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Yes..however, for movie ambient effects found in side surrounds, any differences are likely negligible



Yep agree, I would likely do the same....

https://www.klipsch.com/products/pro...n-wall-speaker



Within the same "line," my assumption is there would be no technological differences...other than adapting the framework to the respective mounting locations.
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those are expensive. do you think they are worth the money over the Polk Audio RC85i?
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@velocci by way of this post, I have asked @darthray to provide a recommended Canadian Klipsch dealer who might be helpful to you. Good luck in your search!

Finally found that speaker


Here's a link for the one I found;
https://www.electronicsforless.ca/kl...hite-8536.html


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Free shipping in Canada, and in CDN pesos.
Not sure if it is a big discount price, but you know what you pay in advance.


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Finally found that speaker


Here's a link for the one I found;
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Thanks Ray...very much appreciated!
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Thanks Ray...very much appreciated!

More than welcome Gene, just hope it help the OP for reputable place to buy on line.


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It'a a real shame a US Klipsch dealer can't sell to Canada.
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Finally found that speaker


Here's a link for the one I found;
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Free shipping in Canada, and in CDN pesos.
Not sure if it is a big discount price, but you know what you pay in advance.


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Thanks Ray. I seen that site and bought my sub from there. Maybe I'll wait till it goes on sale. I was leaning towards the Polks, but if I can get the Pro180RPW for less, I'd prefer those. Not sure if they are overkill though. I agree that there isn't a lot of content coming from the surrounds and rears, but I do tend to raise their volume by alot and want speakers that can handle it. so I'd rather over spend than under spend and regret it.
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Thanks Ray. I seen that site and bought my sub from there. Maybe I'll wait till it goes on sale. I was leaning towards the Polks, but if I can get the Pro180RPW for less, I'd prefer those. Not sure if they are overkill though. I agree that there isn't a lot of content coming from the surrounds and rears, but I do tend to raise their volume by alot and want speakers that can handle it. so I'd rather over spend than under spend and regret it.
While I would love to provide more help.

I cannot offer any good advise, since I do not follow any of those two brands.
However, since in my life did many upgrades, mostly by rushing into it.
I can say that often, you end-up regretting a purchase. Try to resell-it, and sometime end-up just collecting dust.

My suggestion would be to get the Pro180RPW. Even if it will take you a while longer to get, since these are the ones you really want.


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Hi All

Moving into a new house in the near future and have a room roughly 480sq feet with 9 foot ceilings. Looking to get new speakers for this area and have looked at the RP-6000F for LR, RP-404C for center and RP-500M for the 2 rears. I currently have a Denon AVR-S510BT that I was hoping to use with these. The receiver lists 70W output per channel. My questions are will this receiver be enough to adequately power these? Also will these selections be "overkill" for a room this size?

Thanks!
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My suggestion would be to get the Pro180RPW. Even if it will take you a while longer to get, since these are the ones you really want.


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just cause I want them, it doesn't necessarily mean its a smart buy. not sure if the polks can handle the extra volume I will put on them and if it really makes a difference anyways since they only get ambient sounds.

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Hi all,

I posted a few pages back and everyone was helpful.

This is what was suggested for my room by the sales guys at the retailer I've been to:

1pr Klipsch RP-6000F Floorstanding Speakers (RRP $2499)
1 x Klipsch RP-504C Centre Speaker (RRP $1599)
1pr Klipsch RP-502S Surround Speakers (RRP $1999)

The installer came out to quote on install today (this is also for projector, cabling, screen, amp, etc).

He actually said that for my room size, shape and seating location, he would instead put floor standers at the back rather than the RP-502S on the side wall in line with seating, because a) it will give a better sound and b) can then angle/move the rear floor speakers if required.

My question is, what is the better match with my fronts?

Klipsch R-820F - earlier series
or
Klipsch RP-5000s which sticks with the same series

The R-820Fs are $200 cheaper (I am in Australia) but it's not a huge saving.

