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Klipsch Atmos enabled speaker question -

Is it better to get the right angle to use them as upward-firing speakers, or is it better to place them high on my front wall, aiming downward toward MLP?
Use elevation speakers on the walls (Left/Right sides or Front/Back walls). Mines are on the side walls. I have 2 rows and the listening position is between them. Sounds great! When I had 1 pair put them slightly ahead of the listening position and was good as well.

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Are those the same Klipsch I’m thinking of getting?


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Klipsch 500SA
18 Length
13.5 width
Ceiling 93 inches high

Ceiling is flat in MOST places. It's a bonus room above our garage, so ceiling slopes down at edges, but not where the Atmos speakers would be.

Right now, I have Elac Atmos speakers that are on top of my Klipsch 8000's, and I am not hearing an Atmos effect. So. Was thinking of getting all Klipsch and putting them higher on wall, but want to know if that's a correct way of doing it ... Thanks!
When you get a chance please post a couple pics of the room.

Do you need to ask/seek anyone’s permission/approval to make any changes to the room/furniture and/or speakers layout?.

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When you get a chance please post a couple pics of the room.



Do you need to ask/seek anyone’s permission/approval to make any changes to the room/furniture and/or speakers layout?.


No, I own the house


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Meant WAF or GAF. Wife acceptance/approval factor or girlfriend

Just so we are clear. You can freely hang Elvis neon art paintings with flashing lights if you want on the walls in the room. NO one will voice an objection
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Are those the same Klipsch I’m thinking of getting?
It's the previous model the RP-140SA. 4" woofer & 50W/200W while the 500SA 5.25" & 75W/300W.
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Hello. I would like to see if I can get some feedback from you all on something. I currently have a pair of RP-8000F for fronts, an RP-504c as center and pair of RP-5000F as surrounds. I can pick up a pair of RP-6000F for a good price so was wondering if I should swap them for the RP-5000F and either move those to the rear, though I would actually have to move them each time they are used due to the layout, or sell them. I know it is overkill and not needed, but the price is good and I figure I can get $500 for the RP-5000F anyway. My only concern then is the center only has 5 1/4 inch woofers and the surrounds would be 6 1/2. Would that even be an issue?

I use these a lot for multi channel music listening which is the only reason I am even thinking about it.

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Hello. I would like to see if I can get some feedback from you all on something. I currently have a pair of RP-8000F for fronts, an RP-504c as center and pair of RP-5000F as surrounds. I can pick up a pair of RP-6000F for a good price so was wondering if I should swap them for the RP-5000F and either move those to the rear, though I would actually have to move them each time they are used due to the layout, or sell them. I know it is overkill and not needed, but the price is good and I figure I can get $500 for the RP-5000F anyway. My only concern then is the center only has 5 1/4 inch woofers and the surrounds would be 6 1/2. Would that even be an issue?

I use these a lot for multi channel music listening which is the only reason I am even thinking about it.
Assuming you are crossing at 80 Hz, I don't think you will notice much difference unless you play loudly. As you go up the food chain, the mid bass and lower will have have more headroom. I would probably save the RP5000f for the rear, and put them in place whenever watching a movie that would use them. I have RP-280f(predecessor to the RP-8000f) front and side, and RP-260f for rear, overkill, but I'll never overload my speakers!
As far as miss matching woofers, no. They are all designed to the the same sound signature. As long as you are playing within their limits they should all sound pretty much the same crossed at 80 Hz.
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Got some ATMOS speakers to install!!!


Congratulations! I am running up front and rear height speakers with the RP – 500SA. They are good speakers but I am thinking of going straight in the ceiling with Klipch’s new reference premier in ceiling PRO-180RPC. No pivoting tweeter it looks like but oh well.


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5.1.2 to 7.1.2/4

Hello Everyone,
This question may have been answered before, but there are some many pages on this thread, I just could not find it.
I am currently running 5.1.2 with:

RP-280FA FL/FR
RP-450CA
RP-250S SL/SR
R-115SW

With a Yamaha RX-A3080.

Wife wants me to go 7.1.2 (she actually wants to see more speakers), but I have little room behind the sofa, like maybe 3' at the most. If going to 7.1.2, I would rather try to get a 7.1.4.

