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What is the max continuous SPL and the max peak SPL of the RF-7 III?
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I tried searching old threads regarding the distance to wall for this center channel, so I'm sorry if I missed it.
I'm in the process of finishing my HT room build and getting ready for installing components and speakers. My component cabinet will not be ready for
another 6-7 months and I will be mounting the center channel under the TV on a pair of CC brackets or floating shelf of sorts to keep it clean as I can for now. What sort of space should I "try to keep" from the speaker and wall? or is this something that is personal preference and trial and error will tell me whats right?
Trial and error is best since all room acoustics are different. I would not think the center channel would have to be as far away from the wall as say a rear ported tower speaker since it's frequency range is likely higher in most cases. For what it's worth I have my 450c 10" inches from the wall to the back of the speaker. I hear no resonating sounds from the rear port of the 450c off the back wall, which is reflective drywall. This is not the case with my rp-280fa towers as they are 12" from the back wall. Any closer in my room and I hear the rear port resonating sound off the wall. One or two inches in placement really does MATTER!

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Well, just a follow up to my previous posts. It looks as if I want my K’horns refinished, I’m going to have to do something myself. I’ve contacted one cabinet maker and one furniture refinisher. After looking at detailed photos neither one are interested in the job. I’m surprised how hard it is to find anyone interested in veneer jobs when veneer seems so common and readily available. I guess it’s mainly for OEMs. Oh well, have to figure out where I’m going.
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Hi,

I need help to choose in celling surround speakers and subwoofer for my HT.
I bought PRO 250RPW for my LCR.

Which one will be better for surround?
CDT 5800C II
PRO 180RPC

or there is better option for celling speakers?

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What is the max continuous SPL and the max peak SPL of the RF-7 III?
There's probably info on the Klipsch forum about this. There are formulas on here also.
I will say they are world class speakers, and play above their price point.
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I tried searching old threads regarding the distance to wall for this center channel, so I'm sorry if I missed it.
I'm in the process of finishing my HT room build and getting ready for installing components and speakers. My component cabinet will not be ready for
another 6-7 months and I will be mounting the center channel under the TV on a pair of CC brackets or floating shelf of sorts to keep it clean as I can for now. What sort of space should I "try to keep" from the speaker and wall? or is this something that is personal preference and trial and error will tell me whats right?
Make sure the front of your center speaker is close to the front edge of the shelf or cabinet. You don't want the shelf interfering with the sound waves. I keep my cabinet as close to the wall as I can, with the center out at the front edge, I have about 6" between speaker and wall....my center is pretty deep.
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Well, just a follow up to my previous posts. It looks as if I want my K’horns refinished, I’m going to have to do something myself. I’ve contacted one cabinet maker and one furniture refinisher. After looking at detailed photos neither one are interested in the job. I’m surprised how hard it is to find anyone interested in veneer jobs when veneer seems so common and readily available. I guess it’s mainly for OEMs. Oh well, have to figure out where I’m going.
I'll bet it would get expensive also to have a pro rebuild them. Are you fairly handy? You might try to repair and veneer them yourself. Maybe practice a lot on another project. It would be very rewarding knowing you rebuilt your own speakers.

I have been looking for a speaker rebuilding project, thought I found some cheap La Scalas, but it didn't work out.
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I'll bet it would get expensive also to have a pro rebuild them. Are you fairly handy? You might try to repair and veneer them yourself. Maybe practice a lot on another project. It would be very rewarding knowing you rebuilt your own speakers.

I have been looking for a speaker rebuilding project, thought I found some cheap La Scalas, but it didn't work out.
I’ve done a variety of projects around the homestead so I could probably do this. To be honest, the main problem with doing it myself is that I know I will go very slowly and I really don’t want to be without our main source of entertainment for long. I figured a professional would be able to do it fairly quickly. I have to think about this a bit.
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I’ve done a variety of projects around the homestead so I could probably do this. To be honest, the main problem with doing it myself is that I know I will go very slowly and I really don’t want to be without our main source of entertainment for long. I figured a professional would be able to do it fairly quickly. I have to think about this a bit.
I can certainly understand that. Wonderful speakers.

