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I’ve decided on a multimedia sectional that will have 5 power recline seats and a wedge for 2 more. I was going to go the 2 rows, and could get more seats, but my wife liked the fact that she could talk with friends if they came over for a sporting event. I don’t care as long as I have the best seat in the house.

Since 3 of the seats will be along the wall, I will try to not toe them first and then go from there.
Can’t disagree with this either! Two rows makes it a bit more theater like and formal...but a a sectional tends to be more informal, comfy, and friendly. Toe in is generally for the money MLP seat...folks in the other positions generally aren’t concerned as with us OCD enthusiasts. I’ve heard those other seats referred to as the MLP (Mother in Law Position) as well!
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Wow, great catch!!! When I was on the Klipsch site, when you click on the 3650, it goes to the 5800 for some reason, which has the titanium tweeter. For sure I need to go with either the 5650 or 5800. See what you get when you try to save a buck. Thanks again for pointing that out, I would have been mad had I bought them and then discovered my error - especially if they were installed.
well buying form acoustic sound design or sound distributors will save you some good money. But you have to call to get a better price.

update: just noticed these were recommended already. I've bought a a lot of stuff from ASD. no problems-good prices.
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I actually do toe them in now. I'm not sure it makes as much of a difference for me as it does for others since I listen to multichannel stereo most of the time, but it definitely sounds better when I play vinyl in a more traditional 2 channel setting.

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well buying form acoustic sound design or sound distributors will save you some good money. But you have to call to get a better price.

update: just noticed these were recommended already. I've bought a a lot of stuff from ASD. no problems-good prices.
For sure - never pay msrp!
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Nice looking system, I too and into "spinnin vinyl" :-) I assume you you have that sub turned off when "spinnin" :-). I tried several AVR with my TT and went back to separates (NAD) for analog. HUGE difference with my MC carts and reel to reel recordings from Lp's. The pre/amp is a major factor in accurate recording/play back. On some LP's I use my SVS PB 13 Ultra WOW most musical sub I have ever owned, I am sure there are many others jus sayin. Clean modern looking room Thumbs Up.
Thank you for the kind words! I'm definitely breaking some rules having the turntable on the sub. Honestly though, the sub is built like a tank and puts off almost zero vibration, so it has never caused an issue. For the most part I just play with strictly the towers on full range, but on the rare occasion I play it with the sub on, it doesn't cause it to skip. At some point I'll try to find a better home, especially if I upgrade to a better table.

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That's a great looking setup! In terms of possible future upgrades, I hear your space crying out for a projector and a 120" screen!
Thank you! The TV is 75" and seems a lot bigger in person than it does through pictures, but I'm pretty sure when the time comes to upgrade I will be moving to a projector. I stuck with a TV when I upgraded last year since my wife is a photographer and will sometimes show her clients their pictures on the screen. I figured a comparable projector would break the budget but as much as I love the TV (Sony 940D), I admittedly have projector envy from time to time...

Anyway, my room is more of a media room than dedicated space but I still have fairly decent light control. Here are a few more pictures in case anyone likes looking at other peoples set-ups as much as I do

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The 5800’s are out of stock, so the 5650’s will work. Ordering 4 now.
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Nice space, @ebdixson !
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Thank you! The TV is 75" and seems a lot bigger in person than it does through pictures, but I'm pretty sure when the time comes to upgrade I will be moving to a projector. I stuck with a TV when I upgraded last year since my wife is a photographer and will sometimes show her clients their pictures on the screen. I figured a comparable projector would break the budget but as much as I love the TV (Sony 940D), I admittedly have projector envy from time to time...

Anyway, my room is more of a media room than dedicated space but I still have fairly decent light control. Here are a few more pictures in case anyone likes looking at other peoples set-ups as much as I do

Very nice use of you spaces! In keeping with your media and multi-entertainment room theme, there's no reason why you can't have both a flat panel and a projector in the media space. This would allow you to use the flat panel for casual and general TV viewing and for your wife's professional needs plus a larger cinematic and immersive screen for serious movie viewing and special sporting events...i.e. Super Bowl, World Series, Olympics, etc. Members here have accomplished this with a projector and drop down screen...thereby the best of both worlds. It may be surprising to know that current projectors with 4K capability + screen are actually less than the Sony's 940D's MSRP. Additionally, projectors today have sufficient brightness to produce very watchable images in rooms with moderate ambient light. Only the hard core enthusiasts among us continue to require and promote the idea of a completely dark bat cave for projectors. Just wanted to provide some thoughts and ideas for your possible future direction...so no real need to replace one for the other when both can coexist!
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The 5800’s are out of stock, so the 5650’s will work. Ordering 4 now.