Could I use another pair of RP-250S (or RP-502S) as rear surround speakers and use two ceiling mounted speakers for the .4?
Also, what is the minimum distance the surrounds need to be to the MLP?

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Wife wants me to go 7.1.2 (she actually wants to see more speakers), but I have little room behind the sofa, like maybe 3' at the most. If going to 7.1.2, I would rather try to get a 7.1.4.

Could I use another pair of RP-250S (or RP-502S) as rear surround speakers and use two ceiling mounted speakers for the .4?
Also, what is the minimum distance the surrounds need to be to the MLP?
I think you know, but for 7.1.4 you will need an extrernal amp for the last 2 speakers. 3 feet can be enough if you really want, but it's unnecessary (usually need for big rooms and/or two seating rows). I'm afraid you won't feel more. I have around 4-5 behind, but I am not missing the rear surrounds, stopped at 5.2.4. with 4 "on-wall mounted" Atmos speakers.
And yes, for the rear Height/Presence speaker you can use wall mounted speakers like RP-140SA/500SA or other speakers on/in ceiling.
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It's the previous model the RP-140SA. 4" woofer & 50W/200W while the 500SA 5.25" & 75W/300W.


I swear this is my last question:

My problem is that I currently have a pair of ELAC Atmos enabled upfiring speakers, and I am not getting the effect up front.

So I was thinking of getting Klipsch speakers as height speakers up front that I would mount on top of front wall, and use the ELACS as Atmos reflecting speakers in BACK, since that ceiling is a bit lower ... Would that be odd??
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So I was thinking of getting Klipsch speakers as height speakers up front that I would mount on top of front wall, and use the ELACS as Atmos reflecting speakers in BACK, since that ceiling is a bit lower ... Would that be odd??
Maybe the ELACs are weak for your system (I don't know), that's why you can't hear, but It should work. Maybe the ceiling not enough high/not reflecting well, maybe the front speaker not enough high or the seating position is too far...
The idea is good, but I suggest try it first with the ELAC speakers. I hope can be wall mounted, so put them - where you want to put the new Klipsch speakers - on the front wall, just under at the wall & ceiling contact point. ReCalibrate with the settings in the menu Front Presence >>> Height/Overhead speakers and check.

First I had an Onkyo SKH-410 DolbyAtmosEnabledSpeaker, I heard them and wasn't bad, but was so weak to makes a good impact.
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Klipsch speaker owner since 2016 (bed layer), 2018 (height layer), and subs purchased from 2016 until the 4th purchased in 2019. Attached are some pics of the living room. You can see I experimented with speaker toe-in as well as sub placement. I’m likely going to settle on the two subwoofers co-located next to each front main speaker without toe-in. I have an electrician quoting me to hide the height wires in-wall as well as the bed layer surrounds and to create two 20amp circuits. I’m still not sure if I want the wires pulled for my current setup as is with front/rear heights or if I want to have them pull the wires for an in-ceiling (top middle/top rear) install and move my sofa forward to have the speakers slightly behind me overhead per Dolby’s guidelines. My dad and I finished installing his in-ceiling speakers and when I was watching Mad Max I was able to hear the top channels consistently whereas with my front and rear height configuration it blends in with the rest of the speakers. I am deciding on some blackout curtains and will be taking down the blinds. Also, looking into projectors.

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Hey guys. I just bought a pair of RP250S. Bad luck, the rubber tweeter horn fell down as soon I unpacked it. Is it supposed to be just taped with two sided adhesive tape as it was mine?
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You guys that are looking at wall mounting the RP-500SA or the like take a look at using the "outdoor" AW line of speakers. I'm using AW-650s for my Atmos layer and they work great for it. Sound matched up with my base layer nicely and since they're bracket mounted you can angle them properly at your seating positions. I have a sloped ceiling and they made it easy.

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I guess I expect people to mention his cement floor in the basement. They get sooooo much traffic and eat in there, he didn't want to install carpet. Just makes for more reflections due to hard surfaces.


