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Joining the klipsch owners in a few days. I ordered a pair of RP250s for my sides and staying with the 5” driver I ordered a pair of RP-150Ms for my rears. Should by in this Saturday.

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Congrats! I'd recommend too that you look into the matching center too while they're still around. I know supplies are getting tight on the last gen. at most resellers.
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Speaking of the RP-250S surround speaker... I'm currently trying to decide between the new RP-502S and the 402S. These surround speakers will be close to the MLP (and very close to the end seats of the sofa), so I'm leaning towards the 402S. However, I can fit the 502S on my stands and I have the 5.25" woofers everywhere else (RP-250F, RP-450C, and RP-500SA up high on the back wall), so they would "fit in" better. I just don't know if it's worth the extra cost to go with the larger speaker that will be on surround duty so close to either side of my sofa.


Does anyone have any experience with either speaker (including the old 250S/240S) or have any thoughts on which to go with?


Here's a picture for reference. I got rid of the love seat, moved the sofa forward away from the back wall by over 2 ft., and the stands will essentially be following the sofa forward, spaced equidistant on either side and slightly behind the MLP. I decided to replace the 150M since I don't want a direct-firing speaker so close.
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Speaking of the RP-250S surround speaker... I'm currently trying to decide between the new RP-502S and the 402S. These surround speakers will be close to the MLP (and very close to the end seats of the sofa), so I'm leaning towards the 402S. However, I can fit the 502S on my stands and I have the 5.25" woofers everywhere else (RP-250F, RP-450C, and RP-500SA up high on the back wall), so they would "fit in" better. I just don't know if it's worth the extra cost to go with the larger speaker that will be on surround duty so close to either side of my sofa.


Does anyone have any experience with either speaker (including the old 250S/240S) or have any thoughts on which to go with?


Here's a picture for reference. I got rid of the love seat, moved the sofa forward away from the back wall by over 2 ft., and the stands will essentially be following the sofa forward, spaced equidistant on either side and slightly behind the MLP. I decided to replace the 150M since I don't want a direct-firing speaker so close.

Are you planning on going atmos? If so, direct firing is preferred according to dolby specs. You could have your speakers fire at other end of couch to make them less localizable if needed.

Another thing that caught my attention is the Carolina Panther's on the wall.....are you in Charlotte area?
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Are you planning on going atmos? If so, direct firing is preferred according to dolby specs. You could have your speakers fire at other end of couch to make them less localizable if needed.

Another thing that caught my attention is the Carolina Panther's on the wall.....are you in Charlotte area?
I am planning on going atmos (5.1.2) with the RP-500SA mounted at the top of the back wall just beneath the soffit. With the angle those speakers fire, I'm planning on assigning them as top middle speakers. The center sofa seat is actually center of the screen since there is a storage closet at the opposite end of the room which shifts everything. Therefore, I was thinking of brining the stands forward, away from the back wall since those 150M bookshelves would be so close to the RP-500SA. I'd then want something a little less localizable next to the sofa like that. Hopefully I could still discern the sound coming from above/behind from the 500SA speakers.


I'm actually in the Philly area. It's a dumb story, but I've been a fan of the Panthers ever since I was 10-years-old when they entered the league in 1995. Sunday's game was brutal to watch.
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Sunday's game was brutal to watch.[/B]
Agreed! And I’m in Michigan! Lion’s didn’t win it, Panthers lost it!