A bit OT here...but be sure to drop by the Atmos thread prior to wiring and installing these. Again, apart from the speakers themselves, the most important aspect is proper location and positioning of the overheads relative to seating and base (side and rear surrounds) level speakers.
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A bit OT here...but be sure to drop by the Atmos thread prior to wiring and installing these. Again, apart from the speakers themselves, the most important aspect is proper location and positioning of the overheads relative to seating and base (side and rear surrounds) level speakers.
I sure will - I’m definitely not up to speed when it comes to Atmos. I’m hoping my installer knows, but just in case, is should start reading to make sure I’m happy with the results. The first guy that quoted me to run the lines knew less about HT than I did. Tried to sell me some crap speakers for the room, even after I showed him what I was putting in there. He also quoted me 3x the going rate, so I went with another company that didn’t gouge me.

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Very nice use of you spaces! In keeping with your media and multi-entertainment room theme, there's no reason why you can't have both a flat panel and a projector in the media space. This would allow you to use the flat panel for casual and general TV viewing and for your wife's professional needs plus a larger cinematic and immersive screen for serious movie viewing and special sporting events...i.e. Super Bowl, World Series, Olympics, etc. Members here have accomplished this with a projector and drop down screen...thereby the best of both worlds. It may be surprising to know that current projectors with 4K capability + screen are actually less than the Sony's 940D's MSRP. Additionally, projectors today have sufficient brightness to produce very watchable images in rooms with moderate ambient light. Only the hard core enthusiasts among us continue to require and promote the idea of a completely dark bat cave for projectors. Just wanted to provide some thoughts and ideas for your possible future direction...so no real need to replace one for the other when both can coexist!
Thanks for the info! I've looked into some options such as a drop down screen in front of the TV, but I haven't found any yet that are visually appealing enough to start the long, calculated sales process to my wife yet as far as why we need yet another upgrade. I think long term I'd like a fixed screen (100-110") with a mid level 4k projector. As you mentioned, the prices have come down significantly in the last two years. My next move will be a few acoustic panels and perhaps an arcade machine of some sort (I have a 5 and 8 year old), so the projector is probably 3 years away.

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I sure will - I’m definitely not up to speed when it comes to Atmos. I’m hoping my installer knows, but just in case, is should start reading to make sure I’m happy with the results. The first guy that quoted me to run the lines knew less about HT than I did. Tried to sell me some crap speakers for the room, even after I showed him what I was putting in there. He also quoted me 3x the going rate, so I went with another company that didn’t gouge me.

A couple of items you may want to place on your nightstand.
https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...tup/index.html

Although somewhat forgiving, accurate Atmos performance (object positioning and panning) requires the proper placement/location of the overhead and surround speakers relative to the seating position(s). The diagram below should be helpful in your discussions with your contractor.
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For more definitive Atmos guidance, the thread below is frequented by experienced users and knowledgeable folks who are very helpful...
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...sion-1738.html
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Thanks for the info! I've looked into some options such as a drop down screen in front of the TV, but I haven't found any yet that are visually appealing enough to start the long, calculated sales process to my wife yet as far as why we need yet another upgrade. I think long term I'd like a fixed screen (100-110") with a mid level 4k projector. As you mentioned, the prices have come down significantly in the last two years. My next move will be a few acoustic panels and perhaps an arcade machine of some sort (I have a 5 and 8 year old), so the projector is probably 3 years away.

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Acoustic panels are great upgrades/additions!

As far as visually appealing drop down screens are concerned...I don't think there is such an animal! Rather, most folks have stealth installations where the screen is hidden behind/within a simple visually appealing/decorative soffit. Just a thought...but your room appears to ideal for such a soffit...a false soffit bridging/between the two existing soffits.

Lastly, what many have discovered is that both men and women have found the WOW factor of a 100"+ cinematic image to be very engaging...not watching TV but being totally immersed. Further, parents and children alike tend to look forward to movie night...munching popcorn and watching the larger than life Disney and Pixar characters. In fact, my road to projectors began years ago when we watched Shrek on a borrowed workplace projector. Even though we had a 50" big screen at the time, my wife said afterwards "we need one of those" after seeing how excited and thrilled the kids were in the immersed images. Three years is not long!
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I was wondering if any of you can help me. I purchased a used set of R-28f towers and when they came in, one of them was missing the Jumper Plates. Needles to say my twitter wasn't working. Meantime I ran a speaker wire just to get it working. I called Klipsch but they want to sell me the whole back plate with the crossover and binding posts for over $80 and I only need the jumpers. Does any of you guys have a spare set that is willing to sell me ?? Thank you so much in advance and I really appreciate it.

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Hi guys i just picked up a klipsch kc-25 center to go with my klipsch f-20 mains. The energy center I have wasnt cutting it with my yamaha rxa870. All I need now is some klipsch rear channels any recommendations.
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You can make a jumper out of speaker wire.
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Thank you!! That is what I did for meantime but being a little ocd, I would like to find the original plates
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I went with a pair of the BIC America FH-65B for the rears specs and high sensitivity matching the klipsch center channel.
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Does anyone know what the AW-650 speakers weigh? Klipcsh had them listed as 9lbs in the spec sheet but I'm not sure if that's each or for the boxed pair. I'm ordering a few pairs to use for on-ceiling atmos and trying to prep for it.
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Does anyone know what the AW-650 speakers weigh? Klipcsh had them listed as 9lbs in the spec sheet but I'm not sure if that's each or for the boxed pair. I'm ordering a few pairs to use for on-ceiling atmos and trying to prep for it.
The published shipping weight for the pair is 25-26 lbs suggesting that 9 lbs each is likely accurate.