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I have 3.0 ch system currently with r51m's for front left/right and a 404c for center. Looking into getting atmos. I have a couple limitations for my setup: can't have a subwoofer because I have a tenant in an apartment in my house without soundproofing. CAN do rear surround but rather not run wires under my couch so for now i want a 3.0.2 ch system for atmos content if that would make a reasonably acceptable movie watching experience. I also can't mount speakers on the wall or ceiling so need upward firing. Was looking at either the reference r-41sa or the reference premier rp 500sa. Would the extra $100 cost make a noticeable improvement getting the rp's? Does the extra power make a difference for upward firing atmos speakers?

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I have 3.0 ch system currently with r51m's for front left/right and a 404c for center. Looking into getting atmos. I have a couple limitations for my setup: can't have a subwoofer because I have a tenant in an apartment in my house without soundproofing.
The absence of a subwoofer means you'll be missing an important aspect of what true home theater offers...typically the physical impact of action blockbuster movies. Keep in mind that a subwoofer need not necessarily be disturbing to a neighbor as its performance can be adjusted from mild to moderate to thunderous to accommodate the situation. As appropriate, you can periodically invite your tenant over for a movie or use your subwoofer at times when your tenant is out of the home.

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so for now i want a 3.0.2 ch system for atmos content if that would make a reasonably acceptable movie watching experience. I also can't mount speakers on the wall or ceiling so need upward firing. Was looking at either the reference r-41sa or the reference premier rp 500sa. Would the extra $100 cost make a noticeable improvement getting the rp's? Does the extra power make a difference for upward firing atmos speakers?

my avr is also the costco yamaha tsr 7850
Dolby Atmos Enabled Speakers (upfiring) were designed to accommodate situations with limitations and/or constraints. It's also recognized/acknowledged that the effectiveness of "upfiring" speakers is highly dependent of a room's physical properties, acoustic properties, and most importantly proper orientation and positioning relative to the MLP. Many have been able to obtain successful results while others have less successful results. Unfortunately, because of the many variables, it is difficult to predict the outcome. The most prudent course of action would be to experiment first with inexpensive speakers to establish a "baseline" performance and continue until you've attained an acceptable result.
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Was looking at either the reference r-41sa or the reference premier rp 500sa. Would the extra $100 cost make a noticeable improvement getting the rp's? Does the extra power make a difference for upward firing atmos speakers?

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You should buy a subwoofer and turn down the volume, because you are really missing important effects.

The upfiring was great for me, much more better than without. The 500SA is bigger, stonger and better, but for only Atmos, maybe you won't hear/feel the difference and you don't need the extra power (large room or loud usage). You can buy if you can, but the 41sa can be enough. I have 4xRP-140SA in a medium room and they are really good.
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Help please. A few months ago I jumped on deals for the Elac Uni-Fi L/R and center to eventually go into a 5.1.2 atmos set up. Now, when these Klipsch 625 went on sale I got them because they have the built in atmos modules and were on a huge sale. Can I use the Elac L/R as my rears or will this screw up the timbre i.e. Klipsch L, Uni-fi C, Klipsch R? Or should I buy the Klipsch 41m or 51m to put in the rears and get a Klipsch center so everything matches? Or...should I get the Elac Atmos modules and get some Elac B6 rears to go with my uni-fi L/C/R? Basically, which is the one I should be going with in my man cave. I can always just use the 625s as a 2.1.2 set up in another room if Elac is the way to go in the man cave. BTW I can't set up the system as we're in the process of moving but I have used the Elac's and loved them before boxing them up and am currently using the 625 as towers for my record player but can't say I've put them through the paces. Thanks in advance
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Help please. A few months ago I jumped on deals for the Elac Uni-Fi L/R and center to eventually go into a 5.1.2 atmos set up. Now, when these Klipsch 625 went on sale I got them because they have the built in atmos modules and were on a huge sale. Can I use the Elac L/R as my rears or will this screw up the timbre i.e. Klipsch L, Uni-fi C, Klipsch R? Or should I buy the Klipsch 41m or 51m to put in the rears and get a Klipsch center so everything matches? Or...should I get the Elac Atmos modules and get some Elac B6 rears to go with my uni-fi L/C/R? Basically, which is the one I should be going with in my man cave. I can always just use the 625s as a 2.1.2 set up in another room if Elac is the way to go in the man cave. BTW I can't set up the system as we're in the process of moving but I have used the Elac's and loved them before boxing them up and am currently using the 625 as towers for my record player but can't say I've put them through the paces. Thanks in advance
It looks like the speakers you bought are new R series speakers, so they should match with other new R series. I know older Klipsch R were bright, don't know if the newer ones are. You can try it before spending more money, but I suspect the Klipsch will be brighter, but I don't know that for a fact, or if it will be enough to be noticeable. Your ears are less sensitive to sounds behind you, so it's possible that you won't notice any difference.
If you just plan to watch TV/Movies, it probably won't be an issue, if you plan on listening to multi channel music, it might become an issue.
Might as well try it before spending more money is basically what I'm saying, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work for you.
Some people think the front 3 have to match, others don't, so that's also worth trying before spending more money. I think it's more important to match the front 3 than surrounds myself.
Especially if you have a receiver with Audyssey or something like that, it will tend to try to match the other speakers to the L/R, so that might be enough to smooth out any glaring differences.

