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If your personal tastes or room constraints are dictating ceiling mounted rear surrounds, it would be best to forego the rear surrounds. Proper Atmos configuration require vertical separation between the bed speakers (rear surrounds) and the overhead speakers (ceiling Atmos). Having both in the ceiling will destroy the accuracy of the intended immersive Atmos effects. As a suggestion, you may want to visit the Atmos Installation Guide on Dolby's website.

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...tup/index.html

From Dolby's installation guidelines....

You'll get the best sound when the front and surround speakers are at or slightly above your ear level when you're seated. Wall-mounted surrounds can be higher, but no speakers should be higher than half the height of your wall.

As an alternative or option, is there a possibility you could place bookshelf rear surrounds on stands behind your seating at or slightly above ear level?



I could be mistaken but I believe only the Klipsch CDT 3000 and 5000 series have swiveling horn tweeters.
Unfortunately having traditional surround rear speakers will be impossible because of my living room setup. The right side of the room would not be a problem but the left side is the main walkway that has a small study area instead of drywall. My understanding is the entire CDT series has a swivel tweeter and woofer tilt. This is why I was hoping to go all in ceiling for surround and two atmos speakers ahead of my seating position.

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Just picked up some rf-7 iii and rc-64 iii, they are powered by emotiva xpa-1 monoblocks and yamaha rx-a2060. I have pb16 sub.
What crossover point is good for theater, sounds great when mains are set to large but i know thats not right
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Just picked up some rf-7 iii and rc-64 iii, they are powered by emotiva xpa-1 monoblocks and yamaha rx-a2060. I have pb16 sub.
What crossover point is good for theater, sounds great when mains are set to large but i know thats not right
Congrats on the 7/64's...

With a sub, set the mains to "small." Use 80Hz as starting point for the crossover and experiment between 60Hz and 100Hz to taste. To gain a wealth of understanding with respect to subwoofer calibration, may I suggest visiting the following post by @mthomas47

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-su...eferences.html

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Just picked up some rf-7 iii and rc-64 iii, they are powered by emotiva xpa-1 monoblocks and yamaha rx-a2060. I have pb16 sub.
What crossover point is good for theater, sounds great when mains are set to large but i know thats not right
Congrats on an awesome set of speakers.

What Gene said on the setup.
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I am subscribing to this owner thread since I finally pulled the trigger on the Klipsch RP-140SA from Amazon US yesterday.

I intend to put it on top of my Paradigm Studio 100 V5 floorstanders to start with.

Since the Klipsch RP-140SA can also be wall mounted, is anyone using it in the wall mount position. Is it better to have it front wall mounted or rear side wall mounted on a 5.1.2 setup, if I am not getting satisfactory results with it sitting on top of my floorstanding speakers?
I was planning to get a couple pair of these to hang them in the walls. I do not trust the seatting on top of the fronts arrangement for which they're designed. All ears here for your conclusions...
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I’ve been using Klipsch RF-82’s since 2009 and feel that it’s time for an upgrade. I’ve been out of the speaker game for a bit and am thinking of either getting a pair of RF7 II and Rc-64 II since they’re on discount and using my rf-82 as side surrounds and RB-61’s as rears. I’m also considering a pair of RP-280’s with matching center. Which would be a more noticeable upgrade? Would the RP-280 speakers pair well with the RF-82’s as side surrounds?

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I’ve been using Klipsch RF-82’s since 2009 and feel that it’s time for an upgrade. I’ve been out of the speaker game for a bit and am thinking of either getting a pair of RF7 II and Rc-64 II since they’re on discount and using my rf-82 as side surrounds and RB-61’s as rears. I’m also considering a pair of RP-280’s with matching center. Which would be a more noticeable upgrade? Would the RP-280 speakers pair well with the RF-82’s as side surrounds?
I've never heard the RF7 II and Rc-64 II, so I can't comment. The Rp-280 are a definite upgrade, as they do not have the harshness that some of us perceive of the RF-82 thanks to the new horn and tweeter. I do not think they would pair well for music, unless you have a receiver with Audyssey that would try to match the RF-82 to the RP. For theater, probably would be fine.