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Congrats! I'd recommend too that you look into the matching center too while they're still around. I know supplies are getting tight on the last gen. at most resellers.
Thanks I am looking at the RF 7lll for across the front if I go that way. I already have the svs ultra 16sb I want to add another one also some in ceiling for atmos.
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Thanks I am looking at the RF 7lll for across the front if I go that way. I already have the svs ultra 16sb I want to add another one also some in ceiling for atmos.
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Ah, I misread you post the other day. I missed that you got the RP250s for sides. I saw the model and assumed fronts. The RF-7IIIs are great. I have them along with the matching RC-64III for my fronts. You'll love them.
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Ah, I misread you post the other day. I missed that you got the RP250s for sides. I saw the model and assumed fronts. The RF-7IIIs are great. I have them along with the matching RC-64III for my fronts. You'll love them.
Do you have a screen or a tv? I have a screen the center will go behind so most people tell me to use 3 Rf 7s across the front what are your thoughts?
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Do you have a screen or a tv? I have a screen the center will go behind so most people tell me to use 3 Rf 7s across the front what are your thoughts?
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If you have an AT (acoustically transparent) screen, conventional wisdom suggests having 3 identical speakers for perfectly matched timbre and imaging for the front stage...so yes 3 RF 7III’s would be ideal...many have done so.

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Do you have a screen or a tv? I have a screen the center will go behind so most people tell me to use 3 Rf 7s across the front what are your thoughts?
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I'm using a TV right now. A PJ is the next big item on my list. I went crazy the last 6 months on audio with getting the new fronts, AVR, subs, and last weekend I installed six Atmos speakers. So it's now time to save up for one of the new JVC 4k projectors.

If you have an AT screen and no TV you can go either way. Using a 3rd RF-7III will give you perfectly matched across all three. The rc-64III is pretty much matched to them too. Klipsch designed it to be the center for them. So to be it's a bit of six of one, half a dozen of the other and comes down to preference and if your set-up (mainly screen) will allow for the 3rd rf-7.
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Yea my next few things before I get the speakers are some room improvements the foam sounding pads on my front wall around my screen and behind my screen.
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Hi. In my medium size (I think) living room of 19*9*9 feet (having hard tiled floor, concrete walls and ceiling typical Indian) I have Wharfedale Diamond 220 LCR driven by Yamaha RXV677 AVR. Also has SVS Pb 1000 sub. Presently the listening distance is 8 feet which shall be 15 feet after re-arranging it. Surrounds are old Sony HiFi Bookshelf (16-32 ohm) for the timebeing. I want to upgrade Centre for dialogue clarity. I am considering SVS Prime or Klipsch RP250c (higher price than Svs even after discount). In India both cost 50% more (Klipsch even more than that) than in US. May upgrade the LR also in future if required (not bothered about timbre matching presently).
   My problem is I am very sensitive to sound of Cymbals and bigger bells in temples. I can not stand their lound sound even for few seconds.
So shall these speakers with Metal Twitters be shrill or bright at moderate volume in untreated room. When I demoed  Klipsch RP  (some floorstander, RP 160, 450C) in fully treated theatre room, I felt sound of swords a bit bright. Do my system and room size need very sensitive speakers like Klipsch for moderate volume say 50-70% of full volume of Avr?
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Yea my next few things before I get the speakers are some room improvements the foam sounding pads on my front wall around my screen and behind my screen.
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Just to be clear, if you're having the speakers behind the screen, the screen needs to be acoustically transparent. Some screens are and some aren't. I wanted to make sure you didn't have that mixed up with the room treatments.

As for the room treatments, don't do foam pads. They're over priced and don't work great for what's usually needed. If you're handy at all look into DYI acoustic panels. They're really easy to make. Basically you buy batts of Roxul Safe and Sound (usually Home Depot or Lowes as them), build a simple frame around them, and then wrap in fabric. There's a ton of videos on youtube for them. I made a bunch of them for my room along with super chunk base traps and it they made a big difference.
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Just to be clear, if you're having the speakers behind the screen, the screen needs to be acoustically transparent. Some screens are and some aren't. I wanted to make sure you didn't have that mixed up with the room treatments.