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It looks like the speakers you bought are new R series speakers, so they should match with other new R series. I know older Klipsch R were bright, don't know if the newer ones are. You can try it before spending more money, but I suspect the Klipsch will be brighter, but I don't know that for a fact, or if it will be enough to be noticeable. Your ears are less sensitive to sounds behind you, so it's possible that you won't notice any difference.
If you just plan to watch TV/Movies, it probably won't be an issue, if you plan on listening to multi channel music, it might become an issue.
Might as well try it before spending more money is basically what I'm saying, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work for you.
Some people think the front 3 have to match, others don't, so that's also worth trying before spending more money. I think it's more important to match the front 3 than surrounds myself.
Especially if you have a receiver with Audyssey or something like that, it will tend to try to match the other speakers to the L/R, so that might be enough to smooth out any glaring differences.
Thanks. I've got the Sony STR-DH790 and it does have calibration software. My main issue is if I use the R625fa as my L/R so I can get atmos, would a) the Elac Uni-Fi C5 end up causing timbre issues b) would the Elac Uni-Fi B5 be overkill as rear surrounds. I feel like I might just be better off getting a Klipsch center (which one?) and some Klipsch R41m for rear surrounds so everything matches. Or, get Elac atmos modules and some cheap surrounds like the Polk T15 and return/sell/move the R625fa into a different room.
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Thanks. I've got the Sony STR-DH790 and it does have calibration software. My main issue is if I use the R625fa as my L/R so I can get atmos, would a) the Elac Uni-Fi C5 end up causing timbre issues b) would the Elac Uni-Fi B5 be overkill as rear surrounds. I feel like I might just be better off getting a Klipsch center (which one?) and some Klipsch R41m for rear surrounds so everything matches. Or, get Elac atmos modules and some cheap surrounds like the Polk T15 and return/sell/move the R625fa into a different room.
If you like the sound of the Klipsch, I would stick with them, they will be able to play much more loudly than the Unifi bookshelves with the same power.
Get this for the center:
https://www.klipsch.com/products/r-52c-center-speaker
Not this:
It didn't review particular well because of the small woofers in the opinion of the reviewer, anyway. Plus, it costs more.
https://www.klipsch.com/products/r-34c-center-speaker

Ultimately, you need to be happy with what you have. I wouldn't want mis matched speakers, because it would be in the back of my head every time something sounded "wrong" that it might be mis matched speakers. People have different levels of sensitivity to the differences. Like I said, you are not nearly as sensitive to sounds behind you as in front, so it's possible you won't notice the difference if you put the unifi as surrounds. You won't know unless you try it. That being said, I'd ultimately want everything to be matchy matchy myself. My system is 100% Klipsch RP, although I'm going to use a different brand that I had laying around for Atmos since it's just effects.

I guess my point is you could try to mix them, and see how you like it. If you don't like it, make which ever speakers you like best the ones you buy matching speakers for. If you don't have a preference in sound, I'd go Klipsch because they will have more dynamic range and be able to play noticeably louder cleanly than the Elacs with the same power.

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My system is 100% Klipsch RP, although I'm going to use a different brand that I had laying around for Atmos since it's just effects.
Do not underestimate Atmos' channels.I did that. I tried old Technics surrounds, Jamo's Bookshelves, RP140SA's. I am just happy now I have RP250S' as my Atmos' Day and Night.
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