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How did you prove, that the amp is bad?

I'm considering buying the R115SW, but these amp issues kind of concern me. In the worst case, I will repair it myself.
Because based on research it's a common issue. When bass got too loud it would turn off and no longer power on.

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No offense to Klipsch, but unless you get them on a good sale, you can do better from HSU, SVS or Rythmik.

Amp issues do seem to be the biggest problem with subwoofers in general, though.

If you want to get a Klipsch, as you can see, their customer service is good if you ever need it. I don't know how bad the amp issue really is, it's just something I've seen commented on many times on AVS.
I agree with this. I bought the R115sw because I got it for 400 usd brand new. It was an impossible deal to match and a no brainer

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It's not an issue any longer. There was a running change made during production to fix the issue. I have 2 units from the first batch ever produced and still going strong. That's over 4 years of use for me, so even older units aren't guaranteed to have an issue.


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What WAS the issue? I have 2 115 amp plates in a closet that came out of 1 of mine. Klipsch told me I did not have to return them (I found it quite telling that they didn't even expect return to fix or to prove I needed new ones.) Can they be put back in service?
I once read a post that eluded to trying to move a 15 inch cone, but I know the 12's had problems too. No one ever says exactly what happened. Even when I contacted support I asked if the new amps were better and the response was "I just started here I don't know anything."


I will testify that when these subs work the sound is amazing, no distortion, clean, tight bass. They do NOT just fill the room with boom or bottom that would take away from the rest of the music, critical to me.

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Are the RP-8000F(s) for $480 a good deal right now? Or can I expect them to get even lower in the next 4 or 5 months?
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Are the RP-8000F(s) for $480 a good deal right now? Or can I expect them to get even lower in the next 4 or 5 months?
That's probably as good an advertised deal as you're going to get. You might be able to get even better deals on ebay with open box specials from authorized dealers, I haven't checked. But, I doubt you'll do much better with a Klipsch sanctioned sale until they get clearanced in a year or so.
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What WAS the issue? I have 2 115 amp plates in a closet that came out of 1 of mine. Klipsch told me I did not have to return them (I found it quite telling that they didn't even expect return to fix or to prove I needed new ones.) Can they be put back in service?
I once read a post that eluded to trying to move a 15 inch cone, but I know the 12's had problems too. No one ever says exactly what happened. Even when I contacted support I asked if the new amps were better and the response was "I just started here I don't know anything."


I will testify that when these subs work the sound is amazing, no distortion, clean, tight bass. They do NOT just fill the room with boom or bottom that would take away from the rest of the music, critical to me.
I don't know the exact reason, but a component was overheating (increased rating) and a layout change was made to eliminate the issue. The failure rate wasn't as high as the internet would have you believe. It is my understanding units are not serviceable at the component level, a replacement amp is necessary.

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Are the RP-8000F(s) for $480 a good deal right now? Or can I expect them to get even lower in the next 4 or 5 months?
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That's probably as good an advertised deal as you're going to get. You might be able to get even better deals on ebay with open box specials from authorized dealers, I haven't checked. But, I doubt you'll do much better with a Klipsch sanctioned sale until they get clearanced in a year or so.
drh3b is correct...$479 is a Klipsch authorized sanctioned price available through any and all “authorized” dealers at this time. If you see a lower advertised price at this time, it’s likely an unauthorized retailer. If history is an indication and as product approaches it’s replacement cycle, you’ll begin to see pricing for the 8” version in the $300-$350 range. I was able to purchase the RP-8000’s earlier predecessor, the RF-82 II’s, for $250 new from an authorized dealer several years ago. However, to get pricing this aggressive requires waiting until inventories are nearly depleted. So, the answer to you question is it depends...it depends on sales performance, replacement timing, and how long you’re willing to wait...but yes $479 is a good price...for now.

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I don't know the exact reason, but a component was overheating (increased rating) and a layout change was made to eliminate the issue. The failure rate wasn't as high as the internet would have you believe. It is my understanding units are not serviceable at the component level, a replacement amp is necessary.

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So would a fan help? That is if you could figure out where to put one, or maybe heat sinks or like computer processor coolers on the outside of the plate?

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So would a fan help? That is if you could figure out where to put one, or maybe heat sinks or like computer processor coolers on the outside of the plate?
It would not do anything on the outside, and on the inside would just blow the already warm air around.


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Thank you

I just want to thank everyone that helped me out throughout this month repositioning ATMOS stuff and with general Klipsch advice. End result:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater...s_subs_advice/

https://imgur.com/gallery/ENay15j

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Cool man. Enjoy it! I do have a suggestion though, get some cloth in that room somehow! More rugs, window treatments.. anything you can do will help I promise.