Thanks!
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Hi all, which Klipsch in-wall speakers would go best with my RP-280f? I need 4 of them, two for the surrounds and two for the rears to complete my 7.1 setup. See my signature for my basement HT which is where these would go in. my basement is big so I would be raising the volume on these in-walls so they can keep up with the fronts. I will be using these for mainly movies. Another question is that when I research the top in-wall speakers, the ones that seem to be at the top are using the Polk Audio RC85i. not sure why though. do you think they would be better than the klipsch?
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just cause I want them, it doesn't necessarily mean its a smart buy. not sure if the polks can handle the extra volume I will put on them and if it really makes a difference anyways since they only get ambient sounds.
I think you're under the impression that your side and rear surrounds need to "keep up" with the L,C,R's. For movies, this is just not the case as the demands for the side surrounds are significantly less and for the rear surrounds...substantially less. My basement HT is 4800cf and even when approaching reference volume, my inexpensive Atmos speakers rated at 100 watts have no problem "keeping up." I believe the Polk RC85i and the Klipsch R-5800-W II are both rated around 100 watts and more than capable of handling all the surround duties and content you throw at them. Unless you are OCD and/or don't mind spending the $$$, I personally would not even consider the Klipsch Pro-180RPW as it would be overkill and overpriced for the application. My unequivocal choice would be the Klipsch -5800-W II. Spend the extra $$$ elsewhere in your system where it will result in real audible/discernible improvement(s). Again, while engrossed in a movie, you will not be able to distinguish which speaker's surround effects you are listening to. Good luck with your decision!
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Moving into a new house in the near future and have a room roughly 480sq feet with 9 foot ceilings. Looking to get new speakers for this area and have looked at the RP-6000F for LR, RP-404C for center and RP-500M for the 2 rears. I currently have a Denon AVR-S510BT that I was hoping to use with these. The receiver lists 70W output per channel. My questions are will this receiver be enough to adequately power these? Also will these selections be "overkill" for a room this size?

Thanks!
That will be a very nice home theater speaker package, and it will definitely not be overkill. I noticed you didn't list any subwoofer. A sub (or two) would definitely help in a room that size. Depending on how loud you like the movies, that Denon should be ok.

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Moving into a new house in the near future and have a room roughly 480sq feet with 9 foot ceilings. Looking to get new speakers for this area and have looked at the RP-6000F for LR, RP-404C for center and RP-500M for the 2 rears. I currently have a Denon AVR-S510BT that I was hoping to use with these. The receiver lists 70W output per channel. My questions are will this receiver be enough to adequately power these? Also will these selections be "overkill" for a room this size?

Thanks!
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That will be a very nice home theater speaker package, and it will definitely not be overkill. I noticed you didn't list any subwoofer. A sub (or two) would definitely help in a room that size. Depending on how loud you like the movies, that Denon should be ok.
I'm in agreement with ceptorman...a very nice system! And because Klipsch is one of the more efficient speaker brands, the Denon 510 rated at 70wpc will have no problem driving your speakers...even in your very large 4300cf space. Generally speaking, the majority of the time, it only takes 10-20 continuous watts to drive most speakers to normal listening levels...any additional power requirements come into play only when there are large demand peaks or bursts...and these are only momentary.

There is an old adage or conventional wisdom shared in these threads: The greater portion of your budget should be allocated to speakers as speaker technology changes little and holds value very well over time. In contrast, electronics change constantly, often, and looses value quickly. It appears you've made an excellent choice/decisions with the RP-6000F, RP-404C, and RP-500M

Regarding your AVR: It is considered an entry level unit but more than adequate to drive your choosen speakers. There are, however, at least two reasons you may want to consider an upgrade in the future: (1) you decide to go beyond its 5 channel limit to 7, 9, 11, or more channels to accommodate additional speakers for 3D sound...i.e. Atmos/DTS:X/Auro or (2) you want to drive your speakers to "very" loud levels w/o distortion...but this is a different discussion for the appropriate thread.

Lastly, I will once again as I often do, agree with ceptorman! If you're primarily a movie person, a subwoofer is an absolute must and should be your next priority! And if you continue to visit this forum, your future funds are already allocated...you just don't know it yet! Good luck moving forward!
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Hi all,

I posted a few pages back and everyone was helpful.

This is what was suggested for my room by the sales guys at the retailer I've been to:

1pr Klipsch RP-6000F Floorstanding Speakers (RRP $2499)
1 x Klipsch RP-504C Centre Speaker (RRP $1599)
1pr Klipsch RP-502S Surround Speakers (RRP $1999)

The installer came out to quote on install today (this is also for projector, cabling, screen, amp, etc).

He actually said that for my room size, shape and seating location, he would instead put floor standers at the back rather than the RP-502S on the side wall in line with seating, because a) it will give a better sound and b) can then angle/move the rear floor speakers if required.

My question is, what is the better match with my fronts?

Klipsch R-820F - earlier series
or
Klipsch RP-5000s which sticks with the same series

The R-820Fs are $200 cheaper (I am in Australia) but it's not a huge saving.