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I’ve been using Klipsch RF-82’s since 2009 and feel that it’s time for an upgrade. I’ve been out of the speaker game for a bit and am thinking of either getting a pair of RF7 II and Rc-64 II since they’re on discount and using my rf-82 as side surrounds and RB-61’s as rears. I’m also considering a pair of RP-280’s with matching center. Which would be a more noticeable upgrade? Would the RP-280 speakers pair well with the RF-82’s as side surrounds?
I haven’t heard the 280s but the RF7II was SUCH a nice improvement over the 82II that I’d pick the 7&64. The value delivered at the current price point is really amazing.
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Just picked up some rf-7 iii and rc-64 iii, they are powered by emotiva xpa-1 monoblocks and yamaha rx-a2060. I have pb16 sub.
What crossover point is good for theater, sounds great when mains are set to large but i know thats not right
Congrats to your new set up. Can’t even think about what you missing now. Oh wait a minute maybe second PB-16 😁.
Just kidding great set and enjoy it. Talking to how to set it @gene4ht is right I have mine set to 80hz.
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I've never heard the RF7 II and Rc-64 II, so I can't comment. The Rp-280 are a definite upgrade, as they do not have the harshness that some of us perceive of the RF-82 thanks to the new horn and tweeter. I do not think they would pair well for music, unless you have a receiver with Audyssey that would try to match the RF-82 to the RP. For theater, probably would be fine.
I did exactly same step as @mpirnat 2 years ago and I will still do it today. I know 280 speaker is better then 82II but still behind RF-7II. This speaker is simply amazing. If you have a chance to score good deal on RF-7II it make decision even easier.
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Congrats to your new set up. Can’t even think about what you missing now. Oh wait a minute maybe second PB-16 😁.
Just kidding great set and enjoy it. Talking to how to set it @gene4ht is right I have mine set to 80hz.
will add 2nd pb16 once room is closer to complete, like that ever will happen.
did some back to back testing, 80hz is def the sweet spot
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Thanks everyone. I’ll be looking at getting the RF-7 II’s. Would the RF-82’s that I have be good for surrounds or should I get the matching surrounds? I’m using the RS-52’s right now for side surrounds and two RB-61’s for back surrounds. My current rooms is pretty small (2000 cubic feet) but I plan on moving into a house with a bigger room in the next year or so. I already have 2 18” Rythmik subs so I’m good in the bass department.

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Thanks everyone. I’ll be looking at getting the RF-7 II’s. Would the RF-82’s that I have be good for surrounds or should I get the matching surrounds? I’m using the RS-52’s right now for side surrounds and two RB-61’s for back surrounds. My current rooms is pretty small (2000 square feet) but I plan on moving into a house with a bigger room in the next year or so. I already have 2 18” Rythmik subs so I’m good in the bass department.
Well if I have room big enough and will never sell RF-82II’s. Well I did due to size and I bought RS-62II’s. If you can fit RF-82II I will keep them for sure. I agree your bass department looks like all done 👏👍.
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I already have 2 18” Rythmik subs so I’m good in the bass department.
I'll have to agree with you with on that.

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Well if I have room big enough and will never sell RF-82II’s. Well I did due to size and I bought RS-62II’s. If you can fit RF-82II I will keep them for sure. I agree your bass department looks like all done 👏👍.
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I'll have to agree with you with on that.
Not to diminish what @rudyr has but it’s all a matter of perspective. For some, there can never be enough subwooferage. There’s an AVS member who has RF 7II mains and 16 18” subs...8 in the front of his HT and 8 nearfield behind his seating!
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Not to diminish what @rudyr has but it’s all a matter of perspective. For some, there can never be enough subwooferage. There’s an AVS member who has RF 7II mains and 16 18” subs...8 in the front of his HT and 8 nearfield behind his seating!
It was just a Rythmik high five.

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It was just a Rythmik high five.

Thanks drh3b. My apologies to everyone if my post was interpreted to be negative in anyway. It was meant to convey that there is no end/limit to being a "basshead."
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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has tried the New Klipsch Soundbar: Klipsch RP-440D-SB
Is it recommended? How limiting will it be since the woofers are 3.5 inch only?
How will movies dialogues sound and how music?


Trying to make an home theatre setup with this passive soundbar, which has a good pricing, sells on amazon for about 400$
Would need also advice on In-Ceil Speakers that would match for the surrounds, (with max mounting depth of 3.8-3.9inch total)

And advice for a subwoofer to complete this set. (R-112SW?)

