Originally Posted by clw22580
Hey guys - I'm going to be purchasing my 1st home theater setup (coming from tv only sound) and have decided to go with a Klipsch 5.1 system
I'm trying to decide between the RP-8000-F/RP-504C and RF-7-iii/RC-64-iii for my left/center/right (the rest of the setup will be RP-502S; SPL 150 and either a Marantz 5013 or 8012 depending on which LCR I go with).
Obviously the cost of the iiis is much higher than the RPs but I'm curious as to the thought of whether the increased price is worth the performance upgrade (also curious as to what those upgrades are besides just being larger speakers)?
Any thoughts/comments will be greatly appreciated!
Here is the real big question you have to answer, are you going to listen to music in puristic stereo/front surround WITHOUT EQ and system calibration?
If the answer is "yes" then buy the RF-7-III/RC-64-III setup.
If you are going to calibrate everything and listen in "calibrated mode" with surround modes or even "calibrated stereo" than it is a waste of money. I say that because once everything is "calibrated" any "individual sound" of a given set of speakers is essentially wiped out.
Now, do the RP-8000 and the RF-7-III sound different with a pure, unmodified stereo signal, the answer is a definite YES. Once calibrated (with a subwoofer) you cannot tell the difference between them AT ALL.
That is the sad reality of modern receiver calibration systems, as they all calibrate to "reference flat" and you have speakers of a sufficient capability. And both the RP-8000 and RF-7-III are capable speakers.
I have a Ref IV RF-82/RC-62 setup as well as a Ref IV RF-62/RC-52 setup and once everything is calibrated with a subwoofer you cannot tell the difference between the two, even at high volume levels. Even with the subwoofer not in the calibration, the RF-82 setup only goes a bit deeper into subwoofer territory as the only real difference.
I listen to stereo music in "pure direct" mode on my receiver (Pioneer Elite VSX-LX503) and that removes all EQ, standing wave correction and time alignment and I can enjoy the speakers the way they were produced. In that mode there is a BIG difference in sound between both the RF-82 and RF-62 setups, with the RF-82s just sounding much fuller with deeper extension.
The RP-8000 are close to the RF-82s and are plenty for a "calibrated" setup with a subwoofer.
Now if I could find a set of original RF-7s (Reference IV gen ones) I would find it worthwhile to upgrade to them myself from my RF-82s only because I listen to stereo music quite a bit. I would have to also find a RC-64 gen 1 as well to have everything timber matched (same tweeters) at that time as well, so I am really not even looking as it would be cost prohibitive since every one else in the house enjoys the theater just fine with the RF-82/RC-62 setup, and I really enjoy it for music as well.