Thanks!
Firstly, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Your installer may be speaking from a music (multi or all channel) rather than an HT perspective. IMO from an HT perspective, (1) side surrounds have a far greater performance importance than do rear surrounds - it would be a mistake to install rear surrounds in lieu of side surrounds (2) floorstanders "for HT" rear surrounds are an "extreme" overkill (from a performance as well as expense perspective) as there is, relatively speaking, very little content directed to the rears (2) why take up floor real estate for rears when wall speakers will perform equally well (3) no need to reposition rears - they're there just for some subtle ambience cues (4) if floorstanding rears outperformed wall mounted rears, the majority of enthusiasts would have them - I don't recall HToTM or $50,000+ HT's with floorstanding rears. Although I have seen floorstanding rears, most were for bragging rights or just because...because of unlimited budgets...not for performance reasons. Lastly, if funds are unlimited, the funds would be better spent on something that would return more value/performance...i.e.possibly upgrading the PB-2000's to PB-3000's or PB-4000's. As always, YMMV and this is just my .02. Good luck moving forward with your decision!

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I've read in posts elsewhere that you can get these substantially discounted. Is there a go to dealer here on the forum people use? Thanks.
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Firstly, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Your installer may be speaking from a music (multi or all channel) rather than an HT perspective. IMO from an HT perspective, (1) side surrounds have a far greater performance importance than do rear surrounds - it would be a mistake to install rear surrounds in lieu of side surrounds (2) floorstanders "for HT" rear surrounds are an "extreme" overkill (from a performance as well as expense perspective) as there is, relatively speaking, very little content directed to the rears (2) why take up floor real estate for rears when wall speakers will perform equally well (3) no need to reposition rears - they're there just for some subtle ambience cues (4) if floorstanding rears outperformed wall mounted rears, the majority of enthusiasts would have them - I don't recall HToTM or $50,000+ HT's with floorstanding rears. Although I have seen floorstanding rears, most were for bragging rights or just because...because of unlimited budgets...not for performance reasons. Lastly, if funds are unlimited, the funds would be better spent on something that would return more value/performance...i.e.possibly upgrading the PB-2000's to PB-3000's or PB-4000's. As always, YMMV and this is just my .02. Good luck moving forward with your decision!
No - he said this is what he has at home in his home theatre and it 'sounds amazing'.

Real estate is not an issue now that we have the couch 1m from the rear, there's a bunch of empty space back there. We have 9ft ceilings so I think the distance to rear Atmos is ok.

Funds are not unlimited, they are the same price as the RP-502Ss.

Anyway I do appreciate your comments and will have to weigh everything up.

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No - he said this is what he has at home in his home theatre and it 'sounds amazing'.

Real estate is not an issue now that we have the couch 1m from the rear, there's a bunch of empty space back there. We have 9ft ceilings so I think the distance to rear Atmos is ok.

Funds are not unlimited, they are the same price as the RP-502Ss.

Anyway I do appreciate your comments and will have to weigh everything up.
I will add that I completely disagree with gene4ht.

I have RF-82s for the fronts and the rear surrounds (custom setup, not wanting to get into it, but it has NOTHING to do with bragging or overkill, as it "has" to be this way for my setup) and on certain movies (Battleship for example) the rears are very much just as important as any other "floor-level" speaker in a surround setup. I say "floor-level" since it is obvious that ATMOS or "top" speakers are not the same, in that they are very much "ambiance" speakers more than main-content.

I have a pair of RS-42s as side surrounds and I am seriously considering using an extra pair of RF-62s I have for side surrounds. I may just set it up that way to experiment a bit. (I am "stuck" with the RS-42s for now since I have all Ref-IV speakers and I have yet to find a decent pair of Ref-IV RS-52s or RS-62s for a decent price, but I have on hand Ref-IV RB-51s and RB-61s as well so I can experiment a bit). But, honestly, I have not found the RS-42s "lacking" in that they sound great, so experimenting with the RF-62s should be quite interesting.

In certain movies there is an amazing amount of "full-bodied" content in the rear surrounds. John Wick is another such title.
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I will add that I completely disagree with gene4ht.

I have RF-82s for the fronts and the rear surrounds (custom setup, not wanting to get into it, but it has NOTHING to do with bragging or overkill, as it "has" to be this way for my setup) and on certain movies (Battleship for example) the rears are very much just as important as any other "floor-level" speaker in a surround setup. I say "floor-level" since it is obvious that ATMOS or "top" speakers are not the same, in that they are very much "ambiance" speakers more than main-content.

I have a pair of RS-42s as side surrounds and I am seriously considering using an extra pair of RF-62s I have for side surrounds. I may just set it up that way to experiment a bit. (I am "stuck" with the RS-42s for now since I have all Ref-IV speakers and I have yet to find a decent pair of Ref-IV RS-52s or RS-62s for a decent price, but I have on hand Ref-IV RB-51s and RB-61s as well so I can experiment a bit). But, honestly, I have not found the RS-42s "lacking" in that they sound great, so experimenting with the RF-62s should be quite interesting.