As for the room treatments, don't do foam pads. They're over priced and don't work great for what's usually needed. If you're handy at all look into DYI acoustic panels. They're really easy to make. Basically you buy batts of Roxul Safe and Sound (usually Home Depot or Lowes as them), build a simple frame around them, and then wrap in fabric. There's a ton of videos on youtube for them. I made a bunch of them for my room along with super chunk base traps and it they made a big difference.
Thanks custom size panels will help cover up my fram work. Time is my only problem in building my on.
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Question I am going to use the rp 150 as my rears do you have to use the bottom plate on those? If I don’t have to use the bottom plates then I want to order some 32” speaker stands which will put the speaker height at 46”s. If you have to use them then I will get 28” stands because the base puts them in and upward angle. What are y’alls thoughts.
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What sort of price is realistic these days (new) for a 7.2 Ultra2 setup?
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I got some new photos up in my build thread!!! Almost there - just need to install the acoustic panels and finish up with the surrounds, and we are ready for our first movie!

Those RS-62 II Surrounds are huge in my room. I was almost, "almost", thinking of selling them and getting some smaller RS-52 or 42's, but hey, I'm from Texas where everything is better when it's bigger!

I'm ready for my first Atmos experience!
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I got some new photos up in my build thread!!! Almost there - just need to install the acoustic panels and finish up with the surrounds, and we are ready for our first movie!

Those RS-62 II Surrounds are huge in my room. I was almost, "almost", thinking of selling them and getting some smaller RS-52 or 42's, but hey, I'm from Texas where everything is better when it's bigger!

I'm ready for my first Atmos experience!
You have RF-7s and you're saying the RS-62s are too big???

Congrats on the room. It looks good. You'll love Atmos. I just installed mine last weekend and it's been great. Pick up the Harry Potter series in DTS:X and Matrix series in Atmos that came out a month ago. Both take amazing advantage of atmos and give a really immersive experience. I'd also recommend BEQing them. Harry Potter was like watching it for the first time. For some reason I have a hunch you'll like it.
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You have RF-7s and you're saying the RS-62s are too big???

Congrats on the room. It looks good. You'll love Atmos. I just installed mine last weekend and it's been great. Pick up the Harry Potter series in DTS:X and Matrix series in Atmos that came out a month ago. Both take amazing advantage of atmos and give a really immersive experience. I'd also recommend BEQing them. Harry Potter was like watching it for the first time. For some reason I have a hunch you'll like it.
Lol, the RF-7’s are large too, but the surrounds just stuck out to me.

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I have a set of Monitor Audio radius 270 with the 250 center channel and I recently purchased 2 Klipsch 10" wireless subs becuse they were on sale and I needed some base. Well Im looking at the Klipsch sale and thinking about upgrading my front 3 speakers (5.2 setup) and I was wondering would the RP-250f and the 440 center be an up grade to what I have or would it be better going with the 260's and the 440's?

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Lol, the RF-7’s are large too, but the surrounds just stuck out to me.

I have the Harry Potter series on UHD and the first Matrix. I’m definitely ready to watch all of thr Harry Potter movies! I’ve had them for a year and never popped one in. Now that I can watch a movie anytime, I will take advantage. I foresee many a Saturday watching a movie while I drink my coffee.
Good job holding off on them. It'll be worth the wait. I did the same thing and I'm really happy I did. I hadn't watched any of them in a few years and it was even longer for the early ones. Watching them now it's really like watching it for the first time again. I watched Goblet of Fire last night and it had a great atmos track too.