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don't those woofers look beautiful? I thought I'd post a new pic for your guys after I upgraded to my final size 125" and they are sound transparent so these beauties have to be hidden behind the screen. First pic is with the screen half up to see those beauties. I know use this "theater" for all my future gaming!





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don't those woofers look beautiful? I thought I'd post a new pic for your guys after I upgraded to my final size 125" and they are sound transparent so these beauties have to be hidden behind the screen. First pic is with the screen half up to see those beauties. I know use this "theater" for all my future gaming!





My wife won't let me leave the grills off my RP-8000F's and RP-504C because the cone color doesn't match the (brushed nickel) hardware on the entertainment center. I feel your pain.
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I don't even get to see my front speakers at all because there is no room for them on the side. But it's totally worth it for the 125" screen size. And having the center speaker higher and behind the screen definitely helps dialogue placement.
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My wife won't let me leave the grills off my RP-8000F's and RP-504C because the cone color doesn't match the (brushed nickel) hardware on the entertainment center. I feel your pain.
Time to shop for copper colored hardware for the entertainment center!
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They do look really nice. I tend to keep my grills on, as the copper tends to stick out too much to me.
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They do look really nice. I tend to keep my grills on, as the copper tends to stick out too much to me.
LOL!!! I guess this is an example of how we can all enjoy this hobby differently! I'm of the opposite persuasion and happen to like copper porn!
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I just want to thank everyone that helped me out throughout this month repositioning ATMOS stuff and with general Klipsch advice. End result:



https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater...s_subs_advice/



https://imgur.com/gallery/ENay15j



Thank you!

Ohh I am searching for the RZ!
Which one is it? 830? 920?
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Ohh I am searching for the RZ!
Which one is it? 830? 920?
Rz1100

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Hello all,


First time poster in this sub, but Klipsch owner for a couple years now. I very recently purchased the RP-140SAs hoping that I'll finally be able to take advantage of ATMOS now that I have a capable AVR. The next step is placement, and I'm hoping that some of you might be able to shed some light on the best approach for my room.



The main problem is that my ceiling drops down about a foot directly above my setup, and extends out for about 4-5ft. I also sit about 9-10ft away. I think this basically rules out positioning them on top of my front towers like I believe they're intended to do... which leads to my big question - could they sit on top of my subwoofers? I've never actually listened to ATMOS in a home theater setup, so I am not sure what is expected. I am also wondering if hanging them on the wall behind the front towers as "height" channels would be better - although I've read this does not produce true ATMOS sound.



Any guidance or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thank you!


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Side Surrounds - Klipsch RP-160Ms
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It's all about the angle. I suggest using your towers because if you place them on the subs, sounds that "leak" from the main "beam" of sound may hit your ears before the main, reflected sound makes it to your ears, muddling the Atmos effect. The speakers being so low to the ground means that there is more room for more sound to "leak out." Place them on your towers and try to visualize the line that the sound will travel as it comes out of the speakers and then reflects off the ceiling. You want that line to reflect off the ceiling so that it aims at your head at the MLP. Use material under the Atmos speakers to change their angle as necessary so that the reflected line is correctly aimed at you. With your low ceiling, I don't think the effect would be as good if you used them as height speakers, but you might like it.

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It's all about the angle. I suggest using your towers because if you place them on the subs, sounds that "leak" from the main "beam" of sound may hit your ears before the main, reflected sound makes it to your ears, muddling the Atmos effect. The speakers being so low to the ground means that there is more room for more sound to "leak out." Place them on your towers and try to visualize the line that the sound will travel as it comes out of the speakers and then reflects off the ceiling. You want that line to reflect off the ceiling so that it aims at your head at the MLP. Use material under the Atmos speakers to change their angle as necessary so that the reflected line is correctly aimed at you. With your low ceiling, I don't think the effect would be as good if you used them as height speakers, but you might like it.

Thanks for the info. Part of me is afraid the "up-firing" solution simply will not work in my setup. I suppose it doesn't hurt to try everything. Setting them as height channels is last resort simply because of having to run cable - I'm trying to avoid that if possible.

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Thanks for the info. Part of me is afraid the "up-firing" solution simply will not work in my setup. I suppose it doesn't hurt to try everything. Setting them as height channels is last resort simply because of having to run cable - I'm trying to avoid that if possible.
The extra effort is usually rewarded with the better/best solution. In any case, I'm sure you're aware of the order of performance level..(1) in/on ceiling (2) height and (3) up-firing. In any case, experimentation is always key to determine what works best in your environment and to understand what your ears are telling you. Anyway, no need to permanently wire anything until you've determine the best possible solution for you.