In certain movies there is an amazing amount of "full-bodied" content in the rear surrounds. John Wick is another such title.
Thanks for this. So you have a 7.1 (with Atmos) - I will only have 5.1.4 -> do you think it's still ok to have rear floorstanders in that scenario, ie: where there are then no sides at all? Keeping in mind I can place the rear floorstanders anywhere - in the corner, back sides, completely at the back, etc.

My only concern is for when we choose a lounge suite the rear tweeters will need to be above the back of the couch, depending on how high the couch is which is TBA. For a normal couch they definitely would buy for a set of 4 recliners, if they weren't 'reclined' - might be pushing it. Guess I need to take some measurements (I have 2 lounge suites in mind).

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Yeah, my setup is a 7.2.4 configuration with 4 ATMOS speakers in-ceiling configured as "top front" and "top rear".

For your config the big issue is blocking the sound coming from the tweeters. That is why for those setups a "non-traditional" setup putting the speakers up higher (which isn't as much of a crime as many make it out to be) would be better. Just don't plan on putting them all the way up at the ceiling. I think that is where a lot of people get less than optimal results, in that they try to hide all the speakers in-ceiling, or they put certain locations up far too high for aesthetic purposes.

Basically, my view is that for a dedicated "space" you try to make it look as "nice" as possible, but it is all function over form for the most part. For a location that is "shared use" such as a high-traffic family room, then it is all about compromises.

For me, mine is a dedicated "space" so it is all about how good it can perform.
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I will add that I completely disagree with gene4ht.

I have RF-82s for the fronts and the rear surrounds (custom setup, not wanting to get into it, but it has NOTHING to do with bragging or overkill, as it "has" to be this way for my setup) and on certain movies (Battleship for example) the rears are very much just as important as any other "floor-level" speaker in a surround setup. I say "floor-level" since it is obvious that ATMOS or "top" speakers are not the same, in that they are very much "ambiance" speakers more than main-content.

I have a pair of RS-42s as side surrounds and I am seriously considering using an extra pair of RF-62s I have for side surrounds. I may just set it up that way to experiment a bit. (I am "stuck" with the RS-42s for now since I have all Ref-IV speakers and I have yet to find a decent pair of Ref-IV RS-52s or RS-62s for a decent price, but I have on hand Ref-IV RB-51s and RB-61s as well so I can experiment a bit). But, honestly, I have not found the RS-42s "lacking" in that they sound great, so experimenting with the RF-62s should be quite interesting.

In certain movies there is an amazing amount of "full-bodied" content in the rear surrounds. John Wick is another such title.
What you using as center?

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What you using as center?
I have a Ref-IV RC-62 as center. The in-ceiling speakers are Monoprice Caliber 8" coaxes. I had a friend bring over a RC-64 and didn't feel the tweeter matched well enough with the RF-82s. If I had RF-7s or RF-83s I would opt for the RC-64 to match them.

The receiver is a Pioneer VSX-LX503 11.2 channel with an Onkyo M-282 2-channel to drive the rear channels. Front left, center, front right, left/right surround and all 4 ATMOS in-ceiling speakers are driven off the VSX-LX503. Wiring is all 14-gauge in-wall Monoprice CL2 wire, with Monster wire for all jumpers between the receiver and wall mounted banana jacks.

I will start a thread for my build, which is pretty unique as I had to build some equipment to make it all happen, but I figure a bunch of pictures really aren't what this thread needs.
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@cindernat - I would definitely go with the towers for the *side* surrounds. They will technically be a little behind you but they're still side surrounds in 5.x.x setup. Since you have the floor space, they'll be easier to position rather than fiddling with angling wall mounts. Also, today's surround sound technology is more aimed at discrete channels, whereas the "surround" bi-pole speakers (which the Klipsch essentially are) are a carry-over from past tech. Especially if you're going for Atmos, I wouldn't use a bi-pole speaker... but it's not like it would ruin anything. Just less ideal.

And to answer your question, you definitely don't want the R-820F.. those are the lower line of speakers. Stick with Reference Premiere. I'd go with the smallest tower possible.. the RP-4000F. Slightly smaller footprint so it won't attract as much attention and they'll be plenty sufficient for surround duty.
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I am more than ready to upgrade my Klipsch surrounds. I knew the Synergys were my weakest link when I bought them but finance dictated more than I would like to admit. I would like to find 4 RS62's but that is appearing harder than anticipated which leaves RP-250S or RP-502S. The questions are, Would any of these choices not work well with what I got? Should I continue to wait for some RS-62's to appear? A different route altogether?

