought an Outlaw 2200 for the center channel. Same issue. Ignored it for quite a while then a couple weeks ago decided to take a closer look.

I feel dumb for not doing it before but I held my ear close to each speaker while repeating a scene that wasn't screaming loud but still produced the problem. Turns out, it was the left woofer clearly making the popping sound.

Here's the real dumb part, I ordered a replacement before removing the original to inspect (out of warranty). When the replacement got here I pulled the woofer out and found a piece of hot glue dangling from inside the cab, with the solid blob resting on the back of the woofer.

Dropping the blob onto the woofer produced a virtually identical sound, just quieter. I'm guessing certain frequencies would bounce/strike it and make the sound. Everything sounds awesome now.

Hey at least I have a spare tweeter and woofer now, and an Outlaw. Can't imagine this happens often..


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Thoughts on a 7.1.4, or 7.2.4 Atmos setup? I am going to use 2 or 4 ceiling speakers (probably the Polks RC80is but i'm open to suggestions here) to round out the Atmos overheads, but what speakers would you recommend (with sub) on a ~$2000-$2500 budget? I like the Klipsch brand generally, have had great results with it in the past but I'm not sure given how many choices of speakers there are. My family room is about 17x22', if that is any help, and the TV will be mounted over my fireplace. I don't want any floorstanding speakers, I want wall mounted ones preferably (wife won't go for the standing ones). Being used 95% for movies and surround sound for them.

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Thoughts on a 7.1.4, or 7.2.4 Atmos setup? I am going to use 2 or 4 ceiling speakers (probably the Polks RC80is but i'm open to suggestions here) to round out the Atmos overheads, but what speakers would you recommend (with sub) on a ~$2000-$2500 budget? I like the Klipsch brand generally, have had great results with it in the past but I'm not sure given how many choices of speakers there are. My family room is about 17x22', if that is any help, and the TV will be mounted over my fireplace. I don't want any floorstanding speakers, I want wall mounted ones preferably (wife won't go for the standing ones). Being used 95% for movies and surround sound for them.

Appreciate any thoughts -- please quote me so I know I got a reply Thanks!
I am assuming you mean 7.1.2 or 7.1.4 system. The last number designates overhead speakers and the middle number is subwoofers. And of course this is AVS forum so we all are going to tell you to get the most speakers possible.
Overhead speakers are less critical to be voiced matched with fronts and center so go with what your budget and tastes dictate. Your auto EQ on you AV will level match everything anyway. I am assuming you have a 11channel AV to process 7.1.4? To bad about the floor standing speakers though. Limits you quality wise. Will the wife go with large bookshelf at least?



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I am assuming you mean 7.1.2 or 7.1.4 system. The last number designates overhead speakers and the middle number is subwoofers. And of course this is AVS forum so we all are going to tell you to get the most speakers possible.
Overhead speakers are less critical to be voiced matched with fronts and center so go with what your budget and tastes dictate. Your auto EQ on you AV will level match everything anyway. I am assuming you have a 11channel AV to process 7.1.4? To bad about the floor standing speakers though. Limits you quality wise. Will the wife go with large bookshelf at least?



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Large bookshelf speakers are fine, so long as they can be wall mounted. I'm also open to suggestions on the receiver. I have a Yamaha TSR 7810 right now, not sure if that will fit the bill as it's in a box so I can't really play with it right now
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Large bookshelf speakers are fine, so long as they can be wall mounted. I'm also open to suggestions on the receiver. I have a Yamaha TSR 7810 right now, not sure if that will fit the bill as it's in a box so I can't really play with it right now
Looks like the Yamaha TSR 7810 will only do up to 7.x.2 from what I have seen online. I would still wire for at least 7.x.4 if you ever upgrade.

Klipsch does make in-wall and on-wall speakers. If you go with in-walls I would build backer boxes for them in the wall. They could be behind a AT screen and you wife would never see them.

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I finally had the opportunity to compare my Klipsch RSW-15's with the SVS SB-16 Ultra subs. Both subs sound fantastic but one stood out above the other.

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Good review but you may want to invest in REW to see how the frequency response is to see where or why you're not feeling the pressurization of the svs subs. Not all subwoofers will have same frequency response in the same exact spot. What I mean is, the Klipsch sub may sound good where you normally have it....but if you put svs sub or another sub for that matter in exact same spot, it could have different freq response and would require to move it forward, back, etc., or possibly in different part of the room for it to sound its best. Just my experience with different brand subs that it takes trial and error. Would be so nice to simply swap subs if they all perform best in exact same location but of course the room will have an effect on that.

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Guys, is it safe to use a 60hz crossover on the 450C center?

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its -3db point is 58Hz. I would keep the crossover at 80
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Safe? sure. Optimal? not really. You dont normally want to cross that close to the tuning frequency.

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Safe? sure. Optimal? not really. You dont normally want to cross that close to the tuning frequency.
It won't hurt anything. A typical AVR will be using a second order hi-pass filter. Anything from 40Hz on up as a crossover will be just fine up to the speakers rated power handling.

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It won't hurt anything. A typical AVR will be using a second order hi-pass filter. Anything from 40Hz on up as a crossover will be just fine up to the speakers rated power handling.

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Right, I’m speaking purely from a performance standpoint. You usually want to be a good 10Hz or more above a speakers -3db point for a better crossover blend and to avoid any phase issues with port tuning.


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Right, I’m speaking purely from a performance standpoint. You usually want to be a good 10Hz or more above a speakers -3db point for a better crossover blend and to avoid any phase issues with port tuning.


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Phase issues with what port? One from another speaker?
In a room the location will change the response of a speaker. It will also affect the low end roll off of every speaker in there.
I understand where you are coming from, but it isn't as simple as "good practice".

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Phase issues with what port? One from another speaker?
In a room the location will change the response of a speaker. It will also affect the low end roll off of every speaker in there.
I understand where you are coming from, but it isn't as simple as "good practice".

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the 450C is ported. the phase issue would be with the center channels port tuning. Anyway, the question was "is it safe?" the answer is SURE its SAFE buts its not GOOD PRACTICE

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Just cause the speaker can go that low doesn't mean you have to use very low xover. I'm using 100hz xover on my RP speakers and they perform better than 80hz or 60hz in my room. The room itself will determine the best crossover settings, not how low the speaker can actually play.
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Just cause the speaker can go that low doesn't mean you have to use very low xover. I'm using 100hz xover on my RP speakers and they perform better than 80hz or 60hz in my room. The room itself will determine the best crossover settings, not how low the speaker can actually play.
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