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Trial and error is best since all room acoustics are different. I would not think the center channel would have to be as far away from the wall as say a rear ported tower speaker since it's frequency range is likely higher in most cases. For what it's worth I have my 450c 10" inches from the wall to the back of the speaker. I hear no resonating sounds from the rear port of the 450c off the back wall, which is reflective drywall. This is not the case with my rp-280fa towers as they are 12" from the back wall. Any closer in my room and I hear the rear port resonating sound off the wall. One or two inches in placement really does MATTER!
Its worth mentioning the xover point you are using. The lower the xover the more the port comes into play in lower frequencies. If you're using something such as 100hz xover you can put the speaker closer to the wall without issues.
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Its worth mentioning the xover point you are using. The lower the xover the more the port comes into play in lower frequencies. If you're using something such as 100hz xover you can put the speaker closer to the wall without issues.
It certainly is, good point! My experience is with the towers set to full range as I'm mostly 2ch music. When movie watching the center is set to 80hz.

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Just wondering if anyone has their speaker wiring running along the floor and if they use some type of conduit to hide it.
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Just wondering if anyone has their speaker wiring running along the floor and if they use some type of conduit to hide it.
I have used 2 methods for this. In places where it will not be in plain sight i haves used plain gray plastic conduit available from the big home improvement stores. Pretty inexpensive, and I have sanded and painted it in some instances to have it blend into the wall color. Same goes for the hardware to attach to the wall/baseboard.

Also at the home improvement stores, there are fake baseboards that look like the real thing, but they snap open and you can run several wires through them. A bit more expensive, but looks PERFECT when finished. And again, you can paint them any color you need.
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Do the horn speakers of the rp line have a wide soundstage or is it localizable? Ill be sitting about 6ft from most likely a rp 440c with a tv on top and wondering if it'll sound like the sound is coming from the tv or the speaker. I've never dealt with horn speakers before but have heard they're very directional. If I want the illusion that sound is coming from the tv and not localized to the center, would a horn or dome tweeter be better, or its about the same?
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Do the horn speakers of the rp line have a wide soundstage or is it localizable? Ill be sitting about 6ft from most likely a rp 440c with a tv on top and wondering if it'll sound like the sound is coming from the tv or the speaker. I've never dealt with horn speakers before but have heard they're very directional. If I want the illusion that sound is coming from the tv and not localized to the center, would a horn or dome tweeter be better, or its about the same?
It's a 90 X 90 horn. You be should be fine. My center is also horn loaded and it's right on top of the TV. I don't find it distracting at all.
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It's a 90 X 90 horn. You be should be fine. My center is also horn loaded and it's right on top of the TV. I don't find it distracting at all.
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Just wondering how well a RP404c or RP440c will match a pair of Klipsch RF-5's. I can't use any other Klipsch centers. I need something that will fit in my center rack space and the 404 or 440 are about it. I was thinking about getting RP8000f, RP440c and RP500SA's and selling the RF-5's but large speakers are a pain to sell and ship. So I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts of just matching the RF-5 with RP404c and RP140SA to save some money.

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Howdy, I'm new to the forum but I have quite a few questions. Top start of im trying to decide how the klipsch r-820f compare top the 280f. The specs seem extremely similar but im not familiar enough to know if im missing something. Im asking because the r820fs are on sale 2 for $450 and im leaning towards upgrading to these from the r26f. Any advice?
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Howdy, I'm new to the forum but I have quite a few questions. Top start of im trying to decide how the klipsch r-820f compare top the 280f. The specs seem extremely similar but im not familiar enough to know if im missing something. Im asking because the r820fs are on sale 2 for $450 and im leaning towards upgrading to these from the r26f. Any advice?
The RP series has less fatiguing high end and you will enjoy listening to them for longer periods of time. The RP-280F is on sale too but it is more expensive at $383 each. If you have a subwoofer then you could go with the RP-250F for $238 each so real close to price as the r-280f. Let your sub handle the low end. The RP-250F actually has the same low end specs as the r-280f at 35Hz at 3db down so a win win going with the RP-250F

Check it at Amazon or Klipsch site.

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-RP-25...lipsch+rp-250f

https://www.klipsch.com/products/ref...&model=rp-250f
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Just wondering how well a RP404c or RP440c will match a pair of Klipsch RF-5's. I can't use any other Klipsch centers. I need something that will fit in my center rack space and the 404 or 440 are about it. I was thinking about getting RP8000f, RP440c and RP500SA's and selling the RF-5's but large speakers are a pain to sell and ship. So I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts of just matching the RF-5 with RP404c and RP140SA to save some money.
I think you'll be ok. It might not be a perfect match, but after running some type of Audyssey, I think it will tame down any major imperfections. If you update your towers later, you'll be all set with a match. Let us know how it worked out.
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Howdy, I'm new to the forum but I have quite a few questions. Top start of im trying to decide how the klipsch r-820f compare top the 280f. The specs seem extremely similar but im not familiar enough to know if im missing something. Im asking because the r820fs are on sale 2 for $450 and im leaning towards upgrading to these from the r26f. Any advice?
R-820F is the lower end Best Buy model. The RP280F is the Reference Premier. The mainstream Klipsch enthusiasts line.
https://www.klipsch.com/blog/referen...the-difference
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280fs it is! I have another questions that touches on a concern I have with klipsch speakers. Now keep in mind, I'm not the most experienced klipsch owner. Stop I could be wrong in my assumption.