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I posted earlier looking for dealer leads. I understand from previous threads Klipsch speakers are priced pretty aggressively. Im getting ready to build a new HT in my new home and leaning heavily towards Klipsch Ultra. If anybody knows dealers who price aggressively shoot me a message. Thanks.
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Yeah, my setup is a 7.2.4 configuration with 4 ATMOS speakers in-ceiling configured as "top front" and "top rear".

For your config the big issue is blocking the sound coming from the tweeters. That is why for those setups a "non-traditional" setup putting the speakers up higher (which isn't as much of a crime as many make it out to be) would be better. Just don't plan on putting them all the way up at the ceiling. I think that is where a lot of people get less than optimal results, in that they try to hide all the speakers in-ceiling, or they put certain locations up far too high for aesthetic purposes.

Basically, my view is that for a dedicated "space" you try to make it look as "nice" as possible, but it is all function over form for the most part. For a location that is "shared use" such as a high-traffic family room, then it is all about compromises.

For me, mine is a dedicated "space" so it is all about how good it can perform.
Mine is also a dedicated space and fully darkened. The space behind the couch, no one would (or should!) be walking behind there so floor standers should be no issue. I'm with you, function over form, but I'd prefer not to have exposed wiring (and won't in this scenario - wall mounted is a little more tricky as this room is on bottom floor - we have access under house to run wires).

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@cindernat - I would definitely go with the towers for the *side* surrounds. They will technically be a little behind you but they're still side surrounds in 5.x.x setup. Since you have the floor space, they'll be easier to position rather than fiddling with angling wall mounts. Also, today's surround sound technology is more aimed at discrete channels, whereas the "surround" bi-pole speakers (which the Klipsch essentially are) are a carry-over from past tech. Especially if you're going for Atmos, I wouldn't use a bi-pole speaker... but it's not like it would ruin anything. Just less ideal.

And to answer your question, you definitely don't want the R-820F.. those are the lower line of speakers. Stick with Reference Premiere. I'd go with the smallest tower possible.. the RP-4000F. Slightly smaller footprint so it won't attract as much attention and they'll be plenty sufficient for surround duty.
Totally agree. I think the decision is made. I chose the RF-5000s, only because I am hoping the height will be enough to reach over back of couches (need to do some measurements to confirm).

Just need to decide on correct placement of them, should they be at rear or on side toward rear? I'm getting told elsewhere that in a 5.1 system, you have SIDE surrounds and you don't have rear, and rear cannot replace sides.

Thanks for everyone's help.

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Mine is also a dedicated space and fully darkened. The space behind the couch, no one would (or should!) be walking behind there so floor standers should be no issue. I'm with you, function over form, but I'd prefer not to have exposed wiring (and won't in this scenario - wall mounted is a little more tricky as this room is on bottom floor - we have access under house to run wires).







Totally agree. I think the decision is made. I chose the RF-5000s, only because I am hoping the height will be enough to reach over back of couches (need to do some measurements to confirm).



Thanks for everyone's help.
I've got RP-260F as surrounds. Great choice to go with towers u 2
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Hi guys, just got a pair of RP-280FA and RP-250S recently with denon 3300.

Looking for a good center to go with this combination. Initially was planning to go with RP-450C but it is either out of stock or at a similar price to RP-504c. Avoiding the subwoofer as I live in a townhouse. Maybe I will get a small one eventually.

My concern is that I have been reading a lot about the importance of a matching center. So if I go with the updated RP-504C, will that be okay? Or should I stick to finding a 450c, maybe used.
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Hi,
I recently bought a pair of RP-160M Premier 1 as front speakers in my 5.1 setup. My center and surround speakers are Dali Concept 1. AVR is an old NAD T744.
I am really happy with the new fronts but i noticed my center now is very low compared to the sound effects coming from the fronts. The sound is very unbalanced. I have calibrated all speaker levels to 75db with my SPL and speaker distance, but it still does not sound good.
Could the problem be that my Dali center have a db sensitivity at 91db and the new Klipsch fronts have 96db? Would a new Klipsch center with 96db sensitivity solve this unbalance between fronts and center? Or can I just increase the speaker level on my Dali center with 5db?

I hope someone can help me out. Thanks.
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Just need to decide on correct placement of them, should they be at rear or on side toward rear? I'm getting told elsewhere that in a 5.1 system, you have SIDE surrounds and you don't have rear, and rear cannot replace sides.
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