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First time poster in this sub, but Klipsch owner for a couple years now. I very recently purchased the RP-140SAs hoping that I'll finally be able to take advantage of ATMOS now that I have a capable AVR. The next step is placement, and I'm hoping that some of you might be able to shed some light on the best approach for my room.



The main problem is that my ceiling drops down about a foot directly above my setup, and extends out for about 4-5ft. I also sit about 9-10ft away. I think this basically rules out positioning them on top of my front towers like I believe they're intended to do... which leads to my big question - could they sit on top of my subwoofers? I've never actually listened to ATMOS in a home theater setup, so I am not sure what is expected. I am also wondering if hanging them on the wall behind the front towers as "height" channels would be better - although I've read this does not produce true ATMOS sound.



Any guidance or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thank you!


P.S. pic attached shows my old AVR.
I have the newer versions of those speakers. I'm using them as height/elevation speakers. Upfiring is ok if you have flat ceilings, I'd say go elevation/heights. Just position them using like a ladder or something to get how they'd sound at the spot you place them at. A few good(new)movies to check out are Mission Impossible Fallout, Venom and spiderman. V you can also download the atmos demo.
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RP-8000F Amplification

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Just purchased a set of RP-8000f in piano black finish. Currently using a Marantz SR8012 to drive them. Sound is excellent.

I have several mono blocks in storage all rated at 250W at 8 ohms and close to 500W at 4 ohms. I thought the continuous RMS rating was 250W on these, but I had it confused with the RF-7III. These are 150/600.

Is anyone out there powering their RP-8000 with high current amplification?

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Hello everyone,

Just purchased a set of RP-8000f in piano black finish. Currently using a Marantz SR8012 to drive them. Sound is excellent.

I have several mono blocks in storage all rated at 250W at 8 ohms and close to 500W at 4 ohms. I thought the continuous RMS rating was 250W on these, but I had it confused with the RF-7III. These are 150/600.

Is anyone out there powering their RP-8000 with high current amplification?

Thank you,
I power the predecessor, the RP-280f with a 275 wpc amp @ 8 ohms, crossed at 80 Hz, with two subwoofers. I have yet to blow them up, even though I've tried. You're going to be playing well into pain before damage, I think. I'm about 8 feet away, so YMMV of course.
If you don't have subwoofers, it may be more of an issue.
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You will be fine unless you are pushing those amps to near their max potential. Due to thier effiency, these speakers don't take a lot to play really loud.


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Hello everyone,

Just purchased a set of RP-8000f in piano black finish. Currently using a Marantz SR8012 to drive them. Sound is excellent.

I have several mono blocks in storage all rated at 250W at 8 ohms and close to 500W at 4 ohms. I thought the continuous RMS rating was 250W on these, but I had it confused with the RF-7III. These are 150/600.

Is anyone out there powering their RP-8000 with high current amplification?

Thank you,
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Hey guys and girls...

A while back I purchased four RP-500SA speakers to use as front and rear heights for atmos effects.

My original plan was to mount the rear heights into the top of a soffit that runs along the ceiling at the back of the room, but unfortunately I am now discovering that I probably cannot do that because I don't have the clearance inside the soffit to get any mounting hardware firmly attached. If I mount beneath the soffit then they are too low to produce overhead effects.

I would like to salvage the use of the rear 500SA speakers if possible, but all I could really do is ceiling mount them in front of the soffit.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a good quality ceiling mount that would work with the shape of the 500SA?
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Hello everyone,

Just purchased a set of RP-8000f in piano black finish. Currently using a Marantz SR8012 to drive them. Sound is excellent.

I have several mono blocks in storage all rated at 250W at 8 ohms and close to 500W at 4 ohms. I thought the continuous RMS rating was 250W on these, but I had it confused with the RF-7III. These are 150/600.

Is anyone out there powering their RP-8000 with high current amplification?

Thank you,
I'm in agreement with both @drh3b and @m3incorp ...you'll be fine. IMO, you've made an excellent choice with the 8012 driving the excellent and very efficient 8000F's!

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I'm in agreement with both @drh3b and @m3incorp ...you'll be fine. IMO, you've made an excellent choice with the 8012 driving the excellent and very efficient 8000F's!
Just curious...What would happen if someone accidently pushes the volume to max? I had this happen to me at an audition and have heard it happens all of the time at parties.
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