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Just following up on my earlier post about being a "basshead." For those of you who have not seen this, it's a lot of eye candy! Never have RF-7 II's and RC-64 II's looked so small! Also makes my PB-16's look inadequate! BTW, PM'd Austin (popalock) to get this link and his ok to repost.


https://www.avsforum.com/forum/92-com...gger-subs.html
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Can I use the R-15PMs as surrounds?
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I was thinking the same thing
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Can I use the R-15PMs as surrounds?
Yes...you can...but...

IMO...it depends. It depends on several factors (1) whether you'll be configuring for Atmos...higher or lower positioning (2) how close your seating will be to the speaker's mounting position...close seating proximity to direct radiators are not ideal (3) and whether they'll be used as side or rear surrounds. Also, keep in mind that (1) opinions differ in favor of direct radiators or diffuse radiators (bipoles) for surrounds and (2) R-15PM's have a rear port which performs best away from a wall. If you're considering an Atmos installation, I would recommend posting in the Atmos thread where abundant expert advice would be available for your specific question and or situation.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...sion-1663.html
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R-15PMs, are the powered ones, right?
I will be using, the R-15M for rear surrounds, at least in the beginning, which I will be placing on the side, but higher, on speaker mounts(shelf w/clamp style mounts).
The RP-150Ms for front, and I still need to buy, a RP-450C for the center.
I have picked up a RW-10 sub, for $30 which I'm repairing. Waiting on parts.

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Curious why Klipsch doesn't get a ton of love around here. They do in this thread but when people are recommending I don't see them a lot. Is it because they can charge a premium with their name and similar quality speakers can be had for cheaper?

I picked up a couple used Klipsch subs (RW-10) from a guy and I have been very happy with them.
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Curious why Klipsch doesn't get a ton of love around here. They do in this thread but when people are recommending I don't see them a lot. Is it because they can charge a premium with their name and similar quality speakers can be had for cheaper?

I picked up a couple used Klipsch subs (RW-10) from a guy and I have been very happy with them.
I have been wondering the same. I love my rp160ms and 250c. They sound phenomenal.
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I have a 5.1.2 Atmos setup, I still have little bookshelf polk audio for rears but am deciding on the Rp160m bookshelf’s or the Rp 260f floorstanders for my rears. Which one do I go for?

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Regarding the no love for KLipsch, I also sometimes wonder.

I wonder if it's ignorance, or maybe even (for some vain folks anyway) an issue that they don't cost enough therefore they're not audiophile enough.

Example: I once had some conversations with someone who was 'unimpressed' with the Jubilee (mind you, said person had never heard them).

As I recall, the logic was something like "How could a (for example) $7,000 speaker sound anywhere close to my $35,000 Wilsons...??" (or whatever speaker brand he had)

After banging my head on the wall, I explained that the Jubilee was originally going to MSRP for something like $20K or $25K BUT, that was with the prettier finished version, not the black cinema version that we were buying for $7/8K (pair). I tried to get him to understand that from the perspective of the sound, the $7K version sounds EXACTLY the same as the $25K version would have but it just doesn't have $18K worth of lipstick applied to it.

Since I hear with my ears and not my eyes, I'm ok with less lipstick and that extra cash in my pocket (which would have precluded me from buying them.... I don't care WHAT it sounds like, I'm not going to spend that kind of cash on a speaker)

So I wonder if for some, it's a vanity thing about price and bragging rights??
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I have a 5.1.2 Atmos setup, I still have little bookshelf polk audio for rears but am deciding on the Rp160m bookshelf’s or the Rp 260f floorstanders for my rears. Which one do I go for?
Either one will be great. The flloorstanders are probably overkill, but they will certainly do a good job, it's what I have for my surrounds.
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Regarding the no love for KLipsch, I also sometimes wonder...

...So I wonder if for some, it's a vanity thing about price and bragging rights??
I think it's the power of suggestion....The same complaints you read on the internet are the same salesman of different speakers used to day in the day when they were trying to sell you something else. Fwiw, I purchased my Klipsch and feel it DOES give me bragging rights.

That said, evidently some people don't like clean sound in the upper frequencies and I can see if the settings, volume, or room was wrong, some of the lower end speakers could get quite "bright."
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Would my RF-82 speakers work well for back surrounds or should I stick with my RB-61’s after getting the RF-7II and RC-64 II?
Also I always found the sound of my original RF-82’s would get fatiguing after listening to them for a long time. I understand the RF-7 II can also be bright but how much better or worse is it than the RF-82’s? I’m wondering if I should have went with the SVS Ultra bookshelves. This is primarily for home theater.
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