In July I upgraded my fluance bookshelves to the R-26Fs which were half off. After testing the speakers on a variety of movies and music I began noticing something. I've never had issues with high volumes in my theater room. But after, sometimes during, sessions with certain parts of movies I get this weird feeling. Not painful, but fairly uncomfortable. Like chewing foil almost, or the feeling after someone scratches a chalk board. It's tiresome...

Is this a klipsch thing? Never experienced this before getting these towers and would hate top purchase the rp280fs only to get more of that. Can anyone help me understand what's going on?
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Anyone go from a old pair of RF-5 towers to a newer RP8000? How's the difference in sound? Do the newer speakers sound better?

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280fs it is! I have another questions that touches on a concern I have with klipsch speakers. Now keep in mind, I'm not the most experienced klipsch owner. Stop I could be wrong in my assumption.

In July I upgraded my fluance bookshelves to the R-26Fs which were half off. After testing the speakers on a variety of movies and music I began noticing something. I've never had issues with high volumes in my theater room. But after, sometimes during, sessions with certain parts of movies I get this weird feeling. Not painful, but fairly uncomfortable. Like chewing foil almost, or the feeling after someone scratches a chalk board. It's tiresome...

Is this a klipsch thing? Never experienced this before getting these towers and would hate top purchase the rp280fs only to get more of that. Can anyone help me understand what's going on?
This would be referred to as listening fatigue. It effects some more readily than others and is an issue many folks have with horn loaded speakers. Because horns increase the efficiency of the HF driver as well as narrow the dispersion (compared to a standard dome tweeter) of that driver, they are putting more direct acoustic energy into the listening area while reducing the reflected energy in the listening area. As such they exhibit what some call a "forward" or "aggressive" sound signature. Klipsch have supposedly refined the horns and drivers in the new RP series, but not having heard them, I can't speak to the end result.



If you have manual control of your EQ settings, I'd recommend starting with some 3dB cuts between 1.6 kHz and 4-5 kHz to see if you can pinpoint the frequencies that you find most offensive. Once you find the offending frequency or frequencies, you should be able to tame some of that. YMMV. Not knowing what EQ capability you have at your disposal, this could be quite simple to do, or become a bit of a PITA. It's not necessarily a Klipsch thing, but a horn thing. There's no free lunch in audio. Horns provide high efficiency, pattern control and good transients, but that comes with compromises in timbre and voicing. Some horns are better then others. It'll be interesting to see what the new RPs have to offer once they've been on the market for a while and folks start posting opinions on them.

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Damn! RP280F's on sale for $383? That is a steal, and I wish I had a spare $766 for another pair...
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I found the RP-280FAs for $1000 Pair, what are your guy's thought on this.I'm really considering pulling the trigger on 4x of them for 2k.
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Could anyone please tell me what's the difference in terms of sound between RP-260f and the new RP-6000f?
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Looking to add a center channel speaker with RP-8000F towers (on order). I think this would normally mean go with the RP-504C. I have some decisions to make as far as install and setup. Would the RP-404C be fine with the towers?

The 404 would be about 5 in less in width than the 504, reducing the required width of the center console (not yet on order). However, understand the 404 has less performance than the 504 so looking for more information to help drive the trade off. Thoughts?
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Joining the klipsch owners in a few days. I ordered a pair of RP250s for my sides and staying with the 5” driver I ordered a pair of RP-150Ms for my rears. Should by in this Saturday.

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Joining the klipsch owners in a few days. I ordered a pair of RP250s for my sides and staying with the 5” driver I ordered a pair of RP-150Ms for my rears. Should by in this Saturday.

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Nice! I just upgraded from Polk to the RP-250F/RP-250C and have the RP-150Ms on order as well. Also ordered the SVS PB12 NSD sub from the Black Friday sale. Rounding things out with another pair of SVS prime elevations to go to 5.2.4 setup. My HT has never sounded better
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