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Thanks! I didn't see that shipping weight anywhere. Everything I founds only listed the 9 lbs. It felt like that should be each with with the size of them.
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Thanks! I didn't see that shipping weight anywhere. Everything I founds only listed the 9 lbs. It felt like that should be each with with the size of them.
Here you go. I didn't see it on the Klipsch site but found it on Amazon and others...scroll down to product information.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-AW-65.../dp/B001B33QP6

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Here you go. I didn't see it on the Klipsch site but found it on Amazon and others...scroll down to product information.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-AW-65.../dp/B001B33QP6

You might also try this search on Ebay. There is not much there today, but over time there are some deals for about half the new price.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...akers&_sacat=0
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Anyone have experience with Klipsch in-walls? Specifically the 5502WII or the Pro 250RPW?

Switching gears and probably going completely in wall but both reviews and retailers for these are nit easy to come by.
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Anyone have experience with Klipsch in-walls? Specifically the 5502WII or the Pro 250RPW?

Switching gears and probably going completely in wall but both reviews and retailers for these are nit easy to come by.
I have thought of using these my self if I was to upgrade and don't want to lose much length in my room. The Pro series looks like if you are handy you could install them, I would just build a backer box for them to make them sound even better. Here is a video of how there are a little easier to install. If you used three for your L/C/R that should sound good. As for someone to install them, have you checked local A/V shops in your area?


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Also seen this on Klipsch website to find an installer. See if you can find one close to you.

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Can anyone comment on their experience with the rp440c? Specifically how does the it handle bass down to 80hz? Like low male voices and such. I'm looking for a low height center channel and there isn't much under 6 inches, this is one of the few. I was going to go with polk s35 but read alot of people saying it sounded thin and boxy, not a lot of bass, and I heard a little demo at BB and it didn't seem too great. I'm looking for something with great dialogue intelligibility at all ranges and just a good center overall, would this be a much better option?

I'm looking to pair it with the rp 250f and the r14s surrounds. Would the r14s be a bad match since they're not from the same line, like would I notice them or are they similar enough to not matter that much? Id like to get the rp surrounds but I really don't want to spend over $200 on surrounds. Thanks
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Anyone have experience with Klipsch in-walls? Specifically the 5502WII or the Pro 250RPW?

Switching gears and probably going completely in wall but both reviews and retailers for these are nit easy to come by.
I've installed the 5502's in my daughter's home under a 65" flat panel. They are excellent performers. The installation is very simple for the DIY'er...just cut the appropriate size opening in the drywall, insert the entire speaker assembly, twist and screw/secure the holding tabs, and done...oh and the "paintable" magnetic grill is a nice touch. Depending on your home's construction type and installation location, the most challenging part could be running and fishing the speaker wire. Beyond this, keep in mind that in wall speakers can result in sound transmission to other parts of the home (more so if mounted in interior walls vs exterior walls). As others have mentioned, a backer box is helpful for improving sound quality and limiting sound transmission. Also, it's a good ideal to surround the speaker with or without a backer box with perhaps blanket insulation to further dampen sound transmission. Lastly, these speakers are widely available through many authorized on line retailers at substantial discounts. Good luck with your project!
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Can anyone comment on their experience with the rp440c? Specifically how does the it handle bass down to 80hz? Like low male voices and such. I'm looking for a low height center channel and there isn't much under 6 inches, this is one of the few. I was going to go with polk s35 but read alot of people saying it sounded thin and boxy, not a lot of bass, and I heard a little demo at BB and it didn't seem too great. I'm looking for something with great dialogue intelligibility at all ranges and just a good center overall, would this be a much better option?

I'm looking to pair it with the rp 250f and the r14s surrounds. Would the r14s be a bad match since they're not from the same line, like would I notice them or are they similar enough to not matter that much? Id like to get the rp surrounds but I really don't want to spend over $200 on surrounds. Thanks
I don't have an RP440c, but everyone who has commented on theirs has liked it. I suspect all three centers sound pretty similar since none are designed to go very low. The R14's are probably a little brighter than the RP, but if you have Audyssey, it will probably EQ that out when you run it. If your surrounds aren't too close to your ears, you could just use bookshelves like the RP150 or RP160.

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I don't have an RP440c, but everyone who has commented on theirs has liked it. I suspect all three centers sound pretty similar since none are designed to go very low. The R14's are probably a little brighter than the RP, but if you have Audyssey, it will probably EQ that out when you run it. If your surrounds aren't too close to your ears, you could just use bookshelves like the RP150 or RP160.
They should play decently well to 80hz though right? I'll be crossing everything over to a sub. I'm just wondering because I know 4 inch woofers probably don't play as well to 80hz, but I was wondering if the large cabinet size and 4 woofers vs 2 helps it in this regard.
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