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I have a set of Monitor Audio radius 270 with the 250 center channel and I recently purchased 2 Klipsch 10" wireless subs becuse they were on sale and I needed some base. Well Im looking at the Klipsch sale and thinking about upgrading my front 3 speakers (5.2 setup) and I was wondering would the RP-250f and the 440 center be an up grade to what I have or would it be better going with the 260's and the 440's?
I would consider their the 250s or the 260s a nice upgrade over the Radius 270s. Between the two Klipsch I'd go with he 260s over the 250s if you can. I'd also say look into the RP-280Fs. With the close out pricing going on with them you might be able to snag the pair for around $100 total more than the 260s. Definitely get the 440 at the same time though. Stock is getting low on all the models and you don't want to risk not being able to match it in the future.
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Only one of my RP-250s came in.
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Speaking of the RP-250S surround speaker... I'm currently trying to decide between the new RP-502S and the 402S. These surround speakers will be close to the MLP (and very close to the end seats of the sofa), so I'm leaning towards the 402S. However, I can fit the 502S on my stands and I have the 5.25" woofers everywhere else (RP-250F, RP-450C, and RP-500SA up high on the back wall), so they would "fit in" better. I just don't know if it's worth the extra cost to go with the larger speaker that will be on surround duty so close to either side of my sofa.


Does anyone have any experience with either speaker (including the old 250S/240S) or have any thoughts on which to go with?


Here's a picture for reference. I got rid of the love seat, moved the sofa forward away from the back wall by over 2 ft., and the stands will essentially be following the sofa forward, spaced equidistant on either side and slightly behind the MLP. I decided to replace the 150M since I don't want a direct-firing speaker so close.
What stands are those?
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I bought RP-450C ($399) and rp-500SA ($319) on deals. Now i'm looking to replace my front speakers with RP-280F OR RP-8000F. Which one will be better. my receiver is a NR656 which i'm planning to replace that as well with Yamaha 3070? Is that overkill for a dolby atmos setup?

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I bought RP-450C ($399) and rp-500SA ($319) on deals. Now i'm looking to replace my front speakers with RP-280F OR RP-8000F. Which one will be better. my receiver is a NR656 which i'm planning to replace that as well with Yamaha 3070? Is that overkill for a dolby atmos setup?
I'd go with the the RP-280F since you already have the matching RP-450C. You'll also save a decent amount of change right now over the RP-8000F and the difference isn't that great.

The Yamaha isn't over kill being only 9 channels. That'll limit you to either 5.x.4 or 7.x.2 which is pretty much a minimum for atmos. When you go to buy see if there are any good deals around on an 11 channel AVR so you can do either either 5.x.6 or 7.x.4.
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I bought RP-450C ($399) and rp-500SA ($319) on deals. Now i'm looking to replace my front speakers with RP-280F OR RP-8000F. Which one will be better. my receiver is a NR656 which i'm planning to replace that as well with Yamaha 3070? Is that overkill for a dolby atmos setup?

The RP-8000F would match your set better. Same vented Ti tweeter design. And really, who doesn't love having the new fancy model?
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I'd go with the the RP-280F since you already have the matching RP-450C. You'll also save a decent amount of change right now over the RP-8000F and the difference isn't that great.

The Yamaha isn't over kill being only 9 channels. That'll limit you to either 5.x.4 or 7.x.2 which is pretty much a minimum for atmos. When you go to buy see if there are any good deals around on an 11 channel AVR so you can do either either 5.x.6 or 7.x.4.

Thanks for the tip, especially on the receiver advice, i thought Yamaha 3080 support 4 Dolby height speakers. So with Yamaha 3080/3070 only support 2 height speakers, not 4.

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Thanks for the tip, especially on the receiver advice, i thought Yamaha 3080 support 4 Dolby height speakers. So with Yamaha 3080/3070 only support 2 height speakers, not 4.
It looks like the Yamaha only has nine amps, but processes 11 channels which means you'll need to buy a cheap stereo amp to power the other two.

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Thanks for the tip, especially on the receiver advice, i thought Yamaha 3080 support 4 Dolby height speakers. So with Yamaha 3080/3070 only support 2 height speakers, not 4.
It will support 4 height speakers but only with a 5 speaker base layer out of the box. It does have 11 channel processing that will give you a 7.x.4 setup but that requires a separate 2 channel amp. The AVR itself only has a 9 channel amp. It's one of those finer print things to watch out for. Other AVRs are similar with 11 or 13 channels of processing but then only 9 or 11 channel amp.
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